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The Ratings Thread (Part 14)
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Glenn A
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“I thougt Hollyoaks was starting to turn the corner, cleary I was wrong.”

I wonder if this will be moved to E4 on a lower budget as almost everyone has digital now and it could become their flagship show now BB has gone. I reckon this would be the best move to save the show, which I think still has a future but not on a main network.
rzt
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“ITV have done everything to ensure IAC didn't do a BB and turn into an expensive flop, by BB's ninth series, the writing was on the wall that the show was dying, but IAC in its ninth run still does very well. OK we're not likely to see 15 million viewers again, as more people have digital now and the novelty of the show has worn off, but 8-9 million is still very good considering the celeb reality genre has been in a steady decline since the loathsome Love Island was cancelled.”

Talking of Love Island, a couple of months ago 'ITV Insider' on Twitter randomly asked people if they thought Love Island was any good and if it should come back. And yesterday one of its contestants (Bianca Gascoigne) said that she'd talked to a couple of ITV people and there was talk about it returning.

It's probably not exactly 'Love Island' but it does look like ITV are lining up some kind of new reality show (maybe the rumoured one with Ant & Dec) for next summer to grab the ex-BB audience.
Charnham
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“I wonder if this will be moved to E4 on a lower budget as almost everyone has digital now and it could become their flagship show now BB has gone. I reckon this would be the best move to save the show, which I think still has a future but not on a main network.”

so Hollyoaks is to E4 what Neighbours is to ELEVEN?

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v1...leven_logo.png

notice anything fimilar?
Charnham
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Talking of Love Island, a couple of months ago 'ITV Insider' on Twitter randomly asked people if they thought Love Island was any good and if it should come back. And yesterday one of its contestants (Bianca Gascoigne) said that she'd talked to a couple of ITV people and there was talk about it returning.”

excuse me whilst I go buy some symtax, and look up the adderss of ITV HQ.
D.M.N.
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Talking of Love Island, a couple of months ago 'ITV Insider' on Twitter randomly asked people if they thought Love Island was any good and if it should come back. And yesterday one of its contestants (Bianca Gascoigne) said that she'd talked to a couple of ITV people and there was talk about it returning.

It's probably not exactly 'Love Island' but it does look like ITV are lining up some kind of new reality show (maybe the rumoured one with Ant & Dec) for next summer to grab the ex-BB audience.”

Dear god, no, no and NO! Please... no.
MandyBud
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Talking of Love Island, a couple of months ago 'ITV Insider' on Twitter randomly asked people if they thought Love Island was any good and if it should come back. And yesterday one of its contestants (Bianca Gascoigne) said that she'd talked to a couple of ITV people and there was talk about it returning.

It's probably not exactly 'Love Island' but it does look like ITV are lining up some kind of new reality show (maybe the rumoured one with Ant & Dec) for next summer to grab the ex-BB audience.”

LMFAO! Classic, if true. Oh ITV, I do love thee. *shudder* what next the return of Celebrity Wrestling?
rzt
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Dear god, no, no and NO! Please... no. ”

Originally Posted by MandyBud:
“LMFAO! Classic, if true. Oh ITV, I do love thee. *shudder* what next the return of Celebrity Wrestling?”

Lol. I'm pretty sure it won't be 'Love Island' (under that name) as its ratings were terrible for its second series and a massive PR disaster. But it seems like ITV are looking to have a similar type of show from recent reports/rumours - i.e. people in a foreign place living together, not necessarily 'Love Island', could even be that rumoured 'I'm a Civilian' show.
Dancc
04-12-2010
Bad night for Hollyoaks but I suspect Home and Away won't have done much better. H&A is rating below par as well at the moment, going from a solid 1.0-1.1m a night for the 6pm showing this time last year, to just 0.8-0.9m now. A rather big year-on-year drop, and the viewers don't seem to be hurrying back despite improved storylines as the investigation into Penn's disappearance continues. Neighbours was down as well earlier in the year but it recovered.

I think it just proves given the slide in Australia as well what a failure the show's change in direction has been this year. Ray Meagher might not like it, but the viewers have spoken and middle-of-the-road relationship based drama isn't doing it for them. The endless teen romances just bore me to tears. We need the nutjobs back in Summer Bay! I thought we were back on track with Penn, but the writers appear to have killed him off.
Evie-Grace
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by Score:
“Thanks rzt. Dickinson does really well in that slot, and it makes the decision to recommission The Michael Ball Show even more confusing as he didn't rate anywhere near as well (share-wise) as Real Deal or even Daily Cooks Challenge do in that slot.”

Difficult time slot. Perhaps the actual viewing figures gave a better impression. I imagine that most of Michael's target audience would be working and recording the show, or doing the school run once the kids had gone back to school. I wonder how many viewer were tuning in over the week.
derek500
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by garyessex:
“I wonder how many people watch EastEnders in HD considering its only upscaled at the moment.”

A few hundred thousand watch Emmerdale which isn't HD, so I'm sure many BBC One viewers have made BBC One HD their default BBC One channel.
Glenn A
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Bad night for Hollyoaks but I suspect Home and Away won't have done much better. H&A is rating below par as well at the moment, going from a solid 1.0-1.1m a night for the 6pm showing this time last year, to just 0.8-0.9m now. A rather big year-on-year drop, and the viewers don't seem to be hurrying back despite improved storylines as the investigation into Penn's disappearance continues. Neighbours was down as well earlier in the year but it recovered.

I think it just proves given the slide in Australia as well what a failure the show's change in direction has been this year. Ray Meagher might not like it, but the viewers have spoken and middle-of-the-road relationship based drama isn't doing it for them. The endless teen romances just bore me to tears. We need the nutjobs back in Summer Bay! I thought we were back on track with Penn, but the writers appear to have killed him off.”

Home and Away always had 3 million viewers less than Neighbours at the height of Aussie soap mania, so its lower ratings don't surprise me. However, there are weeks on BARB's Channel 5 Top 30 where Home and Away struggles to reach 29 or 30 and I do wonder if it's tanking permanently. I only know one person who watches it now.
However, back in the day it was better than Neighbours as the plots were a bit darker and there was an Australian Mr Bronson figure called Fisher.
garyessex
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“Home and Away always had 3 million viewers less than Neighbours at the height of Aussie soap mania, so its lower ratings don't surprise me. However, there are weeks on BARB's Channel 5 Top 30 where Home and Away struggles to reach 29 or 30 and I do wonder if it's tanking permanently. I only know one person who watches it now.
However, back in the day it was better than Neighbours as the plots were a bit darker and there was an Australian Mr Bronson figure called Fisher.”

It doesnt help that the 6pm H&A airing is actually the 3rd showing

Fiver 6.30 500k
Five 2.15pm 400k
Five 6pm 1.0

Nearly half the audience watch the show before the 6pm showing im sure at its "five" peak 6pm was the new episode...especially before Fiver(Five Life) existed.
Paul Millar
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Including HD:

ITV1
20:30 - I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out Of Here!: 10.17m (38.0%)
* 15-minute peak: 10.94m (39.9%) @ 9pm (inc HD)

ITV2
22:00 - I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out Of Here Now: 1.21m (5.8%)
* series high”

Please source in future: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s100/...raws-102m.html
Cent
04-12-2010
Love Island could work...

I really don't see it happening. Now that News at Ten is back and ITV don't really spend any of their programming budget after 9.59pm, expect on a Saturday, I don't see where it would go.

It never used the Corrie lead-in to any advantage in previous summers.

Although in saying that, ITV does have naff all to show all summer, so maybe its a cheap way to fill those primetime slots and win a young demo. It will make them money for not much effort...

I think what is certainly true is that Peter Fincham realises ITV's future is in event TV - whether that is I'm a Celebrity, X Factor or Downton Abbey. He needs to find more of it and particularly cheap things that get solid audiences mid-week.
dan2008
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by MandyBud:
“Gotta get the excuses in early I suppose. Just kidding, I genuinely think people will be surprised next week.”

For people that predcit Lower then 15million either don't have a clue or JUst playing the ratings down IMO

I'll be very surpised if Corrie isn't over 15million and that 17m that i keep going on about looks even more likely

so Far this weekend

There's been quite a few adverts of ITV1
Every newspaper and TV mag have run quite a lot of coverage on corrie's 50th (some Front page stuff)

Radio1 even promoted it and then there's when they show it throughout the x factor/IAC final.

I think the weather will also benefit the LIVE episode
and i don't buy the whole 'People are xmas shopping' line

I know for a fact Come next week (or when ever the officials are out)corrie will be the most watched show of 2010 (it could be overtaken by the XF though?)
Chris1964
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by dan2008:
“For people that predcit Lower then 15million either don't have a clue or JUst playing the ratings down IMO

I'll be very surpised if Corrie isn't over 15million and that 17m that i keep going on about looks even more likely

so Far this weekend

There's been quite a few adverts of ITV1
Every newspaper and TV mag have run quite a lot of coverage on corrie's 50th (some Front page stuff)

Radio1 even promoted it and then there's when they show it throughout the x factor/IAC final.

I think the weather will also benefit the LIVE episode
and i don't buy the whole 'People are xmas shopping' line

I know for a fact Come next week (or when ever the officials are out)corrie will be the most watched show of 2010 (it could be overtaken by the XF though?)”

While all this may be true, it says something that Eastenders is the front cover Buzz magazine on the eve of C/S biggest ever week.
Coronation Street deserves to hit big in its anniversary week, but the live episode ratings, like EE, are in part down to the live element and comparing the two is part show merit, but also part lottery regarding how big the pool of casual viewers is. Whether C/S gets a million more or less isnt really saying anything.

The only things standing against XF are the shows length and the fact that Wagner has gone. The BBC are effectively showing a test card in opposition-had they shown SCD 7.30 to 8.00 on the Sunday there would have been little chance of anything stratospheric.
dan2008
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“While all this may be true, it says something that Eastenders is the front cover Buzz magazine on the eve of C/S biggest ever week.
Coronation Street deserves to hit big in its anniversary week, but the live episode ratings, like EE, are in part down to the live element and comparing the two is part show merit, but also part lottery regarding how big the pool of casual viewers is. Whether C/S gets a million more or less isnt really saying anything.

The only things standing against XF are the shows length and the fact that Wagner has gone. The BBC are effectively showing a test card in opposition-had they shown SCD 7.30 to 8.00 on the Sunday there would have been little chance of anything stratospheric.”

Yes i notice that Ryan and Janine from EastEnders has the front cover of BUZZ but then i don't think that magazine is that good anyway and infact i miss the old TV guide from the sun which was actually better then the ones you pay for
ToadieTheLawman
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by garyessex:
“It doesnt help that the 6pm H&A airing is actually the 3rd showing

Fiver 6.30 500k
Five 2.15pm 400k
Five 6pm 1.0

Nearly half the audience watch the show before the 6pm showing im sure at its "five" peak 6pm was the new episode...especially before Fiver(Five Life) existed.”

so overall the show gets around 2 million a day that's not bad. Didn't Neighbours peak 1.2 this week at 6pm? Perhaps the show needs to show trailers to increase its viewership at 6pm
iaindb
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Talking of Love Island, a couple of months ago 'ITV Insider' on Twitter randomly asked people if they thought Love Island was any good and if it should come back. And yesterday one of its contestants (Bianca Gascoigne) said that she'd talked to a couple of ITV people and there was talk about it returning.

It's probably not exactly 'Love Island' but it does look like ITV are lining up some kind of new reality show (maybe the rumoured one with Ant & Dec) for next summer to grab the ex-BB audience.”

Dear ITV1

Please, please, please, please, please, please, please bring back Love Island and strip it in the schedules every night at 9pm for three weeks.

Yours sincerely,
Danny Cohen, Controller BBC1
D.M.N.
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by dan2008:
“There's been quite a few adverts of ITV1”

Except they never shown any adverts about it during The X Factor, instead focusing on the I'm a Celebrity Final and Kerry Katona's ITV2 show.

Numpties.

X Factor finished at 21:22, Attentional will remove the 21:20 to 21:25 block. I'm a Celebrity started at 21:24.
Last edited by D.M.N. : 04-12-2010 at 21:26
Dancc
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Except they never shown any adverts about it during The X Factor, instead focusing on the I'm a Celebrity Final and Kerry Katona's ITV2 show.”

Ah well, there's always tomorrow night for that.

There's been coverage in the tabloids every day this week. I can't remember 'Enders getting written about quite so much, although 50 is obviously a bigger deal than 25.
dan2008
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Except they never shown any adverts about it during The X Factor, instead focusing on the I'm a Celebrity Final and Kerry Katona's ITV2 show.

Numpties.

X Factor finished at 21:22, Attentional will remove the 21:20 to 21:25 block. I'm a Celebrity started at 21:24.”

Yeah i noticed! I had to sit through much of the x factor whille eating dinner
I was actually surpised but i still think tommorow they will show quite a lot of adverts seeing as Sundays XF rates higher does it not?
I fully expect them to show some through IAC final though
dan2008
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Ah well, there's always tomorrow night for that.

There's been coverage in the tabloids every day this week. I can't remember 'Enders getting written about quite so much, although 50 is obviously a bigger deal than 25.”

Yeah they had nowhere near this kind of press for their 25th
It's like corrie is the only TV show on the planet
Brekkie
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“But the BBC would schedule two half hour episodes of EastEnders instead of an hour long edition. The first half hour episode would be at 7.00pm when the X-Mas factor started. The second would be at 8.30 after Strictly which would have been watched instead of X-Factor as they had already been watching BBC1!”

Of course we had the benefit of hindsight - but somebody has to blink first, and ITV1 could have release their schedule at 2.29pm!


Re: Hollyoaks - for a Friday episode 960,000 without C4+1 isn't an absolute disaster - will probably be 1.1-1.2m with C4+1, and earlier in the week it was at around the 1.5m mark, whilst E4 showing have gone back to comfortably over 500,000 most nights. The revamp might not be boosting the ratings as quick as some people would like - but when you put it in the context of C4's drama output this autumn only This is England performed consistently better.


P.S. In other news according to Sky (sec 3.4) from Feb 1 2011 Sky HD viewers will see HD channels swap with the SD counterparts in the EPG, though there will be some exceptions (BBC/ITV unlikely to switch due to regional issues).
garyessex
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by ToadieTheLawman:
“so overall the show gets around 2 million a day that's not bad. Didn't Neighbours peak 1.2 this week at 6pm? Perhaps the show needs to show trailers to increase its viewership at 6pm”

As far as im aware

1345 800,000
1730 1,300,000
1900 200,000

I just think Neighbours is a more popular show then H&A but if Neighbours was first chance on Fiver i think both the 1.45 and 5.30 would be down to around H&A's figures
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