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What was Jenny's problem with Kayla?
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lotty27
23-11-2010
Originally Posted by autumn:
“My point entirely. We haven't actually seen Kayla been lazy, we only have the word of the two older women, who may well be irked by Kayla and her bikinis.”

Eh? Oh so all older women are jealous of pretty younger ones? Oh, OK, they probably are a bit because they want a body like that too (and I'm 45 by the way and jealous hell, in a nice, non-bitchy way - you flaunt it girl!)

I honestly think Jenny was more upset by the way Kayla asked her, well she didn't actually ask did she, more told her what she was going to do. If she'd only said 'Jenny can you put the plates out please while I do this?' we might not have seen such an OTT reaction. She might still have grumbled a bit but not so badly.
Rikki65
23-11-2010
A case of 'how dare the little American bimbo tell me what to do'. in other words 'jealous of youth and good looks',,,maybe?!
cappucine
23-11-2010
Man did this scene take me back to when my friends mum was mid-menopause, the slightest thing would set her straight off!

But in my opinion, Kayla is simply doing her job of being a model, and I heard the bikinis she's modelling are from her own collection (in all good department stores etc etc), unlike comic Jenny, who has decided to give the "comedy" a rest it seems while she is in there
lady killigrew
23-11-2010
Jenny is a grumpy 'old woman' !

Self declared,
Georgiecats
23-11-2010
It did seem to come out of the blue so we don't know what's happened here unless Kayla is particularly lazy.

I don't mind Kayla but not really sure who she is (yes I know we're told she's a Playboy model) but she seems a nice enough girl.

I like Jenny too though she's a great celebrity camper.
duncann
23-11-2010
What we saw was Kayla, who does very little and had to be asked herself to help prepare food, ordering Jenny publicly and in a patronising way, to do a task collecting the plates. She didn't ask her as much as pick on her. Jenny said she was 50, meaning, I assume, don't talk to me as if I'm a child.

Jenny is older, wiser and more famous in the UK for 25 years than Kayla who is practically unheard of, so she would not expecting to be ordered around by someone young enough to be her daughter. She's also a feminist and holds little regard for what Kayla does. I expect she felt hurt at being spoken to like that and in the intensity of the camp (which I think IACGMOOH is nothing like as good as BB at getting across) it was too much for her and rather than confront her she went off to lose steam privately, which was the right thing to do.
summertime09
23-11-2010
Originally Posted by ~V~:
“From what I could see, Kayla has been incredibly lazy and contributed very little towards the running of the camp.

When she got a little bit of a job the power appeared to go to her head and she decided that Jenny was lower down the pecking order so she would patronise her.

I kind of agree with Jenny and think this one incident was the culmination of many.

Also, did nobody else notice how Kayla suddenly became very vocal about the meal as she feels she was an integral part of it.

Up to now I had no opinion of her but feel she's a bit of a madam after tonight.

I do think maybe Jenny over-reacted a touch but that could be a hormonal thing.”

Big tough Jenny has managed to keep her big trap shut for days concerning Gillian, she surely got brave to tackle Kayla!!! We havent seen quite a few of them doing many chores, maybe because the numbers in camp have dwindled Kayla feels more comfortable to contribute!! she dosent know any of them at least the rest would be somewhat familiar with one or two others, IF Jenny had been big enough to voice an opinion to Gillian i would maybe have a little more respect for her!!! but NO pick on the weakest.
Satanel
23-11-2010
I just laughed. I proper love Jenny.
lotty27
24-11-2010
Recorded the ITV2 programme to whizz through and apparently Jenny and to a slightly lesser extent Britt have been moaning about Kayla being lazy. Britt saying that Kayla's of an age where she's probably still used to her mum doing everything for her, lol! But Jenny said that was no excuse etc etc etc. Then Britt said she wasn't going to light any of the lamps etc and see what Kayla did

So it looks like it's been brewing for a bit!!
Miranda123
24-11-2010
Originally Posted by ~V~:
“From what I could see, Kayla has been incredibly lazy and contributed very little towards the running of the camp.

When she got a little bit of a job the power appeared to go to her head and she decided that Jenny was lower down the pecking order so she would patronise her.

I kind of agree with Jenny and think this one incident was the culmination of many.

Also, did nobody else notice how Kayla suddenly became very vocal about the meal as she feels she was an integral part of it.

Up to now I had no opinion of her but feel she's a bit of a madam after tonight.

I do think maybe Jenny over-reacted a touch but that could be a hormonal thing.”

I thought Kayla going on about her role in 'cooking' the meal was quite endearing, its obvious she's never had to do anything like chop veg before and I thought it was quite sweet the way she was so proud of herself. I dont thin kshe meant any offence saying to Jenny, 'I have a job for you' think it was just her way of playing the role in her new 'cook' status. Very sweet
autumn
24-11-2010
Originally Posted by Miranda123:
“I thought Kayla going on about her role in 'cooking' the meal was quite endearing, its obvious she's never had to do anything like chop veg before and I thought it was quite sweet the way she was so proud of herself. I dont thin kshe meant any offence saying to Jenny, 'I have a job for you' think it was just her way of playing the role in her new 'cook' status. Very sweet”

Jenny won't think so. We know now what she really thinks about Kayla, despite defending her when Linford disagreed with Kayla's choice of career. (By the way, how confused is Linford, disagreeing with Kayla's nude modelling, yet ogling her in a bikini). I like Kayla, I don't think she was being offensive to Jenny. I think Jenny used Kayla's request as a stick to beat her. I can imagine that deep down Jenny has problems with Kayla's 'presentation'.
Dreamer27
24-11-2010
Originally Posted by Miranda123:
“I thought Kayla going on about her role in 'cooking' the meal was quite endearing, its obvious she's never had to do anything like chop veg before and I thought it was quite sweet the way she was so proud of herself. I dont thin kshe meant any offence saying to Jenny, 'I have a job for you' think it was just her way of playing the role in her new 'cook' status. Very sweet”

All of this! Dom mentioned the other day she cooked but hadn't got the chance to so maybe tonight was her night. Offence was taken but Kayla hasn't shown any sign of being anything but sweet so think she was completely unaware of the way Jenny took it.
dodgygeeza
24-11-2010
Moody menopausal moment, basically. Kayla did sound a little bit condescending but Jenny totally over-reacted.
TheGoan
24-11-2010
I think Kayla just said it in a light-hearted way, but Jenny took it in the wrong way. Just a misunderstanding. I don't think Kayla would ever order people around. And she is 22, yes a lot younger than Jenny but still an adult.
SillyBillyGoat
24-11-2010
It was an excuse for Jenny to get snobbish over Kayla's career.
Salv*
24-11-2010
I didn't feel Kayla said it in a serious way though, i immediately thought it would sort of a joke and a bit serious too, she didn't mean anything by it/
lynwood3
24-11-2010
Pretty air-head model orders grumpy middle-aged comedienne to do menial task.......... gets reaction.
Don't know what's to analyse.
Gneiss
24-11-2010
Originally Posted by dodgygeeza:
“Kayla did sound a little bit condescending but Jenny totally over-reacted.”

Agreed...

Originally Posted by Yobaba**:
“Jenny seems to have some kind of personal issue with kayla after her little rant when she'd stormed off about her 'career'. It seemed way OTT.”

She was totally out of order there, who the hell is she to judge the worthiness of someone else's career?

I'm really starting to take a dislike to Jenny firstly with all the faux empathy and now that....
Gneiss
24-11-2010
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“I didn't feel Kayla said it in a serious way though, i immediately thought it would sort of a joke and a bit serious too, she didn't mean anything by it/”

Having worked with enough of them I think it was a bit of an Americanism TBH, and it can be a bit irritating at times....
glasshalffull
24-11-2010
We've only got to see a tiny fraction of each 24 hours and very little of everyone except Gillian.

IF the editing reflects activity accurately all I've seen Kayla do is get backrubs from Linford, change into bikini's and Vogue...so it's possible she has been lazy in contributing to general tasks around camp.

So I can well understand when there were only six of them to do things why anyone would get narked about feeling they were being given "orders" by a person did jack until circumstances forced them to.
billio
24-11-2010
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“I didn't feel Kayla said it in a serious way though, i immediately thought it would sort of a joke and a bit serious too, she didn't mean anything by it/”

Agree ... And dislike Jenny's judgemental attitude.

Surely a feminist should support a woman's right to earn an honest living however she chooses.
devilsadvo
24-11-2010
kayla came across patronising l would say , jenny didnt want to make a big deal so went away to let off steam. wise descion, jenny has older daughters herself so knows how to handle them. l think jenny is a good mixer ( l mean sociable)
pixieboots
24-11-2010
Jenny did overreact imo she should have laughed it off.
I imagine it would gall any 50 yr old to have a 22 yr old speak to you like you're staff, its nothing to do with jealousy, its about people skills or Kayla's lack of them.
xx~KC~xx
24-11-2010
Originally Posted by cappucine:
“Man did this scene take me back to when my friends mum was mid-menopause, the slightest thing would set her straight off!

But in my opinion, Kayla is simply doing her job of being a model, and I heard the bikinis she's modelling are from her own collection (in all good department stores etc etc), unlike comic Jenny, who has decided to give the "comedy" a rest it seems while she is in there ”

I think she's been resting the comedy for quite a few years now
robbies_gal
24-11-2010
i dont think she meant anything by it she even said i'll tell u later so wot she asked her to get some plates
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