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Gillian and State of Mind as being Reported
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muddipaws
24-11-2010
Ok, lets have a look at this, she has played everyone like a fiddle with the fainting and extraordinary exhibition of phobia to everyone we have seen that for ourselves. The camp have not really seen that played out becuase of course they cannot see the Trials they can only go by her word.

The trial that would have shown her for her true colours (Live Trial) she fainted again on cue because she knew she would have been found out. She also as we know lied about the digger trial. I do think at somepoint Dom and Shaun and Britt had sussed it before the Live Trial and only then did she confirm their suspicions.

The immunity last night where again she cheated and had a massive strop going to jail was her totally playing up for the camera and to shout out "who is in control now" was totally correct, she is controlling the whole thing. She knows EXACTLY what she is doing

The Trial last night with Gillian and Dom was again a good indicater, she kept insinuating she could not use the digger Ant & Dec Confirmed this was not the case and she opted not to do it, Dom was not at all suprised. To also then during the task state she had never had her head under water, makes me question how then did she practically drown last year which she clearly stated in a previous water task.

After last nights task, she was clearly heard to say she cant leave as she wont get paid which is why she is still there. Now the only other big thing that is looming is the first elimination and she is one of six not immune. So what does she do "hear voices and state she is pregnant" if reports are to be believed. Therefore is she plays it right again, she will be signed off for "medical reasons" get paid, go see he friends in Oz for "recoperation" get home and write a book about "overcoming phobias"

This woman is very, very clever and on occasions her mask has slipped (watch her talking to Stacy last night when she was happy to offload to stacy how much she loves her, then stacy said everyone was in the same boat, that nasty flippant remark comes out of Gillians mouth).

Gillian will turn this around, without a doubt, as the victim who overcame adversity, its all been pre-planned
chloeb
24-11-2010
agreed..great post. Lets hope she's first out
Sparky64
24-11-2010
I haven't watched much of this series, i really cannot do with Gillian what excuse can i come up with next McKeith.. Why don't the programme makers remove her on the groundsa of her "mental" state?
What exactly is she getting paid for? She has done nothing in there at all..
Abbasolutely 40
24-11-2010
By the way she " loves Stacey more than any one in the world ""
Bet your kids were chuffed to hear that .The woman is a liar , a cheat and a fake with a personality disorder of some discription .My opinion is she has some form of narcisistic traits .
tvsaddo
24-11-2010
Better still don't give her any more TV coverage keep her in under the radar and don't give her any magazine deals or interviews when she comes out. See who's in control then
Ellef
24-11-2010
I agree that her phobias and fainting aren't real by any medical definition of either term, but I'm beginning to think Gillian herself believes them to be real. If she was behaving more or less normally in camp and just fainting on cue at trials I'd say she was putting it on, but she'd have to be a terrific actress to keep up the atrocious demeanour 24/7 as she appears to be doing.

I think we're seeing Gillian's real personality - she's someone who has learned very early in life how to get attention and I bet this behaviour goes back decades.
contradiction
24-11-2010
Originally Posted by Ellef:
“but she'd have to be a terrific actress to keep up the atrocious demeanour 24/7 as she appears to be doing.”

Well, Britt did say in the Bush Telegraph that Gillian was a better actress than her!
MrIncredible
24-11-2010
Originally Posted by contradiction:
“Well, Britt did say in the Bush Telegraph that Gillian was a better actress than her!”

Most people are though.

But seriously, I dont think Gillian is acting, I do honestly think she is this awful in real life.

On her turd in a box channel 4 show she was always absolutely awful, and that was edited in her favour!
PeterWD
24-11-2010
Originally Posted by Ellef:
“I agree that her phobias and fainting aren't real by any medical definition of either term, but I'm beginning to think Gillian herself believes them to be real. If she was behaving more or less normally in camp and just fainting on cue at trials I'd say she was putting it on, but she'd have to be a terrific actress to keep up the atrocious demeanour 24/7 as she appears to be doing.”

Years of practice perhaps?
Ellef
24-11-2010
Originally Posted by PeterWD:
“Years of practice perhaps?”

Exactly. I suspect this is how she is all the time and probably has been since she was a kid. I bet she was one of those children that holds their breath and turns blue to get their own way.
Fringo
24-11-2010
Originally Posted by MrIncredible:
“Most people are though.

But seriously, I dont think Gillian is acting, I do honestly think she is this awful in real life.

On her turd in a box channel 4 show she was always absolutely awful, and that was edited in her favour!”

I don't know if you saw her on the celeb X Factor but she was a nightmare on that too.......

And the flirting! Shudder.....
allie4
24-11-2010
Originally Posted by Ellef:
“I agree that her phobias and fainting aren't real by any medical definition of either term, but I'm beginning to think Gillian herself believes them to be real. If she was behaving more or less normally in camp and just fainting on cue at trials I'd say she was putting it on, but she'd have to be a terrific actress to keep up the atrocious demeanour 24/7 as she appears to be doing.

I think we're seeing Gillian's real personality - she's someone who has learned very early in life how to get attention and I bet this behaviour goes back decades.”

Interesting you saying that - I have a 'friend' who I'm 99% sure is NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder) - who lies all the time. It took me years to suss that for the most part, she has convinced herself that this foundation of lies she has lived with all her life, is true! I don't know if GM believes she's actually fainting (but so obviously isn't!) or whether she is just putting it on. But a GOOD actress???? NO!
MrIncredible
24-11-2010
Originally Posted by Fringo:
“I don't know if you saw her on the celeb X Factor but she was a nightmare on that too.......

And the flirting! Shudder.....”

I think Id somehow managed to forget that.

Sadly I have now remembered.

For those fortunate enough not to have seen it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhnffJrYITQ
SMartBones
24-11-2010
the producers of the program will be in a lot more control of things than we and Gillian thinks they are.

There IS a massive amount of cameras in and around camp, Microphones picking up every last word. The program makers will have psychologists watching everything to make sure nobody is "cracking up".

We get to see a tiny % of the days filming and get to see the highlights of Gillian’s antics. There is no way we or anyone else as part of the general viewing public can make an accurate diagnosis of her mental health.

Going by what we have seen and how the production team reacts to her antics, I don’t believe she has really fainted. I don’t believe she has the phobias she says she has..

If now she is saying she is hearing voices, I honestly believe she is TRYING to be removed from the show so she will still get her full fee... I really hope she is not voted out first, now she hasn’t got to do tasks any more ( I can’t see the camp voting her to do any more) keep her in as long as possible so if she wants to meet up with her relatives it will have to be on her own time and her own pocket...

She has got to be one of the biggest narcissists that have graced our tv in recent years.
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dekaf
24-11-2010
Originally Posted by muddipaws:
“Ok, lets have a look at this, she has played everyone like a fiddle with the fainting and extraordinary exhibition of phobia to everyone we have seen that for ourselves. The camp have not really seen that played out becuase of course they cannot see the Trials they can only go by her word.

The trial that would have shown her for her true colours (Live Trial) she fainted again on cue because she knew she would have been found out. She also as we know lied about the digger trial. I do think at somepoint Dom and Shaun and Britt had sussed it before the Live Trial and only then did she confirm their suspicions.

The immunity last night where again she cheated and had a massive strop going to jail was her totally playing up for the camera and to shout out "who is in control now" was totally correct, she is controlling the whole thing. She knows EXACTLY what she is doing

The Trial last night with Gillian and Dom was again a good indicater, she kept insinuating she could not use the digger Ant & Dec Confirmed this was not the case and she opted not to do it, Dom was not at all suprised. To also then during the task state she had never had her head under water, makes me question how then did she practically drown last year which she clearly stated in a previous water task.

After last nights task, she was clearly heard to say she cant leave as she wont get paid which is why she is still there. Now the only other big thing that is looming is the first elimination and she is one of six not immune. So what does she do "hear voices and state she is pregnant" if reports are to be believed. Therefore is she plays it right again, she will be signed off for "medical reasons" get paid, go see he friends in Oz for "recoperation" get home and write a book about "overcoming phobias"

This woman is very, very clever and on occasions her mask has slipped (watch her talking to Stacy last night when she was happy to offload to stacy how much she loves her, then stacy said everyone was in the same boat, that nasty flippant remark comes out of Gillians mouth).

Gillian will turn this around, without a doubt, as the victim who overcame adversity, its all been pre-planned”


What an excellent post. Doesn't it make you absolutely sick!! I can honestly say, hand on heart, even though I've never met the nasty little witch, NOBODY has ever made me feel such contempt before.
sparklysheila
24-11-2010
Originally Posted by MrIncredible:
“I think Id somehow managed to forget that.

Sadly I have now remembered.

For those fortunate enough not to have seen it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhnffJrYITQ”

Me too!

Loved Mrs O - You are what you eat and that was salmonella
mikedw
24-11-2010
The woman's an idiot in my opinion and is now claiming she's pregnant http://bit.ly/dXvCdy although I can't see how and poignantly who?
muddipaws
24-11-2010
Its is more than likely she has done this for years and more than likely those who know her are used to it and deal with it in their own way. But because its "the norm" for her behaviour then when it becomes a "useful tool" to achieve her main goal (which in this case is to get paid, get a holiday and write a self help book) its an ok thing.

When people are not used to this sort of behaviour it is grossly exaggerated to get through to people how desperate she is because those in the camp and viewers would not be used to it.

To her it is normal, I do hope she is got rid of from the first vote, but I think she may get off the rest of the trials for "medical reasons" and then when she does get booted basically the show has confirmed by abstaining her form the trials she has a medical "phobia" problem and therefore justifies her actions and therefore we are all wrong and she is right?
muddipaws
24-11-2010
Originally Posted by SMartBones:
“the producers of the program will be in a lot more control of things than we and Gillian thinks they are.

There IS a massive amount of cameras in and around camp, Microphones picking up every last word. The program makers will have psychologists watching everything to make sure nobody is "cracking up".

We get to see a tiny % of the days filming and get to see the highlights of Gillian’s antics. There is no way we or anyone else as part of the general viewing public can make an accurate diagnosis of her mental health.

Going by what we have seen and how the production team reacts to her antics, I don’t believe she has really fainted. I don’t believe she has the phobias she says she has..

If now she is saying she is hearing voices, I honestly believe she is TRYING to be removed from the show so she will still get her full fee... I really hope she is not voted out first, now she hasn’t got to do tasks any more ( I can’t see the camp voting her to do any more) keep her in as long as possible so if she wants to meet up with her relatives it will have to be on her own time and her own pocket...

She has got to be one of the biggest narcissists that have graced our tv in recent years.
..”

But this is how clever she has been

1) if she walks no fee
2) if she gets signed off she gets fee and freebie holiday to friends and misses out on the first vote (time to write book)
3) If she dont get voted off for whatever reason and the peeps in the camp keep her there its a victory to her as she may get into the final which is "adversity over phobia" hence the book

She is on a win, win here I am afraid

Although no amount of money can buy respect and that is what it has cost her
cezzy
24-11-2010
The claims of hearing voices/pregnancy etc are probably her trying to joke, problem is she lies so often that you don't know when to believe her? I choose to consider everything she says is fabricated then I'm generally safe.

Not sure if she has a nacasistic or histrionic personality disorder? They're very similar and hopefully the show's psychologist could help us out with a diagnosis. If not, Fainty McFake will write a book naming her personality disorder and how she lives with it. Another book will come out discussing her phobias; a third will discuss her fear of diggers and their multiple levers; a forth, fifth ..... You get my drift.:yawn:

Let's not forget that all disbelievers will be sued by her husband for deformation of her character which we all have wrong. She's really a very sweet honest lady allegedly.
SMartBones
24-11-2010
Originally Posted by muddipaws:
“But this is how clever she has been

1) if she walks no fee
2) if she gets signed off she gets fee and freebie holiday to friends and misses out on the first vote (time to write book)
3) If she dont get voted off for whatever reason and the peeps in the camp keep her there its a victory to her as she may get into the final which is "adversity over phobia" hence the book

She is on a win, win here I am afraid

Although no amount of money can buy respect and that is what it has cost her”

for point two, that why the producers will not sign her off... keep her in until she is VOTED off and cut down the time she gets to frolic with her friends and relatives at their expense in the hotel. At least they will milk her for every penny she screwed out of them... and who the hell would buy her book? In a unheard of way, the DS forums are nearly in agreement that she is a nasty bitch...

and for point three... let the rest of the celebs earn the fees they get by having to put up with the biggest creepy crawly in the jungle... and as for point two; who will buy said book?

as you say, it has cost her her self respect and she will get a second slap in the face when she finds it hard to find a publisher for her book, and a third slap in the face when she eventually does find one and it flops....

she will end up like Jeremy beadle... the person everyone loves to hate...
fredster
24-11-2010
Originally Posted by muddipaws:
“Ok, lets have a look at this, she has played everyone like a fiddle with the fainting and extraordinary exhibition of phobia to everyone we have seen that for ourselves. The camp have not really seen that played out becuase of course they cannot see the Trials they can only go by her word.

The trial that would have shown her for her true colours (Live Trial) she fainted again on cue because she knew she would have been found out. She also as we know lied about the digger trial. I do think at somepoint Dom and Shaun and Britt had sussed it before the Live Trial and only then did she confirm their suspicions.

The immunity last night where again she cheated and had a massive strop going to jail was her totally playing up for the camera and to shout out "who is in control now" was totally correct, she is controlling the whole thing. She knows EXACTLY what she is doing

The Trial last night with Gillian and Dom was again a good indicater, she kept insinuating she could not use the digger Ant & Dec Confirmed this was not the case and she opted not to do it, Dom was not at all suprised. To also then during the task state she had never had her head under water, makes me question how then did she practically drown last year which she clearly stated in a previous water task.

After last nights task, she was clearly heard to say she cant leave as she wont get paid which is why she is still there. Now the only other big thing that is looming is the first elimination and she is one of six not immune. So what does she do "hear voices and state she is pregnant" if reports are to be believed. Therefore is she plays it right again, she will be signed off for "medical reasons" get paid, go see he friends in Oz for "recoperation" get home and write a book about "overcoming phobias"

This woman is very, very clever and on occasions her mask has slipped (watch her talking to Stacy last night when she was happy to offload to stacy how much she loves her, then stacy said everyone was in the same boat, that nasty flippant remark comes out of Gillians mouth).

Gillian will turn this around, without a doubt, as the victim who overcame adversity, its all been pre-planned”

She may well do that but, a large number of people in the UK have seen what happened and her awful behaciour.
susie-4964
24-11-2010
Originally Posted by mikedw:
“The woman's an idiot in my opinion and is now claiming she's pregnant http://bit.ly/dXvCdy although I can't see how and poignantly who?”

This is what puzzles me. Her husband's a multi-millionaire, I believe. He could have married any woman he wanted, but he chose a wizened little Scottish lady with a whiny voice, attention-seeking behaviour and a horrible personality.

Just goes to show, money doesn't buy you everything if you make the wrong choices.
soapaddictDS
24-11-2010
Originally Posted by susie-4964:
“This is what puzzles me. Her husband's a multi-millionaire, I believe. He could have married any woman he wanted, but he chose a wizened little Scottish lady with a whiny voice, attention-seeking behaviour and a horrible personality.

Just goes to show, money doesn't buy you everything if you make the wrong choices. ”

What is the significance of being Scottish here?

I've dipped in and out of this series. Not a fan of Gillian but i'm not fully convinced she is faking her faints?! I think she is a troubled woman tbh.
Fringo
24-11-2010
Originally Posted by soapaddictDS:
“What is the significance of being Scottish here?

I've dipped in and out of this series. Not a fan of Gillian but i'm not fully convinced she is faking her faints?! I think she is a troubled woman tbh. ”

Oh she's definitely faking.

I think the reason she faked the live one was that she knew she was going to have to at least try as she was being observed by her campmates. She started telling Dom early on that she felt faint - to set up the scenari - and then duly did with great aplomb. When you listen to her afterwards saying that she still thought she might be able to do the trial you can smell the BS through the telly.

The woman is one helluva diva. She's nasty, manipulative and totally and utterly self-serving.

I do believe she's genuinely scared of creepy crawlies but she's not phobic - otherwise how does she sleep at night?
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