I cant see the fuss. He tasted them liked them, ordered them. What was he supposed to do, wait for the other team to show him theirs and see if he liked them better? That is what mice do, sampling all the food around. Before you buy a dress do you go all over the west end and try them all out. Reminds me about the matches, his mother sent him to buy some and said make sure they work. He came back saying they did he had tried them all out. Then another thing, maybe he didnt like their change of mind of 9 to 1. People like decisiveness. Not to be messed about. Then again they were selling him something English, the other team were selling something German which he wasnt short of.
Appointment
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He had two meetings set up. If you knew you had a meeting later with another company, why would you invalidate that whole meeting by doing a deal with the first lot? Why wouldn't you wait until you've been able to compare the products and pricing? There was no rush.
And allowing the other meeting to go ahead when he already knew he wouldn't buy was very unprofessional. He should have cancelled obviously.
And allowing the other meeting to go ahead when he already knew he wouldn't buy was very unprofessional. He should have cancelled obviously.
The point is they turned down an opportunity to see them first thing, a mistake and they made several and deserved to lose.
The guy at the hotel had a product presented which he liked and he went with it, nothing in 'business' terms wrong with that.
It's a game show at the end of the day, I cringe when they say we are from 'appolo' or whatever as they will be doing some completely different business adventure the next week. It's not 'real' business it's role play tasks.
The guy at the hotel had a product presented which he liked and he went with it, nothing in 'business' terms wrong with that.
It's a game show at the end of the day, I cringe when they say we are from 'appolo' or whatever as they will be doing some completely different business adventure the next week. It's not 'real' business it's role play tasks.
Of course it's not impossible that the customer himself decided to "punish" Jamie & Christopher for not accepting his first appointment offer - he was initially very specific about 9 o'clock, which they turned down (for no reason I could see) before asking for a 1 o'clock meeting.
When the other team called and immediately accepted the 9 o'clock slot, I could easily imagine the customer thinking, "Ah, I'll teach that other team a lesson..."
Just a thought!
When the other team called and immediately accepted the 9 o'clock slot, I could easily imagine the customer thinking, "Ah, I'll teach that other team a lesson..."
Just a thought!
To seventeen
What is seventeen in German again! Better ask Herr Baggs. I did also say that he may not have liked being messed about. It is also possible that he wanted to see them but then didnt like the look of them. He could have bought twice. It wouldnt have broken the bank and he would have been able to sell them. Also since they told him it was all the 'rage' in the UK, maybe he was thinking of his English clients of whom he must have plenty. Also maybe he didnt have a contact phone to cancel the appointment, so if they came, better to tell them personally than not let them in. Also (so many) he may not have realised at first that they were selling German 'stuff' and only realised when they came to him,. Maybe if Joanna was pitching she could have got him to buy some.
What is seventeen in German again! Better ask Herr Baggs. I did also say that he may not have liked being messed about. It is also possible that he wanted to see them but then didnt like the look of them. He could have bought twice. It wouldnt have broken the bank and he would have been able to sell them. Also since they told him it was all the 'rage' in the UK, maybe he was thinking of his English clients of whom he must have plenty. Also maybe he didnt have a contact phone to cancel the appointment, so if they came, better to tell them personally than not let them in. Also (so many) he may not have realised at first that they were selling German 'stuff' and only realised when they came to him,. Maybe if Joanna was pitching she could have got him to buy some.
Originally Posted by ESPIONdansant:
“A few bags of crisps? Plus they were a 'prestige' brand. If they were good then make a decision. It was pennies in the scheme of things. Or should I say pfennige?”
“A few bags of crisps? Plus they were a 'prestige' brand. If they were good then make a decision. It was pennies in the scheme of things. Or should I say pfennige?”
As Laura would say "The World has changed", I think it's now (Euro) cents.
Originally Posted by notary:
“To seventeen
What is seventeen in German again!”
“To seventeen
What is seventeen in German again!”
Siebzehn, if I remember my CSE German correctly (quickly had to double check)
CSE, that dates me.
And, Stuart, it's Zwolf (12), not Zwelf (which is what I thought he said).
In alliterative terms and for euphony it's preferable to contrast pennies with pfennige rather than cents. Not monetarily accurate but an improvement in literary terms.
Another flaw in this, no buyer in his right mind would order that amount of stock as a trial run, over six months?
Complete set up
Complete set up
I feel privileged to have been educated in the good old days. Just try using a calculator to do sums with £sd. Ha! We didn't even have calculators. I had a slide rule when I was 11 and very proud of it I was too. Still not much use with £sd though. Mental arithmetic rules.
Oh, I remember shillings, sixpences, thrupenny bits and farthings (just).
I had 7 years of L S D (the monetary kind) but by the time I got to doing maths with money, decimalisation had occurred.
I didn't have a slide rule but I did have a paperback set of Log & trigonometric tables.
Then the Texas TI30 calculator appeared and having a laugh with numbers like 71077345 (Shelloil) etc
I had 7 years of L S D (the monetary kind) but by the time I got to doing maths with money, decimalisation had occurred.
I didn't have a slide rule but I did have a paperback set of Log & trigonometric tables.
Then the Texas TI30 calculator appeared and having a laugh with numbers like 71077345 (Shelloil) etc
Originally Posted by ESPIONdansant:
“In alliterative terms and for euphony it's preferable to contrast pennies with pfennige rather than cents. Not monetarily accurate but an improvement in literary terms.”
“In alliterative terms and for euphony it's preferable to contrast pennies with pfennige rather than cents. Not monetarily accurate but an improvement in literary terms.”
Euro'll back in the day. If that makes cents?
Originally Posted by nanscombe:
“And, Stuart, it's Zwolf (12), not Zwelf (which is what I thought he said).
”
“And, Stuart, it's Zwolf (12), not Zwelf (which is what I thought he said).
”
Actually, it's "zwölf". The umlauts change the way the "o" is pronounced from a hard "o" to a soft "o", which sounds more like an "er" than any "o" sound in English. Stubags was right with how he pronounced it. What he got wrong was missing out 16. Or was it 17? Can't remember now. One or the other, anyway.
Originally Posted by trollface:
“Actually, it's "zwölf". The umlauts change the way the "o" is pronounced from a hard "o" to a soft "o", which sounds more like an "er" than any "o" sound in English. .”
“Actually, it's "zwölf". The umlauts change the way the "o" is pronounced from a hard "o" to a soft "o", which sounds more like an "er" than any "o" sound in English. .”
zwölf
Just means I can't type umlauts.
Ah, actually it's easier than I thought.
On an iPad just hold down the O key and drag the accent to the option you want.
Zwölf.
Dead easy. Thank's to Mr Jobs' team.
Mind you, after 30 years since I last had to use the word (oops
), I was lucky to remember the spelling, let alone the accent.
On an iPad just hold down the O key and drag the accent to the option you want.
Zwölf.
Dead easy. Thank's to Mr Jobs' team.
Mind you, after 30 years since I last had to use the word (oops
), I was lucky to remember the spelling, let alone the accent.
The man pronouncing that seems to have a harder accent than the people where I used to live in Germany did, but you can still hear the "er" sound.
Originally Posted by notary:
“I cant see the fuss. He tasted them liked them, ordered them. What was he supposed to do, wait for the other team to show him theirs and see if he liked them better? That is what mice do, sampling all the food around. Before you buy a dress do you go all over the west end and try them all out. Reminds me about the matches, his mother sent him to buy some and said make sure they work. He came back saying they did he had tried them all out. Then another thing, maybe he didnt like their change of mind of 9 to 1. People like decisiveness. Not to be messed about. Then again they were selling him something English, the other team were selling something German which he wasnt short of.”
“I cant see the fuss. He tasted them liked them, ordered them. What was he supposed to do, wait for the other team to show him theirs and see if he liked them better? That is what mice do, sampling all the food around. Before you buy a dress do you go all over the west end and try them all out. Reminds me about the matches, his mother sent him to buy some and said make sure they work. He came back saying they did he had tried them all out. Then another thing, maybe he didnt like their change of mind of 9 to 1. People like decisiveness. Not to be messed about. Then again they were selling him something English, the other team were selling something German which he wasnt short of.”
oh dear, YOU are obviously are easily taken in then and always accept the first offer that comes along. If you are buying a dress, to use your analogy, of course you'll shop at different shops until you find the right one and pay the right price. Mug springs to mind.
Originally Posted by trollface:
“The man pronouncing that seems to have a harder accent than the people where I used to live in Germany did, but you can still hear the "er" sound.”
“The man pronouncing that seems to have a harder accent than the people where I used to live in Germany did, but you can still hear the "er" sound.”
Well, that's where you have the advantage. I only have memories of hearing what I was taught, around 30 years ago, by a (presumably) English born German teacher.
To made to measure
"If you are buying a dress, to use your analogy, of course you'll shop at different shops until you find the right one and pay the right price. Mug springs to mind."
If you buy made to measure ones yes. But not off the peg.
"If you are buying a dress, to use your analogy, of course you'll shop at different shops until you find the right one and pay the right price. Mug springs to mind."
If you buy made to measure ones yes. But not off the peg.
Originally Posted by trollface:
“Actually, it's "zwölf". The umlauts change the way the "o" is pronounced from a hard "o" to a soft "o", which sounds more like an "er" than any "o" sound in English. Stubags was right with how he pronounced it. What he got wrong was missing out 16. Or was it 17? Can't remember now. One or the other, anyway.”
“Actually, it's "zwölf". The umlauts change the way the "o" is pronounced from a hard "o" to a soft "o", which sounds more like an "er" than any "o" sound in English. Stubags was right with how he pronounced it. What he got wrong was missing out 16. Or was it 17? Can't remember now. One or the other, anyway.”
It´s pronounced Ssssswulf (the Z becomes a long S in this case).
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