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Aahh, so who else didn't know the German flag featured an eagle?
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parthy
25-11-2010
A few people on here have reacted with shock that Jamie didn't know that. Everywhere I've ever seen the German flag it just features the three blank fields. So, is it really so bad not to know the federal flag features an eagle?
ESPIONdansant
25-11-2010
If you're speculating about embassies and foreign travel then the presence of that particular eagle on that background in that context isn't much of an imaginative leap. Unless you're thick. Like Chris and Jamie.
MrsSpoon
25-11-2010
Many countries have more than one flag.
The German flag we usually see is their national flag with the triple bars minus the (federal) eagle emblem.
apprenticeguru
25-11-2010
I laughed out loud when Jamie made that thick statement. He and the others seem to be building a record for similar thick statements this series.
Joanne yy
25-11-2010
Originally Posted by parthy:
“A few people on here have reacted with shock that Jamie didn't know that. Everywhere I've ever seen the German flag it just features the three blank fields. So, is it really so bad not to know the federal flag features an eagle?”

I didn't know about the e-a-g-l-e on the flag and I have german in-laws
Jepson
25-11-2010
Originally Posted by Joanne yy:
“I didn't know about the e-a-g-l-e on the flag and I have german in-laws ”

Do/did you also have a German husband?
Sherlock_Holmes
25-11-2010
It is true that most German flags do not have the eagle on it, as the eagle is more of an emblem for the country (just like the 3 lions are for England).
parthy
25-11-2010
Originally Posted by apprenticeguru:
“I laughed out loud when Jamie made that thick statement. He and the others seem to be building a record for similar thick statements this series. ”

So, I'm thick then?
parthy
25-11-2010
Originally Posted by ESPIONdansant:
“If you're speculating about embassies and foreign travel then the presence of that particular eagle on that background in that context isn't much of an imaginative leap. Unless you're thick. Like Chris and Jamie.”

I don't understand what you mean. Can you rephrase it?
parthy
25-11-2010
Originally Posted by MrsSpoon:
“Many countries have more than one flag.
The German flag we usually see is their national flag with the triple bars minus the (federal) eagle emblem.”

So surely it's not that big a deal not to know all the forms of the German flag?
ESPIONdansant
25-11-2010
They had been told they were going abroad. They were in the neighbourhood of loads of embassies. They saw a flag with the German colours with the German eagle motif. What other flag could it be? What other flag could it POSSIBLY be?
parthy
25-11-2010
Originally Posted by ESPIONdansant:
“They had been told they were going abroad. They were in the neighbourhood of loads of embassies. They saw a flag with the German colours with the German eagle motif. What other flag could it be? What other flag could it POSSIBLY be?”


I take your point on the colours, but the German eagle thing? I guess this makes me thick but I didn't know of the Germany eagle motif.
ESPIONdansant
25-11-2010
Maybe it's a generational thing. I'm 55 - born 10 years after the war finished - and images of the eagle in war films etc were very common. Perhaps that explains it.

To me that eagle just shrieks Germany as much as a swastika.
parthy
25-11-2010
Originally Posted by ESPIONdansant:
“Maybe it's a generational thing. I'm 55 - born 10 years after the war finished - and images of the eagle in war films etc were very common. Perhaps that explains it.

To me that eagle just shrieks Germany as much as a swastika.”

Yeah, maybe. I'm 26, and not a history buff.
LostFool
25-11-2010
The difference is that the version with eagle represents the Federal German government, the one without represents the country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of...overnment_flag

Some countries just have a different version of their flag which can only be used by government.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governm...overnment_flag

The UK government doesn't have a separate flag but it does have a coat of arms (the lion and unicorn with "Dieu et mon Droit" motto as seen on your passport). The Queen does have her own flag - the Royal Standard.
Ænima
25-11-2010
Originally Posted by parthy:
“I take your point on the colours, but the German eagle thing? I guess this makes me thick but I didn't know of the Germany eagle motif.”

I don't think you're thick at all parthy. I didn't know either.

Trouble is, a lot of the keyboard warriors here just pretend to know stuff so they can appear all high and mighty!

Secretly, they probably saw the flag, didn't know about the variant flag and kept schtum, then quickly googled it to get some information so they could call people who didn't know thick

I can do it too... Did you know the variant Thai flag has an elephant? See, how many do you think would know that without google (I didn't)? I'd think it was intelligent for someone to know other countries flags full stop, let alone all the variant ones. It's hardly something anyone is taught or even expected to know.
Tercet2
25-11-2010
I didn't know that the German Government flag had the old eagle on it either. Though I'd recognise the colours and that single headed eagle. Might wonder when Germany changed their flag though. That must be the only version of that flag flying in the UK, unless they've some other consulates here.

How many people in the UK can recognise the flags of the Baltic, Balkan or East European states though? Like Moldova (only now that I've looked at it!)
apprenticeguru
25-11-2010
Originally Posted by parthy:
“So, I'm thick then?”

Oh no, I wasn't directing my comment at you. It was the more way Jamie said it that made him sound stupid. A bit like his comment about the North.

I guess not everyone knows what the german national emblem is. It's bascally the Federal Eagle, which is based on the Eagle from the old Weimar republic. The Eagle is the traditional national symbol of Germany.
trollface
25-11-2010
Originally Posted by Ænima:
“I'd think it was intelligent for someone to know other countries flags full stop, let alone all the variant ones.”

Just for the sake of being a nit-picking keyboard warrior, that's not being intelligent, it's being knowledgeable.
Ænima
25-11-2010
Originally Posted by trollface:
“Just for the sake of being a nit-picking keyboard warrior, that's not being intelligent, it's being knowledgeable.”

Knowledge opens up new pathways of cognition and as such, is a form of intelligence.
RED_
25-11-2010
Originally Posted by Sherlock_Holmes:
“It is true that most German flags do not have the eagle on it, as the eagle is more of an emblem for the country (just like the 3 lions are for England).”

Good point, i'm sure a lot of people are surprised when they see the 3 lions on the flag, not knowing what it is. People that don't live in this country that is. Can happen to anyone.
trollface
25-11-2010
Originally Posted by Ænima:
“Knowledge opens up new pathways of cognition and as such, is a form of intelligence.”

The application of knowledge is a form of intelligence. Knowledge itself is not. Knowledge only opens up new pathways of cognition if you cogitate on that knowledge.
Ænima
25-11-2010
Originally Posted by trollface:
“The application of knowledge is a form of intelligence. Knowledge itself is not. Knowledge only opens up new pathways of cognition if you cogitate on that knowledge.”

I don't agree, I think it opens up entire new pathways of cognition and memory, that would otherwise have not existed.
Snozzcumber
25-11-2010
Even if you weren't familiar with the icon, surely you'd realise that "a German flag with an eagle on it" flying in front of an embassy probably is a German flag? He probably did, I suppose, it was just the way he said it that made it amusing.

It's not the same as an elephant on a Thai flag, by the way. Germany is a European nation with whom we share a mountain of history. It's completely different.
ESPIONdansant
25-11-2010
It is surprising to me that the eagle (well, that particular graphic design) isn't instantly recognisable as uniquely German. Maybe I've just had to sit through too many WWII films.
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