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Is Stuart Baggs the strongest man left?
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He's won as PM; He speaks a second language; He oozes masculinity. ![]() I rate him over both Chris and Jamie and doesn't he have a better track record? |
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No I still say Chris is the strongest.
Altough he has lost alot, I dont blame the failures on him that much, wellapart from maybe the germinator idea. I dont think he should of been in the boardroom last week, and this week the failure was down to jamie and christpher, he did a good job as PM in both tasks he was PM. Stuart is all say but no balls really, hes always sayign hes the best sales person and has shown many times this is not true, and he only stepped as PM because he had too last week, and he was a poor leader, the team only won because the girls did a good job. |
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No I still say Chris is the strongest.
Altough he has lost alot, I dont blame the failures on him that much, wellapart from maybe the germinator idea. I dont think he should of been in the boardroom last week, and this week the failure was down to jamie and christpher, he did a good job as PM in both tasks he was PM... |
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I think LS prefers Chris BUT much as i want to slap 'the brand', if i had to employ one of them i think it would be him, the others are too immovable and would be difficult to retrain, SB does at least seem like you could do something with him if you had the patience
BUT I would employ Jo, Stella or Liz before any of the boys |
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I don't mind Chris but isn't one of his failings this week that he should have made it his business to know what had gone on with both Jamie and Christopher before the boardroom?
All I saw was Christpher and Jamie agreeing to 9 oclock then changed their minds. In the boardroom the team found out the other team got alot of orders from that company, so yes maybe chris should have made it his business to know, but what I saw that team seem to work well and the other team were moaning (I.E Laura saying something was shit). |
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I don't mind Chris but isn't one of his failings this week that he should have made it his business to know what had gone on with Jamie and Christopher before the boardroom?
This was the week he should have gone. Chris' tactic every week is to point out the short comings of others. Blame everybody else ! |
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I don't think Chris is the strong candidate he appears to be.
This was the week he should have gone. Chris' tactic every week is to point out the short comings of others. Blame everybody else ! but I wouldn't employ him for those reasons alone.
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Stuart's interpersonal skills border on comical and his organisation is terrible, but I do think there is actually something there. He has often been bang on in advance about the faults of things such as the recycled clothing line. And the race car thing last week was actually a good idea - much better than Jamie's skiing thing. He is perhaps just too immature though - if he was on the show in 5 years or so I think he'd be a very strong candidate. He clearly has potential, but he's not quite there yet.
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Stuart's interpersonal skills border on comical and his organisation is terrible, but I do think there is actually something there. He has often been bang on in advance about the faults of things such as the recycled clothing line. And the race car thing last week was actually a good idea - much better than Jamie's skiing thing. He is perhaps just too immature though - if he was on the show in 5 years or so I think he'd be a very strong candidate. He clearly has potential, but he's not quite there yet.
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Stuart's interpersonal skills border on comical and his organisation is terrible, but I do think there is actually something there. He has often been bang on in advance about the faults of things such as the recycled clothing line. And the race car thing last week was actually a good idea - much better than Jamie's skiing thing. He is perhaps just too immature though - if he was on the show in 5 years or so I think he'd be a very strong candidate. He clearly has potential, but he's not quite there yet.
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I don't mind Chris but isn't one of his failings this week that he should have made it his business to know what had gone on with Jamie and Christopher before the boardroom?
Although he wasn't a great PM, the task didn't demand one. |
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Stuart Baggs The Brand is one of the most irritating candidates I have ever seen.
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Saying Stuart is strongest male is like saying Wolverhampton Wanderers are the best of the teams that will get relegated.
He has his good points and I think he'll be better than Jay-me-me-me and Loser Chris once he grows up, but right now, Stella, Liz and Jo are miles better. |
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I'm not sure how. They weren't even in the same country when the mistake happened, and if they didn't volunteer that a 9am appointment was available he could hardly guess. Lord Sugar has the advantage of reports from the production team, who were in the car when it happened.
Although he wasn't a great PM, the task didn't demand one. Are you suggesting it's impossible to manage a team member who works remotely? Lots of managers do as did Stella.Chris became aware the other team had beaten them to that particular deal before the boardroom. Asking a few follow-on probing questions would have further clarified the situation. That is the role of the PM after all and the whole point of being in contact via telephone. |
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Are you suggesting it's impossible to manage a team member who works remotely? Lots of managers do as did Stella.
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Chris became aware the other team had beaten them to that particular deal before the boardroom. Asking a few follow-on probing questions would have further clarified the situation.
The other team happened to be first. Chris had no reason to probe because he had no reason to think his team had rejected an earlier appointment.
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Stuart is all say but no balls really, hes always sayign hes the best sales person and has shown many times this is not true, and he only stepped as PM because he had too last week, and he was a poor leader, the team only won because the girls did a good job.
Workshy's not the word. |
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There's no evidence that Stella managed the remote team any better. Her team did get more appointments, but as far as we can tell that was because they were more proactive, not because they were managed differently. (Having a German speaker probably helped, too.)
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The other team happened to be first. Chris had no reason to probe because he had no reason to think his team had rejected an earlier appointment.
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I don't mind Chris but isn't one of his failings this week that he should have made it his business to know what had gone on with Jamie and Christopher before the boardroom?
Surely it's common sense that if you are looking to pitch to someone, so last minute, you would want it as early as possible. First appointment of the day, unlikely to be late, 1pm chance of being held up much higher. Chance of being pipped to the deal by the other team should have been in Christopher and Jamie's mind, but it wasn't. To have actually accepted 9 and then change it was ludicrous decision and one of them was rightfully fired. |
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It's not really possible is it, would it allow team harmony for him to give them a task, then question them on everything they did up to completing the task to make sure they did it right?
Surely it's common sense that if you are looking to pitch to someone, so last minute, you would want it as early as possible. First appointment of the day, unlikely to be late, 1pm chance of being held up much higher. Chance of being pipped to the deal by the other team should have been in Christopher and Jamie's mind, but it wasn't. To have actually accepted 9 and then change it was ludicrous decision and one of them was rightfully fired. |
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I rate him over both Chris and Jamie and doesn't he have a better track record?
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Of course he is better than both of them. He so far isnt involved with real argument. Has managed Laura no mean task. I think she is only on the apprentice to see who can manage her. He has the right attitude to the German buyers realising they wont just take your order. He works very hard. Plays the fool, but is really clever. He gets on well with others even offering them his bubbly. I thought that was a very nice gesture. It sounded sincerely meant. What they write about him in his school days if true, he has certainly changed.
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I think that, given the unwritten requirement for gender balance the next person to be fired will be female. Laura looks the most likely, but LS loves teasing us.....
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I love him, I would like him to sell me some crisps.
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Is ERIC a female name in the Dales?
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Bit OTT to say Stuart speaks a second language. His German was dire. But credit where due, he gave it a shot. I doubt he would be capable of any negotiation in German.
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but I wouldn't employ him for those reasons alone.
Are you suggesting it's impossible to manage a team member who works remotely? Lots of managers do as did Stella.