DS Forums

 
 

Is Stuart Baggs the strongest man left?


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 25-11-2010, 16:28
Sweet FA
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: In my Opinion
Posts: 10,057

Let's see:-

He's won as PM;
He speaks a second language;
He oozes masculinity.

I rate him over both Chris and Jamie and doesn't he have a better track record?
Sweet FA is offline   Reply With Quote
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
Old 25-11-2010, 16:39
Leatherface!!!
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Earth dumbarse
Posts: 4,394
No I still say Chris is the strongest.

Altough he has lost alot, I dont blame the failures on him that much, wellapart from maybe the germinator idea. I dont think he should of been in the boardroom last week, and this week the failure was down to jamie and christpher, he did a good job as PM in both tasks he was PM.

Stuart is all say but no balls really, hes always sayign hes the best sales person and has shown many times this is not true, and he only stepped as PM because he had too last week, and he was a poor leader, the team only won because the girls did a good job.
Leatherface!!! is offline Follow this poster on Twitter   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2010, 16:46
Sweet FA
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: In my Opinion
Posts: 10,057
No I still say Chris is the strongest.

Altough he has lost alot, I dont blame the failures on him that much, wellapart from maybe the germinator idea. I dont think he should of been in the boardroom last week, and this week the failure was down to jamie and christpher, he did a good job as PM in both tasks he was PM...
I don't mind Chris but isn't one of his failings this week that he should have made it his business to know what had gone on with Jamie and Christopher before the boardroom?
Sweet FA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2010, 16:47
Damanda
Inactive Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 33,270
I think LS prefers Chris BUT much as i want to slap 'the brand', if i had to employ one of them i think it would be him, the others are too immovable and would be difficult to retrain, SB does at least seem like you could do something with him if you had the patience
BUT I would employ Jo, Stella or Liz before any of the boys
Damanda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2010, 16:50
Leatherface!!!
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Earth dumbarse
Posts: 4,394
I don't mind Chris but isn't one of his failings this week that he should have made it his business to know what had gone on with both Jamie and Christopher before the boardroom?
I dont know to be honest I only was flicking back from the apprentice to Twin Peaks.

All I saw was Christpher and Jamie agreeing to 9 oclock then changed their minds.

In the boardroom the team found out the other team got alot of orders from that company, so yes maybe chris should have made it his business to know, but what I saw that team seem to work well and the other team were moaning (I.E Laura saying something was shit).
Leatherface!!! is offline Follow this poster on Twitter   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2010, 16:53
soundstory
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,114
I don't mind Chris but isn't one of his failings this week that he should have made it his business to know what had gone on with Jamie and Christopher before the boardroom?
I don't think Chris is the strong candidate he appears to be.

This was the week he should have gone.

Chris' tactic every week is to point out the short comings of others.

Blame everybody else !
soundstory is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2010, 16:58
Sweet FA
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: In my Opinion
Posts: 10,057
I don't think Chris is the strong candidate he appears to be.
This was the week he should have gone.

Chris' tactic every week is to point out the short comings of others.

Blame everybody else !
Agreed - I wasn't joking when I said I rate Stuart over him business-wise. Chris is very articulate and I admit to liking his mouth but I wouldn't employ him for those reasons alone.
Sweet FA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2010, 17:09
xkatieloux
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: York, UK
Posts: 487
Stuart's interpersonal skills border on comical and his organisation is terrible, but I do think there is actually something there. He has often been bang on in advance about the faults of things such as the recycled clothing line. And the race car thing last week was actually a good idea - much better than Jamie's skiing thing. He is perhaps just too immature though - if he was on the show in 5 years or so I think he'd be a very strong candidate. He clearly has potential, but he's not quite there yet.
xkatieloux is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2010, 17:14
Sweet FA
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: In my Opinion
Posts: 10,057
Stuart's interpersonal skills border on comical and his organisation is terrible, but I do think there is actually something there. He has often been bang on in advance about the faults of things such as the recycled clothing line. And the race car thing last week was actually a good idea - much better than Jamie's skiing thing. He is perhaps just too immature though - if he was on the show in 5 years or so I think he'd be a very strong candidate. He clearly has potential, but he's not quite there yet.
Yes he does have good ideas and is clearly a self-starter and I also think a lot of his 'bravado' is for the benefit of the cameras and our entertainment. At least I hope they are.
Sweet FA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2010, 17:21
Leatherface!!!
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Earth dumbarse
Posts: 4,394
Stuart's interpersonal skills border on comical and his organisation is terrible, but I do think there is actually something there. He has often been bang on in advance about the faults of things such as the recycled clothing line. And the race car thing last week was actually a good idea - much better than Jamie's skiing thing. He is perhaps just too immature though - if he was on the show in 5 years or so I think he'd be a very strong candidate. He clearly has potential, but he's not quite there yet.
Agreed, he is a funny to laugh at because he thinks he is so great, I think he needs to grow up a bit more and he might have a better attitude in 5 years time.
Leatherface!!! is offline Follow this poster on Twitter   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2010, 20:27
brangdon
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Nottingham, UK
Posts: 11,878
I don't mind Chris but isn't one of his failings this week that he should have made it his business to know what had gone on with Jamie and Christopher before the boardroom?
I'm not sure how. They weren't even in the same country when the mistake happened, and if they didn't volunteer that a 9am appointment was available he could hardly guess. Lord Sugar has the advantage of reports from the production team, who were in the car when it happened.

Although he wasn't a great PM, the task didn't demand one.
brangdon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2010, 20:46
Sara Webb
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Button Moon
Posts: 7,251
Stuart Baggs The Brand is one of the most irritating candidates I have ever seen.
Sara Webb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2010, 22:39
Makosi's pants
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 11,925
Saying Stuart is strongest male is like saying Wolverhampton Wanderers are the best of the teams that will get relegated.

He has his good points and I think he'll be better than Jay-me-me-me and Loser Chris once he grows up, but right now, Stella, Liz and Jo are miles better.
Makosi's pants is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2010, 23:48
Sweet FA
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: In my Opinion
Posts: 10,057
I'm not sure how. They weren't even in the same country when the mistake happened, and if they didn't volunteer that a 9am appointment was available he could hardly guess. Lord Sugar has the advantage of reports from the production team, who were in the car when it happened.

Although he wasn't a great PM, the task didn't demand one.
What has being in the same country got to do with anything? Are you suggesting it's impossible to manage a team member who works remotely? Lots of managers do as did Stella.

Chris became aware the other team had beaten them to that particular deal before the boardroom. Asking a few follow-on probing questions would have further clarified the situation. That is the role of the PM after all and the whole point of being in contact via telephone.
Sweet FA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-11-2010, 12:28
brangdon
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Nottingham, UK
Posts: 11,878
Are you suggesting it's impossible to manage a team member who works remotely? Lots of managers do as did Stella.
There's no evidence that Stella managed the remote team any better. Her team did get more appointments, but as far as we can tell that was because they were more proactive, not because they were managed differently. (Having a German speaker probably helped, too.)

Chris became aware the other team had beaten them to that particular deal before the boardroom. Asking a few follow-on probing questions would have further clarified the situation.
The other team happened to be first. Chris had no reason to probe because he had no reason to think his team had rejected an earlier appointment.
brangdon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-11-2010, 12:34
rwebster
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,231
Stuart is all say but no balls really, hes always sayign hes the best sales person and has shown many times this is not true, and he only stepped as PM because he had too last week, and he was a poor leader, the team only won because the girls did a good job.
True, he was appalling last week, but he also volunteered the week before, and over the course of the two minutes he PMed before he was mysteriously usurped by Alex he seemed to be going into it with a remarkably positive attitude.

Workshy's not the word.
rwebster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-11-2010, 17:00
Sweet FA
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: In my Opinion
Posts: 10,057
There's no evidence that Stella managed the remote team any better. Her team did get more appointments, but as far as we can tell that was because they were more proactive, not because they were managed differently. (Having a German speaker probably helped, too.)
You don't really need evidence - the results speak for themselves and we saw Stella kicking Laura's @rse over her petulance. Thus she was a better manager - although she needed to be with an idiot child on her team.
The other team happened to be first. Chris had no reason to probe because he had no reason to think his team had rejected an earlier appointment.
Chris was told by the client himself that the other team had beaten them to it....which would be enough for any sensible person to ask a few questions...especially given his own neck was on the line.
Sweet FA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-11-2010, 17:12
rivercity_rules
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 23,842
I don't mind Chris but isn't one of his failings this week that he should have made it his business to know what had gone on with Jamie and Christopher before the boardroom?
It's not really possible is it, would it allow team harmony for him to give them a task, then question them on everything they did up to completing the task to make sure they did it right?

Surely it's common sense that if you are looking to pitch to someone, so last minute, you would want it as early as possible. First appointment of the day, unlikely to be late, 1pm chance of being held up much higher. Chance of being pipped to the deal by the other team should have been in Christopher and Jamie's mind, but it wasn't. To have actually accepted 9 and then change it was ludicrous decision and one of them was rightfully fired.
rivercity_rules is offline Follow this poster on Twitter   Reply With Quote
Old 27-11-2010, 17:13
Sweet FA
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: In my Opinion
Posts: 10,057
It's not really possible is it, would it allow team harmony for him to give them a task, then question them on everything they did up to completing the task to make sure they did it right?

Surely it's common sense that if you are looking to pitch to someone, so last minute, you would want it as early as possible. First appointment of the day, unlikely to be late, 1pm chance of being held up much higher. Chance of being pipped to the deal by the other team should have been in Christopher and Jamie's mind, but it wasn't. To have actually accepted 9 and then change it was ludicrous decision and one of them was rightfully fired.
All I know is I would have asked...
Sweet FA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-11-2010, 17:55
WinterFire
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 5,230
I rate him over both Chris and Jamie and doesn't he have a better track record?
Now there's an example of damning with faint praise.
WinterFire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-11-2010, 19:11
notary
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 197
Of course he is better than both of them. He so far isnt involved with real argument. Has managed Laura no mean task. I think she is only on the apprentice to see who can manage her. He has the right attitude to the German buyers realising they wont just take your order. He works very hard. Plays the fool, but is really clever. He gets on well with others even offering them his bubbly. I thought that was a very nice gesture. It sounded sincerely meant. What they write about him in his school days if true, he has certainly changed.
notary is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-11-2010, 19:24
Henry Price
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 88
I think that, given the unwritten requirement for gender balance the next person to be fired will be female. Laura looks the most likely, but LS loves teasing us.....
Henry Price is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-11-2010, 19:37
TheEricPollard
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: 'Dales
Posts: 9,628
I love him, I would like him to sell me some crisps.
TheEricPollard is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 27-11-2010, 20:50
notary
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 197
Is ERIC a female name in the Dales?
notary is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-11-2010, 22:40
sonnycorleone
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 3,270
Bit OTT to say Stuart speaks a second language. His German was dire. But credit where due, he gave it a shot. I doubt he would be capable of any negotiation in German.
sonnycorleone is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply




 
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 00:57.