Anne is tops with BBC employees.
So do you think Ann is getting the most public vote?
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They know which side their bread is buttered. There is a three-line-whip at the BBC to make sure no-one says anything against her.
Originally Posted by angelac:
“Do you have a link/source for this?”
“Do you have a link/source for this?”
I do - but I will not give my source away.I am sorry but I can't
This is what I think will be the leaderboard this weekend
Matt and Aliona 7 + 7 = 14
Pamela and James 6 + 3 = 9
Scott and Natalie 5 + 6 = 13
Kara and Artem 4 + 2 = 6
Patsy and Robin 3 + 1 = 4
Gavin and Katya 2 + 4 = 6
Ann and Anton 1 + 5 = 6
My information is that Kara, Patsy and Pamela are very tight in the public vote. And their placing in the public vote tends to go on who makes the better impact with their dance any given week. Hence why I think Pamel's Charleston and Kara's jive will pull more votes that an AT
Going by that Kara and Patsy in bottom two
Well I sincerely hope your source is wrong footygirl - criminal if Kara is getting 2nd lowest public vote.
Originally Posted by Tiger Rose:
“Well I sincerely hope your source is wrong footygirl - criminal if Kara is getting 2nd lowest public vote.”
“Well I sincerely hope your source is wrong footygirl - criminal if Kara is getting 2nd lowest public vote.”
Well every time someone is eliminated some of those who voted for them will transfer to someone else (I do) so the votes are probably fluid every week......Frankly if a female dancer that standard of Kara has no chance of winning this thing then I think I would rather vote for Ann.
I cannot see Kara scoring 4th top with judges. Even with Artem's dodgy neck last week and Len's extraordinary mark of 6 Kara clocked up 35. She is the leading scorer among the top 3, just that Scott grabbed the headlines with two crazy 39's.
I shall have to wear soft carpet slippers tomorrow. If Kara is eliminated I have to kick the TV screen.
I shall have to wear soft carpet slippers tomorrow. If Kara is eliminated I have to kick the TV screen.
Kara's jive training looks too good to end up 4th from top with the judges, my guess is she should be swapped with Pamela on the leaderboard, or else the two American Smooths will come top with Kara 3rd.
Either way it makes no difference to the outcome if the rest of your calcuations are the same, it would simply mean Gavin in the bottom 2 instead of Kara.
Either way it makes no difference to the outcome if the rest of your calcuations are the same, it would simply mean Gavin in the bottom 2 instead of Kara.
Kara will be fine.
She's second least likely to be eliminated next according to the bookies. Matt is the safest.
She's second least likely to be eliminated next according to the bookies. Matt is the safest.
Originally Posted by jjackson42:
“2 years ago, with John Sergeant, he - by his own admission - manipulated the viewers to vote for him. In his own words, he may not know how to dance, but he does know about voters.
He was also different from Ann in 2 other ways; he came across as an affable friendly bloke,and he TRIED. He wasn't very good, by his own admission, but he DID put the hours in and tried his best.
JJ”
“2 years ago, with John Sergeant, he - by his own admission - manipulated the viewers to vote for him. In his own words, he may not know how to dance, but he does know about voters.
He was also different from Ann in 2 other ways; he came across as an affable friendly bloke,and he TRIED. He wasn't very good, by his own admission, but he DID put the hours in and tried his best.
JJ”
I didn't see it like that at all! I couldn't stand Sergeant: a vain egomaniac who called a press conference to announce his departure.
Talk about dramatic.
Using the DS favourites as a rough guide for scores there is no way Scott will score more than Kara on the public vote. Has not been ahead of Kara in any DS favourite poll since week 4.
Scott is currently ahead of Pam & they are both ahead of Patsy.
The unknown quantity is Gavin, as he is obviously getting support as he has never been in the bottom 2 after the public vote.
Scott is currently ahead of Pam & they are both ahead of Patsy.
The unknown quantity is Gavin, as he is obviously getting support as he has never been in the bottom 2 after the public vote.
OK so if we take Footygirl's voting order as correct then this weekend Ann would get 5 from the public so, as long as there are no ties on the board, she will get 1 from the judges 6 points so everyone has to beat 6 points or they will be in danger and she will be safe. Obviously any ties on the board will give her more points and be even harder to beat. The position of the girls on the leaderboard will be crucial this week....I think Patsy is definitely in trouble unless she pulls out a fantastic AT and is near the top of the board 
Pamela and Kara need to be as far up the board as they can get, every extra point is crucial.
Pamela and Kara need to be as far up the board as they can get, every extra point is crucial.
Originally Posted by Jan2555*GG*:
“Well every time someone is eliminated some of those who voted for them will transfer to someone else (I do) so the votes are probably fluid every week......Frankly if a female dancer that standard of Kara has no chance of winning this thing then I think I would rather vote for Ann.”
“Well every time someone is eliminated some of those who voted for them will transfer to someone else (I do) so the votes are probably fluid every week......Frankly if a female dancer that standard of Kara has no chance of winning this thing then I think I would rather vote for Ann.”
I don't understand this logic. Wouldn't you vote for the next best dancer?
I think the time has come now where people should be voting for who they think is the best dancer and not for comedy effect, or even any other reason. We have had 8 weeks of Anne and I think that the rumba will really be the last comedy stunt she'll be able to pull, the next few dances she'll do will just be a repetition of her previous dances. A lot of people on this forum want a Scott, Matt and Kara final and I frankly think that these three are the most deserving to be there, if Pamela does well in the coming weeks she also may be deserving, but Patsy, Gavin and Anne definitely don't deserve to be there over the top four, so if people want a real good final then they should start voting to get one. Because if there is an upset you only have yourselves to blame.
Originally Posted by Noone:
“I don't understand this logic. Wouldn't you vote for the next best dancer?”
“I don't understand this logic. Wouldn't you vote for the next best dancer?
”
It was a knee jerk reaction to something else.
Source or no source, I'm more inclined to believe this....
I just don't believe that Kara is polling second to bottom in the phone votes. Particularly if all the various internet polls and betting odds are anything to go by.
Originally Posted by Monaogg:
“Using the DS favourites as a rough guide for scores there is no way Scott will score more than Kara on the public vote. Has not been ahead of Kara in any DS favourite poll since week 4.
Scott is currently ahead of Pam & they are both ahead of Patsy.
The unknown quantity is Gavin, as he is obviously getting support as he has never been in the bottom 2 after the public vote.”
“Using the DS favourites as a rough guide for scores there is no way Scott will score more than Kara on the public vote. Has not been ahead of Kara in any DS favourite poll since week 4.
Scott is currently ahead of Pam & they are both ahead of Patsy.
The unknown quantity is Gavin, as he is obviously getting support as he has never been in the bottom 2 after the public vote.”
I just don't believe that Kara is polling second to bottom in the phone votes. Particularly if all the various internet polls and betting odds are anything to go by.
I've come here to copy and paste a few pices of information similiar to the post above. I visit another forum where SCD insiders have been posting a few public vote info as and when they can...
DS is not populated by every single SCD viewer, so if the voting stats look a bit odd it's because you've been spending too long on here
Kara is suffering in the public vote, I think because of "Lisa Snowden syndrome". She's been consistently low.
Someone earlier in this thread mentioned the problems with ties - there has not yet been anything too serious yet, but all it takes is a week like this one coming up with fewer dancers with such huge potential for discrepencies between top and bottom...
DS is not populated by every single SCD viewer, so if the voting stats look a bit odd it's because you've been spending too long on here
Kara is suffering in the public vote, I think because of "Lisa Snowden syndrome". She's been consistently low.
Someone earlier in this thread mentioned the problems with ties - there has not yet been anything too serious yet, but all it takes is a week like this one coming up with fewer dancers with such huge potential for discrepencies between top and bottom...
I visit 3 SCD related sites and the Scott love is not out there. Actually find Pam is more popular elsewhere than here. So who knows?
Natalie is playing it very safe this week both with the music choice and dance to cover up Scott's exhaustion. So we shall see particularly as the training showed last night how worn out Scott seems to be.
Natalie is playing it very safe this week both with the music choice and dance to cover up Scott's exhaustion. So we shall see particularly as the training showed last night how worn out Scott seems to be.
I'd rather Ann Widecombe won Stictly than Wagner win x-factor.
At the end of the day Ann Winning doesn't matter - as the winner doesn't actually win anything important or life changing. She just wins a glitterball trophy.
However if Wagner wins he takes away a 1 million pound record contract from someone who actually deserves to win.
That is what a lot of people don't seem to understand. They are saying I don't want Ann to win yet they want Wagner to be victorious.
At the end of the day Ann Winning doesn't matter - as the winner doesn't actually win anything important or life changing. She just wins a glitterball trophy.
However if Wagner wins he takes away a 1 million pound record contract from someone who actually deserves to win.
That is what a lot of people don't seem to understand. They are saying I don't want Ann to win yet they want Wagner to be victorious.
Originally Posted by casa_nova:
“I'd rather Ann Widecombe won Stictly than Wagner win x-factor.
At the end of the day Ann Winning doesn't matter - as the winner doesn't actually win anything important or life changing. She just wins a glitterball trophy.
However if Wagner wins he takes away a 1 million pound record contract from someone who actually deserves to win.
That is what a lot of people don't seem to understand. They are saying I don't want Ann to win yet they want Wagner to be victorious.”
“I'd rather Ann Widecombe won Stictly than Wagner win x-factor.
At the end of the day Ann Winning doesn't matter - as the winner doesn't actually win anything important or life changing. She just wins a glitterball trophy.
However if Wagner wins he takes away a 1 million pound record contract from someone who actually deserves to win.
That is what a lot of people don't seem to understand. They are saying I don't want Ann to win yet they want Wagner to be victorious.”
AW winning would take something away from every other contestant, the professionals and the show. - The spirit of fair play!
Wagner winning would be a poke in the eye for Simon Cowell and the show which has run its course (even Simon appears tired of the format). Who is to say the runner up will not be offered a similar contract if their public profile is high enough.
Whoever wins the Why Factor you can guarantee the Million will be recouped in no time.
Originally Posted by casa_nova:
“I'd rather Ann Widecombe won Stictly than Wagner win x-factor.
At the end of the day Ann Winning doesn't matter - as the winner doesn't actually win anything important or life changing. She just wins a glitterball trophy.
However if Wagner wins he takes away a 1 million pound record contract from someone who actually deserves to win.
That is what a lot of people don't seem to understand. They are saying I don't want Ann to win yet they want Wagner to be victorious.”
“I'd rather Ann Widecombe won Stictly than Wagner win x-factor.
At the end of the day Ann Winning doesn't matter - as the winner doesn't actually win anything important or life changing. She just wins a glitterball trophy.
However if Wagner wins he takes away a 1 million pound record contract from someone who actually deserves to win.
That is what a lot of people don't seem to understand. They are saying I don't want Ann to win yet they want Wagner to be victorious.”
I think there's a big difference in the motives behind those people who are voting for Wagner.
A lot of those voting for Wagner see it as a another protest vote against Simon Cowell's chart domination..similar to the Rage Against the Machine campaign last Christmas. I know people who never even watch the show that are voting for Wagner,,they just despise Cowell and everything he stands for in the music business.
I don't think SCD arouses the same antipathy.
Anne will be voted out this week for sure. She is appearing during the week at a theatre in my town. No time for dancing this week!!
Originally Posted by casa_nova:
“
However if Wagner wins he takes away a 1 million pound record contract from someone who actually deserves to win.
”
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However if Wagner wins he takes away a 1 million pound record contract from someone who actually deserves to win.
”
Not necessarily. If the other acts are talented and popular enough, they will secure recording contracts and sell plenty of albums.
Some of the most successful acts from X Factor are ones that didn't actually win the show.
Originally Posted by Monaogg:
“AW winning would take something away from every other contestant, the professionals and the show. - The spirit of fair play!”
“AW winning would take something away from every other contestant, the professionals and the show. - The spirit of fair play!”
As long as the votes weren't miscounted, then Ann, if she were to win, would do so fair and square.
Originally Posted by slade1:
“Anne will be voted out this week for sure. She is appearing during the week at a theatre in my town. No time for dancing this week!!”
“Anne will be voted out this week for sure. She is appearing during the week at a theatre in my town. No time for dancing this week!!”
And that matters - how?
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