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Scott - most outrageous over marking in the show's history
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Matt&AlionaFan
29-11-2010
Originally Posted by Sallyforth:
“Scott is clearly physically and mentally drained, and I know he's not the only one with a busy schedule but they (indeed, we) all have different demands and capacity to cope.

All the other stuff aside, I'm glad he's still in the competition, provided he still wants to be and can cope better going forward.

I hope he manages to get a couple of decent nights' kip, optimum nutrition etc to help him get back to full strength ASAP and that after that he can find a way to manage his schedule and maintain the stamina to produce dances more like some of his best efforts.”

How much longer does Scott have such a heavy EE work schedule? If it carries on for another two or three weeks he has got to do something because if he stays in after this week he'll have to learn two dances for the semi and if he can't manage one at the moment how the hell will he cope with two!!
soulmate61
29-11-2010
Natalie wrestled a passive but willing Scott round the floor in the second half, not watering down her side of the routine, and not giving Scott a chance to sit down on the steps. It is a tribute to Natalie's quick thinking and resolution not to mention strength and leverage. To his credit once Scott found his cue he did not hesitate to execute his fullblown hair-raising lift of Natalie.

This is the trouble with celebs drilled on one verbatim script of foot moves in the foxtrot. When they lose one step they lack the inner dynamo of rhythm that would restart the engine in basic steps for a very musical person.
fatskia
29-11-2010
Not even the most outrageous on this series - Len gave Ann SEVEEEEEEEN
mindyann
29-11-2010
Interesting to look at the total points allocated so far, though.

Scott has 299 total.
Matt 303
Kara 305

Interestingly though, Pam has a total of 299 if my fingers an dodgy calucations have it right
tonydancer
29-11-2010
From now on the better dancers become vulnerable. As AW seems to be a shoo-in for the semi-final at least, only Gavin stands between the top four and the chop. But his "hormonal vote", which the two best female dancers lack, seems to be rock solid.
So over-/undermarking of Matt/Scott/Kara/Pamela by the judges could decide the next loser.
StrictlyRed
29-11-2010
Originally Posted by tonydancer:
“From now on the better dancers become vulnerable. As AW seems to be a shoo-in for the semi-final at least, only Gavin stands between the top four and the chop. But his "hormonal vote", which the two best female dancers lack, seems to be rock solid.So over-/undermarking of Matt/Scott/Kara/Pamela by the judges could decide the next loser.”

He was in the bottom two this week, so i don't think we can assume that.
Servalan
29-11-2010
Originally Posted by tonydancer:
“From now on the better dancers become vulnerable. As AW seems to be a shoo-in for the semi-final at least, only Gavin stands between the top four and the chop. But his "hormonal vote", which the two best female dancers lack, seems to be rock solid.
So over-/undermarking of Matt/Scott/Kara/Pamela by the judges could decide the next loser.”

From the info leaked by another DS FM, this isn't true.

The only vulnerable celebs are Kara and Pamela, both of whom are less popular with the public than the boys and Ann.

Which is why they have to score well with the judges in order to avoid the bottom two.
beauty-1
29-11-2010
The judges always have their favourites every series snd it always gets on my nerves. Lisa Snowden was the worst and Matt D'angelo. This series they underate Matt. I really liked his american smooth, he looks like a pro to me, beautiful fluid finished lines, fully acted and committed to performance.
sandix
29-11-2010
Originally Posted by Tangerine_82:
“Yes, I know It was a shame. In amongst all the vitriol and bitchiness about Scott being overscored (which is the judges fault by the way, nothing to do with Scott) people seem to have forgotten or are ignoring the fact that Scott had a horrible night. There should be sympathy, not people jumping on him. Is there really that much hatred in people that they can't feel sorry for someone any more? Just because your favourite didn't get high scores in a dancing competition? Really?”

I agree entirely with your remarks. I enjoy watching Scott, when he is on form he is a great dancer, but his AS was poor. But the abuse aimed at him because of the judges marking is unacceptable. SCD is an entertainment programme and should be viewed as such, its not life or death the world won't come to an end because of some dodgy marking.
shefair
29-11-2010
Originally Posted by sandix:
“I agree entirely with your remarks. I enjoy watching Scott, when he is on form he is a great dancer, but his AS was poor. But the abuse aimed at him because of the judges marking is unacceptable. SCD is an entertainment programme and should be viewed as such, its not life or death the world won't come to an end because of some dodgy marking. ”

In fairness I did go off Scott a bit on Saturday , I have little patience with him doing 2 jobs which he is very well paid for and complaining and he really did complain


Having then got disproportionatly high scores I did not appreciate him saying he was suprised by them , pleasently suprised , but suprised and as for Nat saying that was the best celeb AS she has ever danced, REALLY nat , do you think we are blind

Scott beautiful dancer that he can be messed up this week and judges , Scott and Nat anoyed me as they seemed to think we were sheep in the audience to beleive it was a good dance when it wasn't just because they told us it was

So yes I have gone off Scott and Nat a bit this week , I am no sheeep and can recognise a bad dance when one happens
peppy5
29-11-2010
I think you'll find if you look back at their Tess chat after the dance that what Natalie said was - the dress run AS was the best she'd ever danced
StrictlyRed
29-11-2010
Originally Posted by peppy5:
“I think you'll find if you look back at their Tess chat after the dance that what Natalie said was - the dress run AS was the best she'd ever danced”

Yes, that's what i heard too.
shefair
29-11-2010
Originally Posted by peppy5:
“I think you'll find if you look back at their Tess chat after the dance that what Natalie said was - the dress run AS was the best she'd ever danced”

Did n't hear tht at all If that is what she said it makes it slighlty better , but still , it was what he danced not what he was capable of dancing

Otherwise according to Katya Gavin would be getting high marks every week as he does suffer from nerves and messes up on the Saturday , but USUALLY ( admittedly not this week ) he has the grace to admit to a mess up
shefair
29-11-2010
Oh and to however it was who said it the 7 for Ann dance was the worst overmarking ever

She has never warented more than a 3 at most and often not that
Special K_
29-11-2010
He certainly didn't deserve one nine let alone two but he seems to be a favourite so...
Bonnie96
29-11-2010
Originally Posted by peppy5:
“I think you'll find if you look back at their Tess chat after the dance that what Natalie said was - the dress run AS was the best she'd ever danced”

Originally Posted by StrictlyRed:
“Yes, that's what i heard too.”

*nods in agreement*
Bonnie96
29-11-2010
Originally Posted by mindyann:
“Interesting to look at the total points allocated so far, though.

Scott has 299 total.
Matt 303
Kara 305

Interestingly though, Pam has a total of 299 if my fingers an dodgy calucations have it right ”

All the overall marks are at the bottom of this page
Stockingfiller
29-11-2010
Originally Posted by beauty-1:
“The judges always have their favourites every series snd it always gets on my nerves. Lisa Snowden was the worst and Matt D'angelo. This series they underate Matt. I really liked his american smooth, he looks like a pro to me, beautiful fluid finished lines, fully acted and committed to performance.”

I totally agree with you. One year,also, Craig was in thrall of Emma Bunton. She wasn't bad but the OTT praising up was awful.
Bonnie96
29-11-2010
Originally Posted by mindyann:
“Interesting to look at the total points allocated so far, though.

Scott has 299 total.
Matt 303
Kara 305

Interestingly though, Pam has a total of 299 if my fingers an dodgy calucations have it right ”

Linked the wrong page above - that was week 8
Below is the correct page
Week 9 Stats
Tangerine_82
29-11-2010
Originally Posted by beauty-1:
“The judges always have their favourites every series snd it always gets on my nerves. Lisa Snowden was the worst and Matt D'angelo. This series they underate Matt. I really liked his american smooth, he looks like a pro to me, beautiful fluid finished lines, fully acted and committed to performance.”

I think Lisa Snowdon did sometimes benefit from overmarking but she was a great dancer, same goes for Matt DA. And I don't agree that Matt is underrated. It's just that the judges don't see in him what you do. And neither do I, sorry
Stockingfiller
30-11-2010
The 'Eastenders' final might still be on course, then.
bobajot
30-11-2010
Originally Posted by shefair:
“Oh and to however it was who said it the 7 for Ann dance was the worst overmarking ever

She has never warented more than a 3 at most and often not that”

In your opinion. On entertainment value she should be getting 8 or 9. Dancing - well she doesn't. People vote for her because they like the routine. Tell me where is professional or amateur dancing on prime time TV. It isn't because it is boring the GP are just not interested.
Tangerine_82
30-11-2010
Originally Posted by bobajot:
“In your opinion. On entertainment value she should be getting 8 or 9. Dancing - well she doesn't. People vote for her because they like the routine. Tell me where is professional or amateur dancing on prime time TV. It isn't because it is boring the GP are just not interested.”

Um, I hope you're not trying to imply that she's at a low amateur standard .. because she's not lol. She's awful, I have never seen in my entire life someone who was quite so awful at dancing as Ann Widdecombe. It's probably got a lot to do with the fact that she doesn't try though and everyone else who dances does.

On entertainment value she would be getting a 1 because I'm bored when she's on, bored out of my mind, desperately waiting for her wasted segment of the show to be over.
mindyann
30-11-2010
Originally Posted by bobajot:
“In your opinion. On entertainment value she should be getting 8 or 9. Dancing - well she doesn't. People vote for her because they like the routine. Tell me where is professional or amateur dancing on prime time TV. It isn't because it is boring the GP are just not interested.”

Look at it this way, if you say the judges score of 10 is split for say 4 for technique, 4 for entertainment and 2 for overall effect then she is actually overscoring for the entertainment side.
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