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Did Matt offend the judges?
I just DO NOT know how Matt was scored so poorley in comparison to other dancers who messed up their routines.
Did he offend Alesha & Bruno? Before anyone jumps down my throat this is not an anti-Alesha post. I loved her as a contestant & like her as a judge but Bruno and Alesha were out of order this evening. P1ss poor judging imo |
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To be honest I think it was the routine itself. Matt made a few mistakes but had the routine been better and not quite so out-there crazy, I'm sure he would have been scored higher. This one goes down to Aliona I'm afraid. A pro dancer couldn't have got a 10 for that weirdness
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There are several threads already for discussing this. Is it really necessary to start another one?
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Bruno and Alesha were terrible last week too. I really didn't like Matt tonight though.
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Never mind, it's done now. Quote:
To be honest I think it was the routine itself.... A pro dancer couldn't have got a 10 for that weirdness
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To be honest I think it was the routine itself. Matt made a few mistakes but had the routine been better and not quite so out-there crazy, I'm sure he would have been scored higher. This one goes down to Aliona I'm afraid. A pro dancer couldn't have got a 10 for that weirdness
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Matt is so nice he wouldn't show any objection or anger, but I'm sure he was gutted.
Oustandingly awfullllllll scores. |
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Choreography aside, Matt danced well. There were a couple of small errors but his dancing ability tonight was was head and shoulders above the other male contestants, and he therefore should have received higher marks and better comments from the judges. Especially since Scott made a dogs dinner of his dance & got 2 9's?!?!?!?!?!?!?
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Neither Matt nor Aliona were happy with the comments ( well who would be with bad comments after dancing a routine you thought was good ) but Aliona was sniggering at something either Craig or Len (
) said in a (I did see Len look at his score pad for verification while the cameras were on the Judges for their 'paddle' scores.) Tbh, I think they were expecting more after all the PR done this week on ITT. |
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Choreography aside, Matt danced well. There were a couple of small errors but his dancing ability tonight was was head and shoulders above the other male contestants, and he therefore should have received higher marks and better comments from the judges. Especially since Scott made a dogs dinner of his dance & got 2 9's?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Like you OP, I wondered myself about the judges' frostiness towards Matt. He danced very well, whereas Scott, who received higher scores, was nowhere near his best. |
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There was something very strange about the disparity of the judge's marking.
Like you OP, I wondered myself about the judges' frostiness towards Matt. He danced very well, whereas Scott, who received higher scores, was nowhere near his best. I have noticed that the junior judges tend to prefer classic rather than modern interpretations of dancing, and it may have been the routine rather than the dancing which was troublesome to them... |
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Aliona said early in the week that their interpretation of the AS was very modern and might not be liked so could hardly grumble when it wasn't liked - felt sorry for Matt though as he is obviously feeling the favouritism towards Scott with his comment to Len when Len said he had made mistakes and he said 'but recovered and carried on like you said to Scott' i think it shows he feels slighted in comparison and with good reason the judges exceptin Craig should be ashamed of themselves.
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Aliona said early in the week that their interpretation of the AS was very modern and might not be liked so could hardly grumble when it wasn't liked - felt sorry for Matt though as he is obviously feeling the favouritism towards Scott with his comment to Len when Len said he had made mistakes and he said 'but recovered and carried on like you said to Scott' i think it shows he feels slighted in comparison and with good reason the judges exceptin Craig should be ashamed of themselves.
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Agreed. I think it is particularly telling that one of the nicest contestants on here not only noticed a disparity in the judges' comments, but reacted to that at the time with his own comment. If the contestants are noticing the stupid marking and bias, then it shows what a total mockery it really is.
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I had not noticed Matts comment back to Len before but they were quite pointed. M&A just looked completely bemused at the end of the comments - barring CRH the judges seemed determined to bring him down a peg.
For what it is worth this whole episode may harden Matt's support and backfire on Scott, not that it is in any way Scott's fault. There is often a backlash against teachers pet. |
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For what it is worth this whole episode may harden Matt's support and backfire on Scott, not that it is in any way Scott's fault. There is often a backlash against teachers pet.
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Just watched the judges comments again - Len, Alesha and Bruno's comments were unbelievably snide about Matt. It was a real putdown - I don't have too many issues about the marks [other than how they compared to Scot's]. It reminds me a bit of how Len was to Chris Hollins at times - the judges can try to manipulate the vote but ultimately the public have the final say.
Matt & Aliona may as well just do their own thing because they are not going to get any credit from the judges - but Matt needs to avoid getting drawn in to retaliation. |
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I'm sure it will up Matt's support but I don't think it will affect Scott's support
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Matt & Aliona may as well just do their own thing because they are not going to get any credit from the judges - but Matt needs to avoid getting drawn in to retaliation.
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I'm sure it will up Matt's support but I don't think it will affect Scott's support -
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They are prob sick of his poor me act and his always moaning about not getting a 10 until last week.
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Not sure if someone has said this as I haven't read the entire thread, but I think Aliona is the one who has offended the judges. I am sure she's p*ssed Len off big time, last week with that flipping (which I don't mind) and this week she might just put her finger literally up Len's bumhole!
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They are prob sick of his poor me act and his always moaning about not getting a 10 until last week.
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They are prob sick of his poor me act and his always moaning about not getting a 10 until last week.
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Generally speaking I like Matt's dancing, including tonight. However, he was wearing some strange facial expressions and at times seemed unconnected to his partner. He needs to keep her tighter in closed hold.
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