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New Odds - Wagner Now Comfortably Ahead Of Cher
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TheInvisiator
27-11-2010
These are current SportingIndex spreadbetting odds. Usually more reliable than normal bookmakers.

The number is a representation of each contestants predicted place. With the winner getting 50pts, 2nd 30pts, 3rd 20pts, 4th 10pts, all others 0pts. I.e. Matt is clear favourite to win. Wagner and Cher were even before tonight's show but now Wagner has pulled a clear lead.


Matt Cardle 37-40
One Direction 26-29
Rebecca Ferguson 19-22
Wagner Fiuza-Carrilho 8-11
Cher Lloyd 6-8
Mary Byrne 3-5
Katie Waissel 3-5

Don't be complacent though, the XF is notoriously difficult to predict. Wagner needs your votes, see my profile for the all important number!
MARTYM8
27-11-2010
Wagner probably has a lot of people betting on him - but not so many actually voting for him
Stormier Ziggy
27-11-2010
Don't wanna rest on your laurels, hopefully he gets through this week, would be class
Black Dagger
27-11-2010
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“Wagner probably has a lot of people betting on him - but not so many actually voting for him”

Wouldn't be too sure of that.. Spoke to 7 people since the show ended and they have all voted for him 5 times each and will be doing more so later on.
lovecat86
27-11-2010
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“Wagner probably has a lot of people betting on him - but not so many actually voting for him”

If I'd bet on him, I'd probably chuck him a couple of votes to get him to the final.
Dazzer1971
27-11-2010
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“Wagner probably has a lot of people betting on him - but not so many actually voting for him”

What world are you in? All the Wagner supporters are multi voting in a massive way. Were not going to give him one vote when we can give him 100 votes.

There are people on social network sites and forums voting hard to keep him in. Many people want to give Simon the finger this year.
MARTYM8
27-11-2010
Originally Posted by Dazzer1971:
“There are people on social network sites and forums voting hard to keep him in. Many people want to give Simon the finger this year.”

As has been pointed out - Simon doesn't care who wins as he still makes shedloads. If that's your intention then the only people that suffer are the other acts.

If you like Wagner vote for him - but don't vote for him to spite Mary, Matt, 1 Direction, Rebecca Cher and Katie. They are the only losers from him winning.

Even if Wagner wins the show will be back next year with more willing victims - its ITV's biggest show of the year and they would never drop it voluntarily.
Unigal07
27-11-2010
Originally Posted by lovecat86:
“If I'd bet on him, I'd probably chuck him a couple of votes to get him to the final.”

Good point.
grimtales1
27-11-2010
I voted for Wagner
Flamethrower100
27-11-2010
his card is marked. he's out tommorow.

i have been saying that for ages.

this is turning into the stupidest show in creation. I'm going to watch the auditions on youtube next year and leave it at that.
*Liya*
27-11-2010
He's gone tomorrow for sure.
pxd867
27-11-2010
Katie will definately be below him, as will Mary I think.
sporti
27-11-2010
[

There are people on social network sites and forums voting hard to keep him in. Many people want to give Simon the finger this year.[/quote]

Didnt you hear what Simon said? He said it wont make any difference to him if Wagner wins. He also went on to say that it will just take it away from the contestants who have genuine talent. In other words money will roll in for Simon no matter who wins but for the other contestants who could go on to sell multiple CD's and perform in concerts all over the world they are the ones who are going to miss out. I think thats a real shame.
Lydian
27-11-2010
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“but don't vote for him to spite Mary, Matt, 1 Direction, Rebecca Cher and Katie. They are the only losers from him winning.”

No need to get all pious - most of the others dont deserve to be there ahead of him anyway. Only Matt is the stand out talent - the rest are all wannabes, even Rebecca is boring and never moves, not entertaining in the slightest. Cher is smug and arrogant, 1D are so artificial its untrue and dont even start about Katie...
itsashrubery
27-11-2010
Originally Posted by sporti:
“[

There are people on social network sites and forums voting hard to keep him in. Many people want to give Simon the finger this year.”

Didnt you hear what Simon said? He said it wont make any difference to him if Wagner wins. He also went on to say that it will just take it away from the contestants who have genuine talent. In other words money will roll in for Simon no matter who wins but for the other contestants who could go on to sell multiple CD's and perform in concerts all over the world they are the ones who are going to miss out. I think thats a real shame.[/quote]


Vagner FTW
CH1LL
27-11-2010
wagner to win
Lydian
27-11-2010
Originally Posted by sporti:
“ Didnt you hear what Simon said? He said it wont make any difference to him if Wagner wins. He also went on to say that it will just take it away from the contestants who have genuine talent. In other words money will roll in for Simon no matter who wins but for the other contestants who could go on to sell multiple CD's and perform in concerts all over the world they are the ones who are going to miss out. I think thats a real shame.”

Oh another one suckered by Cowell's reverse-logic.

Of course he's bothered! He's launching XF in the US and wont want Wagner winning and being the example to carry forward when he's trying to compete against American Idol which does tend to favour talented acts. They already have America's Got Talent so he wont want XFUS lumped in with that.

As I said above only Matt has a medicom of talent on the show, none of the others stand out above Wagner...so dont deserve to be there any more than him.

And dont FORGET...it was Cowell and Louis that put him in the show, dont think Cowell is innocent in all this. Boy, has the joke backfired on him though.
AhmedFan2004
27-11-2010
Originally Posted by pxd867:
“Katie will definately be below him, as will Mary I think.”

But he needs another below him too. Perhaps Cher or Rebecca, since 1D and Matt are safe.
pxd867
27-11-2010
Cher was below him last week, and she hardly set the place alight this week. so I think she will almost certainly be in trouble again.
MARTYM8
27-11-2010
Originally Posted by Lydian:
“No need to get all pious - most of the others dont deserve to be there ahead of him anyway. Only Matt is the stand out talent - the rest are all wannabes, even Rebecca is boring and never moves, not entertaining in the slightest. Cher is smug and arrogant, 1D are so artificial its untrue and dont even start about Katie...”

Mary is nice though - and she always sticks up for Wagner. They should form a duo after the show.
grimtales1
27-11-2010
Simon was complimentary to Wagner this week again - hmmmm. He said Creep was "for him - very good" and "embrace the madness" for Addicted to Love. Creep was very good and his best performance - ATL wasnt bad either - he sounded in tune to me!
LadyHonestswag
27-11-2010
Originally Posted by lovecat86:
“If I'd bet on him, I'd probably chuck him a couple of votes to get him to the final.”

do it all the same, get him to the final and win, vote wagner
LadyHonestswag
27-11-2010
Vote For Wagner And Mary.
MARTYM8
27-11-2010
Originally Posted by LadyHonestswag:
“Vote For Wagner And Mary.”

I wouid love that as the final 2!

Cheryl would probably emigrate in disgust.
LadyHonestswag
27-11-2010
Originally Posted by pxd867:
“Cher was below him last week, and she hardly set the place alight this week. so I think she will almost certainly be in trouble again.”

I so hope you are right
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