Honestly, some people need some perspective if they are getting upset about one rotton apple (out of a good bunch of five) spoiling the apple cart.
Stop complaining about Ann
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Originally Posted by soulmate61:
“Those who post endlessly against Ann are free to vote as diligently for non-Ann celebs to unseat her, as Ann voters do to bring back their candidate.”
“Those who post endlessly against Ann are free to vote as diligently for non-Ann celebs to unseat her, as Ann voters do to bring back their candidate.”
Yes this week I really need to get voting for Ann. It's a protest vote(s) against the corrupt mouthy judges.
Originally Posted by dome:
“Your source for this? Or is it your own thoughts?
Odd that all the couples happily laugh and smile naturally after Ann and Anton have danced, they all seem pretty happy to me.”
“Your source for this? Or is it your own thoughts?
Odd that all the couples happily laugh and smile naturally after Ann and Anton have danced, they all seem pretty happy to me.”
It's interesting that you say that because until now I would have totally agreed with you. Yet I felt last night that a lot of the other couple's 'genuine' support and encouragement of A&A had dampened somewhat. The smiles were still on the other couple's faces but to me it didn't appear quite the same. I don't know if anyone else agrees with me, but it is what I felt at the time.
Originally Posted by Melissa1743:
“It's interesting that you say that because until now I would have totally agreed with you. Yet I felt last night that a lot of the other couple's 'genuine' support and encouragement of A&A had dampened somewhat. The smiles were still on the other couple's faces but to me it didn't appear quite the same. I don't know if anyone else agrees with me, but it is what I felt at the time.”
“It's interesting that you say that because until now I would have totally agreed with you. Yet I felt last night that a lot of the other couple's 'genuine' support and encouragement of A&A had dampened somewhat. The smiles were still on the other couple's faces but to me it didn't appear quite the same. I don't know if anyone else agrees with me, but it is what I felt at the time.”
What does it matter if the pros and celebs support each other? Not as if they have to impress each other in order to get votes to survive.
Originally Posted by CloneClown:
“What does it matter if the pros and celebs support each other? Not as if they have to impress each other in order to get votes to survive.”
“What does it matter if the pros and celebs support each other? Not as if they have to impress each other in order to get votes to survive.”
You're right - It doesn't really matter at all. It was merely an observation and I thought I would post my observation here in reponse to an earlier one that was somewhat different to my own.
Originally Posted by bobajot:
“Yes this week I really need to get voting for Ann. It's a protest vote(s) against the corrupt mouthy judges.”
“Yes this week I really need to get voting for Ann. It's a protest vote(s) against the corrupt mouthy judges.”
That is exactly my reason for voting for her. If they actually had a sense of humour and realised this is a light entertainment show not a professional dancing competition then the general public would get bored. I am very happy that Ann is not going to quit. Why should she?
I really don't understand the thinking behind voting for Anne as some kind of protest against the judges. I would have thought the only reason to vote would be because you want to see that person dance again but everyone to their own I guess.
I don't see how any of this gets to the judges they are over marking some and under marking others but we all have our faves so are also biased in our thinking. How does voting for Anne change this?
I don't see how any of this gets to the judges they are over marking some and under marking others but we all have our faves so are also biased in our thinking. How does voting for Anne change this?
Originally Posted by rosco2010:
“All I see here is people bitching about Ann, and its getting dull. It's not the BBC's fault, the only people to blame are the british public. If she wins, its your fault.
”
“All I see here is people bitching about Ann, and its getting dull. It's not the BBC's fault, the only people to blame are the british public. If she wins, its your fault.
”
No, it'll be the fault of the people who voted for her, not the people complaining about her.
Originally Posted by telly fan:
“I really don't understand the thinking behind voting for Anne as some kind of protest against the judges. I would have thought the only reason to vote would be because you want to see that person dance again but everyone to their own I guess.
I don't see how any of this gets to the judges they are over marking some and under marking others but we all have our faves so are also biased in our thinking. How does voting for Anne change this?”
“I really don't understand the thinking behind voting for Anne as some kind of protest against the judges. I would have thought the only reason to vote would be because you want to see that person dance again but everyone to their own I guess.
I don't see how any of this gets to the judges they are over marking some and under marking others but we all have our faves so are also biased in our thinking. How does voting for Anne change this?”
Also, by Ann getting this far, next year the BBC will assume that a Widdiesque contestant is what people want (hopefully not for very much longer) and will be trying to out-Widdy Widdy. Thankfully, I think Thatcher will not be signing up.
Originally Posted by sparky2010:
“That is exactly my reason for voting for her. If they actually had a sense of humour and realised this is a light entertainment show not a professional dancing competition then the general public would get bored. I am very happy that Ann is not going to quit. Why should she?”
“That is exactly my reason for voting for her. If they actually had a sense of humour and realised this is a light entertainment show not a professional dancing competition then the general public would get bored. I am very happy that Ann is not going to quit. Why should she?”
Oh dear I get so sick of ann supporters saying this. Yes its entertainment, but the entertainment is that these celebrities learn a new dance every week and whoever dances best gets the highest score, and whoever the public enjoys the most they vote for. The celebs go on the show because they want to learn to dance. Thats the name of the game. Can you honestly say you enjoy ann's performances the most every week? Maybe you do, but you just said that you vote for her to get to the judges.
The judges are there for a reason - to judge the dancing. They won't change that for you. So there isn't much point voting for the one that doesn't even try just to try to make them change their purpose on the show because they won't.
By all means vote for ann if she genuinely entertains you the most, but I do think its a bit sad that people waste their money voting for her to try to get to the judges. Very odd
Originally Posted by bobajot:
“Yes this week I really need to get voting for Ann. It's a protest vote(s) against the corrupt mouthy judges.”
“Yes this week I really need to get voting for Ann. It's a protest vote(s) against the corrupt mouthy judges.”
What have the judges done?
Originally Posted by RubySparkle:
“What have the judges done?”
“What have the judges done?”
Craig marks reasonably well but has a sewer of a gob. The others give marks not for the dance presented but for who they want to keep in the competition hence corrupt. Saturday was the best reason I've seen for the public to have 100% of the vote. I also think A & A's routine on Saturday was highly entertaining. So she can't dance very well and gets constantly derided for the public having the brass neck to vote for her. The whole show is highly unfair on the less able celeb's.
Will it make a jot of difference to any of our lives whoever wins Strictly? No
They all deserve to be there, Ann in her own way has improved greatly from the stiff and starchy matron that started the series.
In her own way, she's done well
They all deserve to be there, Ann in her own way has improved greatly from the stiff and starchy matron that started the series.In her own way, she's done well
If we (the viewers who love a dance competition) do not complain on forums, the bbc are likely to believe, from the voting figures, that the great British public really want Ann in the competition!!
I know of no one who has or will vote for her and I am personally at a loss to imagine WHY anyone votes for her, either for her dancing (??) or her political views.
I also think that whilst on SCD all the stars and the professional dancers have to keep up the one big happy family front.
The professional dancers are all afraid of the bbc axe. We lost a lot of good dancers when the last one fell. I am also certain that they have a gagging clause in their contracts so you won't here any criticism from them. It is a pity Brendon is not still fighting to stay in because I think he would be too passionate to keep quiet about an injustice like this Ann debacle.
I had hoped Ann would go last night and I am extremely shocked that she is still in. I will no longer watch the show as she has ruined it for me. Please note bbc, those voting for Ann do not represent the views of a nation!!
I know of no one who has or will vote for her and I am personally at a loss to imagine WHY anyone votes for her, either for her dancing (??) or her political views.
I also think that whilst on SCD all the stars and the professional dancers have to keep up the one big happy family front.
The professional dancers are all afraid of the bbc axe. We lost a lot of good dancers when the last one fell. I am also certain that they have a gagging clause in their contracts so you won't here any criticism from them. It is a pity Brendon is not still fighting to stay in because I think he would be too passionate to keep quiet about an injustice like this Ann debacle.
I had hoped Ann would go last night and I am extremely shocked that she is still in. I will no longer watch the show as she has ruined it for me. Please note bbc, those voting for Ann do not represent the views of a nation!!
Originally Posted by RubySparkle:
“Oh dear I get so sick of ann supporters saying this. Yes its entertainment, but the entertainment is that these celebrities learn a new dance every week and whoever dances best gets the highest score, and whoever the public enjoys the most they vote for. The celebs go on the show because they want to learn to dance. Thats the name of the game. Can you honestly say you enjoy ann's performances the most every week? Maybe you do, but you just said that you vote for her to get to the judges.
The judges are there for a reason - to judge the dancing. They won't change that for you. So there isn't much point voting for the one that doesn't even try just to try to make them change their purpose on the show because they won't.
By all means vote for ann if she genuinely entertains you the most, but I do think its a bit sad that people waste their money voting for her to try to get to the judges. Very odd”
“Oh dear I get so sick of ann supporters saying this. Yes its entertainment, but the entertainment is that these celebrities learn a new dance every week and whoever dances best gets the highest score, and whoever the public enjoys the most they vote for. The celebs go on the show because they want to learn to dance. Thats the name of the game. Can you honestly say you enjoy ann's performances the most every week? Maybe you do, but you just said that you vote for her to get to the judges.
The judges are there for a reason - to judge the dancing. They won't change that for you. So there isn't much point voting for the one that doesn't even try just to try to make them change their purpose on the show because they won't.
By all means vote for ann if she genuinely entertains you the most, but I do think its a bit sad that people waste their money voting for her to try to get to the judges. Very odd”
That totally explains the judges marking of Scott this week then.
If Ann's dancing genuinely entertains you, then presumably you are among those who would buy tickets to watch the Elephant Man, or the lunatics in Bedlam.
The games in ancient Rome were FULL of the Great (Roman) Public watching "entertainment"! Quite legally, too.
Just because one CAN do something doesn't make it admirable.
JJ
The games in ancient Rome were FULL of the Great (Roman) Public watching "entertainment"! Quite legally, too.
Just because one CAN do something doesn't make it admirable.
JJ
Originally Posted by jjackson42:
“If Ann's dancing genuinely entertains you, then presumably you are among those who would buy tickets to watch the Elephant Man, or the lunatics in Bedlam.
The games in ancient Rome were FULL of the Great (Roman) Public watching "entertainment"! Quite legally, too.
Just because one CAN do something doesn't make it admirable.
JJ”
“If Ann's dancing genuinely entertains you, then presumably you are among those who would buy tickets to watch the Elephant Man, or the lunatics in Bedlam.
The games in ancient Rome were FULL of the Great (Roman) Public watching "entertainment"! Quite legally, too.
Just because one CAN do something doesn't make it admirable.
JJ”
It is not admirable to be so condescending, superior and patronising either.
Originally Posted by telly fan:
“I really don't understand the thinking behind voting for Anne as some kind of protest against the judges. I would have thought the only reason to vote would be because you want to see that person dance again but everyone to their own I guess.
I don't see how any of this gets to the judges they are over marking some and under marking others but we all have our faves so are also biased in our thinking. How does voting for Anne change this?”
“I really don't understand the thinking behind voting for Anne as some kind of protest against the judges. I would have thought the only reason to vote would be because you want to see that person dance again but everyone to their own I guess.
I don't see how any of this gets to the judges they are over marking some and under marking others but we all have our faves so are also biased in our thinking. How does voting for Anne change this?”
Totally agree with this I think it is very childish but nothing surprises me anymore.
And of course the other performers arent going to say anything against her, remember when James Jordan made the comment about other people being in and not deserving it, what a backlash there was! There were calls for his being sacked and the comment Alesha made against Craig still being in. They're being paid to do a job and have to smile and get on with it.
I also get annoyed with this failure to combine entertainment and good dancing. If I wanted a comedy turn I'd watch a comedy show and not have to watch two buffoons clowning around the stage. It would be human nature for the other contenders to seethe inwardly at the lack of improvement when they are rehearsing their socks off week after week and get criticised for wrong hand placement when all Ann does is turn up and get told how funny she is and how she made them laugh and give her a four or five.
Originally Posted by sparky2010:
“That is exactly my reason for voting for her. If they actually had a sense of humour and realised this is a light entertainment show not a professional dancing competition then the general public would get bored. I am very happy that Ann is not going to quit. Why should she?”
“That is exactly my reason for voting for her. If they actually had a sense of humour and realised this is a light entertainment show not a professional dancing competition then the general public would get bored. I am very happy that Ann is not going to quit. Why should she?”
But for the first few years of this show - until they brought in John Sargeant - it was a dancing and light entertainment show. It is possible for it to be both you know. I cannot stand compartmentalisation!
I don't expect her to quit - she couldn't care less that better dancers are being knocked out. She has a hide of a rhinocerous and the dancing skills to match!
Originally Posted by Tommo781:
“It is not admirable to be so condescending, superior and patronising either.”
“It is not admirable to be so condescending, superior and patronising either.”
*sigh* I know - my humility is my greatest fault!
JJ
Not so much STOP complaining as WHY BOTHER complaining?
She must be getting lots of votes. That's the system.
Plenty of people probably think she's just a harmless old biddy. That Catherine Tait grandmother character is considered funny by a lot of people and she's vile!
Getting on a bit changes you from a nasty piece of work to a comedy crusty.
I have 'enjoyed' some of Ann's dances but wouldn't vote for her. Heck, plenty of people have. Let's live with it.
She must be getting lots of votes. That's the system.
Plenty of people probably think she's just a harmless old biddy. That Catherine Tait grandmother character is considered funny by a lot of people and she's vile!
Getting on a bit changes you from a nasty piece of work to a comedy crusty.
I have 'enjoyed' some of Ann's dances but wouldn't vote for her. Heck, plenty of people have. Let's live with it.
Originally Posted by ESPIONdansant:
“I have 'enjoyed' some of Ann's dances but wouldn't vote for her. Heck, plenty of people have. Let's live with it.”
“I have 'enjoyed' some of Ann's dances but wouldn't vote for her. Heck, plenty of people have. Let's live with it.”
Agree. I have said similar on other threads. I can't imagine why another one was even started.
Originally Posted by jjackson42:
“If Ann's dancing genuinely entertains you, then presumably you are among those who would buy tickets to watch the Elephant Man, or the lunatics in Bedlam.
The games in ancient Rome were FULL of the Great (Roman) Public watching "entertainment"! Quite legally, too.
Just because one CAN do something doesn't make it admirable.
JJ”
“If Ann's dancing genuinely entertains you, then presumably you are among those who would buy tickets to watch the Elephant Man, or the lunatics in Bedlam.
The games in ancient Rome were FULL of the Great (Roman) Public watching "entertainment"! Quite legally, too.
Just because one CAN do something doesn't make it admirable.
JJ”
I'm amazed you are even bothering to watch a light entertainment programme, let alone comment on it, it would appear to be beneath your obvious high standards.
Originally Posted by dome:
“I'm amazed you are even bothering to watch a light entertainment programme, let alone comment on it, it would appear to be beneath your obvious high standards.”
“I'm amazed you are even bothering to watch a light entertainment programme, let alone comment on it, it would appear to be beneath your obvious high standards.”
We all have to make sacrifices in these difficult times!
JJ
Originally Posted by Dorabella14:
“1. I watched what he was saying, both into and off mike, up on the Tessanine.”
“1. I watched what he was saying, both into and off mike, up on the Tessanine.”
And what exactly was he saying? What did you lip-read as his off-mike utterances?
Quote:
“2.
You don't seriously imagine that any pro or celeb still in the competiton would dare say a word against the Widdy, do you? That would certainly lose them votes. I have a very good imagination - so I can only imagine how they are fuming inside. it's speculation, not a claim; just like so many other opinions posted on these boards.”
“2.
You don't seriously imagine that any pro or celeb still in the competiton would dare say a word against the Widdy, do you? That would certainly lose them votes. I have a very good imagination - so I can only imagine how they are fuming inside. it's speculation, not a claim; just like so many other opinions posted on these boards.”
So what to me came across as a factual statement is purely speculative with a hint of imagination. Not much evidence really then, so glad that you have clarified that.
As for Brendan on Alan Titchmarsh - one pro, no longer in the competition, and with a reputation for being outspoken, but says little on this occasion and "almost nods". Again, hardly a firm basis for stating that Anton is "getting alot of flak from his colleagues", other than thinking that Brendan might agree that Ann should no longer be in the competition.
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