what annoys you more - judges overmarking or public keeping poor couples in

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Tall Paul

29-11-2010

Originally Posted by footygirl:
“One thing I will say about Craig - he looks genuinally happy for whoever wins it. Maybe he takes the view that whoever wins is the public choice and that is what counts”

Craig is the most mature judge of all, simple as that.

footygirl

29-11-2010

Originally Posted by Tall Paul:
“Craig is the most mature judge of all, simple as that.”

He has come a long way since series one - still critical but humerous with it

Tall Paul

29-11-2010

Originally Posted by footygirl:
“He has come a long way since series one - still critical but humerous with it”

That is what I like about him, the fact that he is commited to his job and not for money like the others are.

ianswaiting

30-11-2010

Originally Posted by Veri:
“Most of the so-called "over-marking" isn't over-marking at all.

It's just a judge using a 9, for example, to say "better than the ones I gave 8", rather than marking too high on some imaginary absolute scale.

It is at least very rare for a judge to use a mark that couldn't be justified as a legitimate relative mark, even if popular opinion in a forum disagrees with the mark.

It is also, imo, libel to accuse judges of giving marks (that they don't genuinely believe in) as a way to protect a "favourite".

The use of a forum to post libellous accusations bothers me more than the alleged over-marking.”

Wow

A voice of reason on the forum" *pinches self to make sure awake*

I don't believe the judges have "favourites". They are just intelligent enough to be able to recognise who the better dancers are. If the public have a 'favourite' who isn't one of the better dancers and who is, therefore, always scored lower by the judges, it is easier to accuse the judges of having 'favourites' than it is to accept that maybe the public haven't chosen wisely.

This week's leaderboard:

Pamela
Kara
Matt
Scott
Patsy
Gavin
She Who Must Not Be Named

Personally, I would have Kara and Matt the other way around but either is perfectly defensible and the overall leaderboard positions are pretty much spot on irrespective of the individual scores, despite the ridiculous overmarking of Gavin and She Who Must Not Be Named.

marinamau

30-11-2010

I am annoyed at both, but in principle I find worst the over scoring. It does no one any benefit.

Stockingfiller

30-11-2010

Overmarking annoys me most. The giving of two nines to Scott when he had to be dragged around by his neck, twice was one of the most blatant bits of 'managing' the scoreboard I've ever seen on Strictly. Disgraceful.
Similarly, Len's seven a few weeks back for Ann, for 'entertainment' I just wish that the medling would stop and that we could just see the dancing and some unbiased, rational marking.

mindyann

30-11-2010

Originally Posted by ianswaiting:
“Wow A voice of reason on the forum" *pinches self to make sure awake*

I don't believe the judges have "favourites". They are just intelligent enough to be able to recognise who the better dancers are. If the public have a 'favourite' who isn't one of the better dancers and who is, therefore, always scored lower by the judges, it is easier to accuse the judges of having 'favourites' than it is to accept that maybe the public haven't chosen wisely.

This week's leaderboard:

Pamela
Kara
Matt
Scott
Patsy
Gavin
She Who Must Not Be Named

Personally, I would have Kara and Matt the other way around but either is perfectly defensible and the overall leaderboard positions are pretty much spot on irrespective of the individual scores, despite the ridiculous overmarking of Gavin and She Who Must Not Be Named.”

I guess that just highlights a problem - what is it that people remember, scoreboard position or individual scores?

In terms of points awared over the series, Scott (299) is lagging behind both Kara (305) and Matt (303) and is actually tied with Pamela (299) but that isn't what people have at the front of their mind.

What most people remember is that Scott has already had a couple of duff weeks, but been given a leniency that other dancers would be hard pressed to match and even after Natalie had to stop back seat driving and use him as her own personal push-me pull-you he is given individual scores that are seemingly over-egged. Sadly, leaderboard position versus 2 9's will always have the 2 9's as the main focus.

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