Need a little help here friends.
Trying to put a file onto DVD disc. I put the Humax Foxsat into Non Freesat mode, then reboot. Select the program I wish to record, and hit the red record button. When I reach the end, I hit the square stop button. I then transfer the recording onto the external Hard drive, I then transfer the .ts file onto my computer. The .ts file will then play using the VLC player.
I open VideoReDo TVSuite (Latest Vesion) click Open Video, select the .ts file and I get 'Error opening File, unable to open XXX.ts file.
Do I need to alter any VideoReDo Settings?

I have tried different .ts files and I get the same error message every time.
VideoReDo TV Suite is a full retail version.
Thanks.

You need the beta H264 version for HD material

http://www.videoredo.net/msgBoard/sh...ad.php?t=15759

Thank you Graham for the reply.
The version I have got is Version 4.20.5.600 and it says H264 over the Open Video Button. I may be wrong but I think that it is the latest version. Am I wrong?

4.20.6.610

http://www.digital-digest.com/softwa...uite_H264.html

or

http://www.videoredo.net/msgBoard/sh...ad.php?t=24328

Thanks Graham for the link to the latest version of VideoReDo.

Downloaded VideRedDo from the link and installed as a Trial version. Got the same error message 'Unable to open File'

Should it open with a trial version?

The recording names that you get when recording in non-freesat mode have an odd non printing characters in the name. Completely rename the filename and it should load OK.

Will Windows Live Movie Maker for Windows 7 not also do this for free?

Yes and No if the OP has Windows 7 Home Premium or better it will read the files.

It's very slow to chop out multiple sections, It's very very slow to output and only writes WMV files (It appears to recode the entire movie).

Videredo is lightning fast as it only recodes at edits and outputs a file format that av2hdr will handle to rewrite edited material back to the hdr.

Thanks Graham, Renamed the file and VideoReDo now accepts the file.

Your help is much appreciated.

Have you tried the new version though- it only came out a few weeks ago and I've heard it's quite good.

Using latest 2011 version of Windows Movie Maker

1920 x 1080 H264 clip from ITV1-HD 1:44:16 long

Chopped out 9 frames to create 1:44:07

Videoredo writes edited .ts in 5 seconds (in original format)

Windows Movie Maker (only option is WMV) takes 2 min 40 sec. Thats over 30 times slower. Heaven knows how long a 1Hr programme would take and thats with just a straight cut.

Thanks to all the help from this forum, I have finally managed to burn a file onto a DVD disc, and I am very pleased and amazed at the quality of the DVD when played on my DVD player. I never expected it to be as good as it is, equally as good as a bought DVD.

Are you sure that is right Graham, I assume MM allows for making of DVDs which presumably must be written in MPEG2, are you sure recode to WMV is not just the default setting and it can be changed somewhere?

It's the only HD output option basically just asking it to chop out 10 frames and output it in the same format. The source material is HD mpeg4 to convert it to mpeg2 SD would take ages. The query was about editing h264 material. I will try a mpeg2 file.

Videoredo tvsuite can burn edited mpeg2 data from editing to completed DVD in around 15mins. Not tried Moviemaker to do this but it clearly lacks smart encoding. Tried DVD flick once it took at 1.5hrs to create a dvd from already compliant mpeg2 source material.

Because videoredo only recodes at edits, it's output is the same as the input so the resulting dvd is identical to the original source quality.

Copied a 1 Hr Sd programme from hdr CH5 1.62GB

Loaded into videoredo tvsuite, edited out the first ads (about 2 mins). Selected burn DVD folder (no menus). Processing time 2 min 3 sec.

Loaded same clip in windows moviemaker, edited out first ads (took me about 10 mins to find the cut points). Selected make DVD, programme insists on making a mkv file. Processing time for this 19M 25sec. At this point the programme allows you to burn this file to a dvd blank. There is no iso image or folder options. Frankly it's a load of junk.

Videoredo tvsuite is a Ferrari, windows live move maker is a snail . It's probably OK for uploading tiny movies to you tube etc otherwise forget it.

grahamthomson wrote


I may be doing something wrong when using VideoReDo. I cannot burn a .ts file, I have to convert it to a Mpeg file before I get the option to create a DVD, and this can take considerable time. You didn't mention this stage. What am I doing wrong?

Are you trying to create a DVD from a HD source or a SD one ?

You should be able to output HD as .ts or .mts.

You can't burn HD footage to a normal DVD it has to be downsampled to mpeg2 720 x 576 which takes a long time. SD source is already mpeg2 so conversion is super rapid. The HD version will ultimately be able to burn HD material to a bluray or dvd blank but you will need a bluray player to play it back.

If you want to archive to dvd record in SD it's a lot simpler.

I have only tried a HD source. I gather from your post that there is a difference. I didn't know that. So does the Humax HD save SD source material as .mpeg files?
Obviously it does according to your reply.
Thanks for the information.
Last edited by Altone : 01-12-2010 at 20:35

All digital transmissions use mpeg to compress the video data.

SD channels use mpeg2 (same as DVD) an older compression system as used on DVD. HD channels use mpeg4 as used on bluray (a variation called H264) this is a lot more efficient than mpeg2.

The file extension does not indicate the type of compression used merely the format used to transmit the embedded data (normally known as the container).

Broadcast data uses a .ts (transport stream) format and this can and does include other information other than the video/audio data).

DVD uses a different container known as programme stream normally within a .mpg container. The actual video data remains the same hence the lossless conversion.

A DVD has the programme stream files contained in yet another file format with a .vob format and you guessed it together with other info

All the info required to make a dvd play on a normal dvd player is contained a single folder called video_ts.

In this folder is .vob files with the video/audio information, .ifo files which contain the dvd navigation details like menus and chapter info and .bak files which give a degree of data redundancy.

Videoredo can open a video_ts folder or individual .vob files (and join them into one big .mpg file if you need this) and save them as one file

If I can add to Graham's answer:

If you want to edit and burn SD to DVD it's very straightforward in Videoredo. Edit video, then add to DVD and burn. The DVD can contain more than one editing project as you probably know. It's all lossless, mpeg2 to mpeg2 (the standard used by all SD broadcasts), which VRD recognises despite the .ts extension, which as Graham says is effectively just a container, so it's very fast.

If you want to edit and burn HD to DVD you have to reencode H.264 to mpeg2, which, while it's a brilliant piece of programming in Videoredo, takes a long time as you say. Currently VRD can't do anything with H.264 except output (hopefully!) frame accurate edited files, whether they be reencoded to another format such as mpeg2 or left in native h.264. BUT if you do the latter you can use a free program called tsmuxergui to add the necessary files to make a folder suitable for burning to an AVCHD disk, which is in essence a high definition DVD. DVD burners can write AVCHDs but can't read them. Odd, I know. You have to have a blu ray player capable of reading AVCHDs to play them back. (The PS3 does this, for instance.) The AVCHD folder can be burnt to DVD using the free program imgburn. H.264 to AVCHD is lossless and again is done in minutes rather than hours.

Using this method you get one HD programme per disk with no menus. Given HD bitrates this is probably all that you need since you won't get more than say one film on a disk anyway, and sometimes not even that. If you want to be more sophisticated there is another free program called multiavchd which allows you to compile H.264 clips and add menus, but it was still a bit buggy last time I looked. It had great potential though for specific applications.

You can play back the video content burned on a AVCHD DVD on a PC disc by navigating to the stream folder and playing the .mts files directly.

Thanks again for all the help and information.

Now it is easy to get big files off the HDR with ftp I thought I would give VideoReDo another try.

On HD .ts files such as Indiana Jones or Point Break I have just tried to trim off the lead in rubbish and recording overrun and save again as a .ts

However resulting output files go pixelated all the time

I have tried playing with various settings but the output is no better

File sizes are about the same so no major conversion is taking place.

Any thoughts please.

Automan.

Try outputting as mts. Had no problems at all doing it this way.