That could be Ann's theme for "Movie Week" on Saturday.

Their dance could conclude with Anton driving his motorbike into a ditch pursued by a machine-gun toting Ann dressed as a German stormtrooper.

What dance are they doing? What could go before the motorbike finale? Not that it matters, of course...

Indeed, it's tough to tell which dance Ann is not attempting to do, but apparently it's the American Smooth. I must say I am looking forward to the three lifts (not).

Your summary of where we have got to on this thread is masterly, Three Left Feet.

The Great Escape

Haven't you realised by now it is in Ann's contract that she does not move?
She will be dressed in yards of fabric to impersonate the stationary Swiss-German border wire. The barbs will be verbal.

Anton du McQueen trying to do an Evel Knieval will be stranded on top of the barbs (ouch) and his arm and leg movements to music will bring the house down.

A fantastic and well written post

what a wondeful first post

Quite.
Nasty bit of work who trades on her even nastier record.
And bone idle.
Still, some think otherwise.
Proves there's one born every minute.

Thank you!

I could be wrong, but I think that no-one on this thread, has yet, has said that she's not homophobic.

Is that right?

Excellent post - agree with all of this

you are infact correct

I think that there was some semantics about the use of phobe/phobia but I think you may be right.

Oh Im so annoyed I went to bed last night before I saw this post...the irony is just delicious!

I would have thought AW would have been against 'Rampant' Druids...after all, such behaviour is shameful and should never be performed in front of the Pope? Perhaps she is doing a Pagan Movie AS this week in support of these poor druids?

Cervical cancer is not just caused by HPV transmitted through unprotected sex. There are many other causes of it.

Raising the age of consent for all to 18 I could support, to 21 is just ridiculous. Have you ever been to university? Try stopping all those drunken undergrads from boning each other, it would never happen.

What this country needs (good lord, here I go) is better standards of sex education and contraceptive services for the young and to reduce the smear age back down...perhaps to 21.

Yes, but so what?

Plenty of people are still voting for her even so...

OK, so we've had 260+ posts, and no-one's said "no, she's not" yet.

So, this is a general call to people - if you want to claim that Ann is not homophobic, please do so.

Otherwise, at some point I think we must assume that people believe she is.

But if you do that then you will take away the innocence of childhood from the kiddies. Funny how other countires manage to educate their children successfully.

"So what"?

That's the question on the thread. That's what the topic is about.

As I've said, many many times already, I'm simply trying to find out whether people think Ann is homophobic or not.

And on the evidence, so far, it appears that people think she is.

Unless someone would like to state otherwise?

Indeed, we must maintain innocence aka keeping kiddies in the dark until they wonder why their abdomen swells so much and kicks as if they have become Sigourney Weaver!

One of my most vivid childhood memories was asking my wonderfully frank mother was sex was when I was 7 and she was as honest as you can be to a child. One of the funniest memories I have (as I didnt believe her at the time).

Anyway, Im derailing the topic. Back to the important stuff....those poor discriminated-against Rampant Druids. I just do not know how they cope!

I think so!

I think there are two types of homophobia (you picked me up on this earlier in the thread because I hadn't been clear):

Private: whereby you hold personal convictions - perhaps religious, for example - which make you consider homosexuality as wrong or less acceptable than heterosexuality. Ann fits into this type of homophobia.

Public/statist: whereby you believe that government should intervene and legislate to the norm that homosexuality is wrong or less acceptable than heterosexuality. Ann also fits into this type of homophobia.

On a personal/private level, I object to both. On a public/statist level, I believe Ann is entitled to her personal/private convictions and also to express them, but not to attempt to influence others via legislation. I also see Ann as hypocritical on this issue, since she is a small-state politician but has made an exception for her own private views and become a big-state politician over the issue of homosexuality.

I get that Ann's homophobia or otherwise is the subject of the thread, so I'll express the "so what?" differently...

What are you going to do if the the conclusion is "yes"?

How would that differ from if the conclusion was "no"?

Or is this simply academic research, to be filed away for potential use in the future - for purposes currently unknown - once concluded?

... OK - I'll bite...

I don't know whether not Ann is homophobic. I've never spoken to her about homosexuality. In fact, I've never spoken to her.

My interpretation of homophobia is someone who has a selective aversion and/or an extremely negative reaction to gay people and their relationships.

Now before peeps get all apoplectic... to clarify:

Yes - I'm aware of her voting record (it's been mentioned enough!) and I've read all that has been said on the matter on these threads (I've even gone as far to read-up on section 28, the exact wording and the general history of the amendment to the 'Act' of '68. As far as I can tell the amendment precluded the specific promotion of homosexuality and homosexual relationships in schools.

Also - voting against lowering the age of consent for homosexual relationships... this again is tricky, as I (as I work in the field of sexual health - sort of) would actually prefer to see the age of consent raised for all (18 is a good age - if you want to know my reasons then pm me as it involves science, therefore is not great fodder for an internet thread about a TV programme). It's not. If you're genuinely interested then I'm happy to converse privately about it.

Anyhow - It seems that Ann isn't selectively opposed to homosexuality. Moreover she's has an aversion to all relationships which are not classed as a religious marriage. These include, but not exclusively, homosexual relationships.

You could argue that her stance is homophobic because what she's averse to include homosexual relationships, but on the other hand, she may be equally averse to my own relationship type (heterosexual, sexually active, using contraception and living together but not married). Therefore she's not selectively homophobic...

Until I speak to the woman, I don't know.

As far as I can tell.

You are clearly a danger to the fabric of society.

I take it you weren't actually sexually active as you typed your last post. If you were, then can I commend you on the lucidity of your argument and your typing skills in the circumstances?

Based on her voting, she may be homophobic. But personally I blame more mind-washing by religion.

What I find more interesting is that she has never married, or had children, and when asked if she had ever had a sexual relationship with another person she replied "Be careful, that's the way you get sued".

If Widdecome was a male 'celebrity' then no doubt there would be threads on this forum questioning whether or not she was a closet case.

I shall start a new thread


If "no", I will not start a new thread

Ummm, that's it really.


Blimey, I dunno.

It's a discussion forum, I thought it would be interesting to occasionally discuss stuff. There's no real "meaning" to any of this stuff - I wasn't aware that was a requirement...

The get so frustrated that twice a year they make love to rocks at Stonehenge.