How do we know what polls and opinions other contestants have been asked to take part in?
Has any of the other competitors been asked if they are on any steering comities for the C of E and voted for or against women Bishops?
We know AW opinions and votes because it is in public records. If we are going to form a witch hunt against 1 competitor then I think we should have everyone's records to compare.

She has the right to have opinions but when those opinions affect the rights of sections of society then we have the right to make her (or her supporters) justify them. Many notorious people in the past had 'opinions' but I bet they wouldn't be allowed to express them today without censure.

And I stand by my interpretation.


Yes, a seemingly childish attempt to get back at others, a simple case of playground retaliation. I guess the phrase "two wrongs to not make a right" is something that you might have heard in the past.



Nothing to do with this thread, that is just a rather weak attempt to justify yourself and this rather nasty thread.

I have stated my opinion,.I'm not going to get drawn further into such a discussion. I have already added a late edit to my earlier post which sums it up:

"As an attempt at character assassination this thread seems to rank with the best. As another Ann hate thread, it's up there with quite a few others. But in my view such nasty threads have no place in this forum, and have no relevance to SCD itself.,"


All in my opinion, and one that I have a right to offer

I look forward to your research it could prove interesting.

The answer to the opening post question is an unqualified yes, she's also a smug,, humourless, bullying old cumedgeon, other than that I quite like her

Yay, post 80 do I get a prize
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Don't participate if it bothers you that much.

Ann is a miserable old trout who can't dance to save her life. Whether she's homophobic or not is difficult to prove, but it's certainly clear womens' and gay rights are not high on her agenda.

can I just check - is this a 10 minute argument or the full half hour??

In answer to the question Is Ann anti gay? Maybe Julian Clarys comment 'that he doesn't like her because he can't seperate her from her politics' gives an insight.

None of the other contestants voted in parliament to try and restrict my right to choose, to have an unequal age of consent or against the repeal of section 28.

I however wouldn't judge Ann on what she'd be like in a soap or on Countryfile.

She'd make a cracking scrum half though

Yes, which is one of the reasons I'm so baffled by her support.

Flounces have a finite number I think!

And like all art, there are those who like it, and those who find it ridiculous.

She was elected by her constituents, who after her voting in parliament still re-elected her. She represented the views of her electorate.

I haven't had much to say about Ann but admit that I'm not sympathetic to most of Ann's expressed politcal views. However to be fair, it isn't always safe to draw broad conclusions from how someone has voted, since there may be all sorts of factors influencing their vote. In particular my guess is that Ann is against an age of consent of 16 years for anyone, irrespective of their sexuality. She may be well be against any teaching of sexual relationships to school children, other than the 'say no' type. Also people can be complicated and sometimes contradictory in their behaviour. (A friend of mine has strict religious views and has interpreted the bible in a particular way meaning she is quite homophobic in theory. Nevertheless she has several gay friends. )

Ann seems to be an uncomplicated person and so the above considerations probably don't apply to her. It's just that if you start looking beyond someone's participation in Strictly and make moral judgements about their right to be there it all gets a bit complicated and heavy although, since Ann's views had influence on legislation, I can see where people are coming from to some extent.

More of a turn off for me is the diminishing number of steps in Ann's routines (as Karen pointed out on ITT) and her confidence that she and Anton are 'hilarious'. However her continued presence isn't a big deal for me. She only takes up a few minutes of the show, and there has been some weird fascination in seeing Anton dancing solo the last few weeks.

Maybe her supporters are all homophobic.
Or
Maybe her supporters aren't remotely bothered about what she thinks about homosexuality.

Well, I'd say that each of those topics deserve a full airing.

I might even say they all deserve separate threads.

I think there's a difference between fearing something and not approving of it but that is just semantics, I agree. Either way she's participating in bigotry.

Well, presumably that's because she was, you know, an elected representative?

Just a thought.


You're calling her a witch?

That seems a bit harsh.

Maybe there is something to be said about those who appear to choose to use the words of The 9th
Marquess of Queensberry.

Umm, you realise you've simply said "I believe what I believe" - you've not actually responded with anything apart from that?


Actually no. "To not make a right" what?


It's a discussion thread. This is a discussion forum. I posed a question, For, umm, discussion. I'm not sure how much clearer I can make it...

But if you can find anywhere on this thread where I've attacked anyone, please point it out and I shall apologise.



Oh, go on, tell us again how you're going away and never coming back, We've not had a good flounce for ages.


Why is a question now seen as "assassination"?


Absolutely, and I defend your right to do so.

However, opinions only gain credibility with some evidence to back them up.

Pah, this is a serious thread you know.

Maybe there is. But what?

Ann is quite bigoted. I think she's entitled to her views, even though I don't agree with what she stands for.

I think the main issue is that she now lacks any credibility whatsoever. She has sold any dignity she had and I doubt anyone will be able to take her seriously again. I really don't know why she agreed to do the show in the first place.

This is one disgusting thread launched for yet another personal attack because people vote for her. They homophobic too whatever that means? Further comment would probably earn me a trip to the Gulag.
AW is a Christian with a code based on the bible and lives her life according to that code. If you don't like it tough there is room in the UK for both you and her.