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Old 01-12-2010, 18:01
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I think O2 must be trying for the worst network of the year award. I just tried dialing 1471 to see if there were any missed calls while my phone was switched off. There was a message from O2 saying this service had now ended. Keep it up O2 you are really going downhill fast.
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Old 01-12-2010, 18:31
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I was also disappointed to see this.

I'm not too sure why they had to drop it.
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Old 01-12-2010, 18:56
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I didn't even know there was such a thing! Do any of the other networks have it? Orange have a message saying to use the phone.
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Old 01-12-2010, 19:05
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I didn't even know there was such a thing! Do any of the other networks have it? Orange have a message saying to use the phone.
Vodafone (at the moment) still do 1471 and *#147# last caller . They and O2 were the only networks which offered the service.
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Old 01-12-2010, 19:07
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O2 inherited it from the BT Cellnet days (BT offered the service to match their landline packages).
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Old 01-12-2010, 19:33
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I wasn't even aware they had 1471. My phone is never off anyway. Oh well I guess I won't miss it
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Old 01-12-2010, 19:54
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3 just texts you if you miss a call while your phone is off and you would have it in your missed calls list if your phone was on, same as Orange.

Not sure if O2 do this, maybe that's what they are putting in place instead.
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Old 01-12-2010, 19:57
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You can have missed call alerts on O2 now, but it will turn off your voicemail altogether. (Unlike Orange who utilise both at the same time).

Just call 1710 from your O2 phone
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Old 01-12-2010, 20:03
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Apparently they turned it off because hardly anyone used it. (or even knew it existed) It had quite an overhead on the network.
I doubt it will be sorely missed.
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Old 01-12-2010, 20:34
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Apparently they turned it off because hardly anyone used it. (or even knew it existed) It had quite an overhead on the network.
I doubt it will be sorely missed.
Where'd you read that?
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Old 01-12-2010, 20:37
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still works on my landline but no longer on my tesco mobile
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Old 01-12-2010, 20:41
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Where'd you read that?
You'll open a can of worms if you ever ask him for a source on the things he posts.

I got accused twice by prking of being a google researcher / poster as I like to be able to look things up online and find a reputable source like a news article or something for my information, but prking just 'knows' these things and you should not ask for verification or source.

He says he quote "talks to people" for his information (in other words heresay) and often cannot provide anything verifiable.
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Old 01-12-2010, 20:43
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You can have missed call alerts on O2 now, but it will turn off your voicemail altogether. (Unlike Orange who utilise both at the same time).

Just call 1710 from your O2 phone
Indeed it sends a text telling you of a missed call and dial 1760 to switch it off.
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Old 01-12-2010, 20:52
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You'll open a can of worms if you ever ask him for a source on the things he posts.

I got accused twice by prking of being a google / wikipedia poster as I like to be able to look things up online and find a reputable source like a news article or something for my information, but prking just 'knows' these things and you should not ask for verification or source.

He says he quote "talks to people" for his information (in other words heresay) and often cannot provide anything verifiable or tangible.
I see.
I was just wondering as i'd have thought that O2 would have announced it (at least to their own customers) in advance of it happening, and then i'd have seen O2 users posting it on here.
The fact that no-one (that i've seen) has done so, makes me think that they've quietly scrapped it
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Old 01-12-2010, 21:05
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I think it's fair to say that it wasn't used by the majority and probably won't be missed that much.

It's a shame though that they cant do missed call alerts unless voicemail is turned off, that makes them the only network that can't do that now I think.

Vodafone - implemented in 2005,
Orange have done it for years,
3 introduced it a few months ago
T-mobile - I believe they do it?
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Old 01-12-2010, 21:14
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My nan uses 1471 all the time. She can never see the screen and is frightened by what she calls complicated menus.

I imagine she'll be quite upset about this.

Voicemail is what, 15p a call?
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Old 01-12-2010, 21:26
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I think it's fair to say that it wasn't used by the majority and probably won't be missed that much.

It's a shame though that they cant do missed call alerts unless voicemail is turned off, that makes them the only network that can't do that now I think.

Vodafone - implemented in 2005,
Orange have done it for years,
3 introduced it a few months ago
T-mobile - I believe they do it?
T-Mobile require your voicemail to be off.
If the mobile is off/in a bad area, the caller hears a message asking if they would like to send a 'missed call' text to the mobile.
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Old 01-12-2010, 22:22
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Apparently they turned it off because hardly anyone used it. (or even knew it existed) It had quite an overhead on the network.
I doubt it will be sorely missed.
How does that make any sense? Surely it just uses the same capacity as one phone call does? Or are you talking about how it interacts with the network's systems to work out who called last?

If it's the former, then nobody using it should mean that there isn't that much strain on the network!
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Old 01-12-2010, 22:35
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It'll be more to do with removing a service that doesn't make them any money.
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Old 01-12-2010, 22:40
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It'll be more to do with removing a service that doesn't make them any money.
Most services for the blind/hard of seeing don't make money.
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Old 01-12-2010, 22:54
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It'll be more to do with removing a service that doesn't make them any money.
Yep I'm sure that's right.
Most services for the blind/hard of seeing don't make money.
If enough people complain they might relent? I doubt very many will though. But maybe worth speaking/writing to them?
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Old 02-12-2010, 06:52
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How does that make any sense? Surely it just uses the same capacity as one phone call does? Or are you talking about how it interacts with the network's systems to work out who called last?

If it's the former, then nobody using it should mean that there isn't that much strain on the network!
What is that argument based on? Your intimate day to day knowledge of how the network works?
Somehow I doubt it.
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Old 02-12-2010, 07:11
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You'll open a can of worms if you ever ask him for a source on the things he posts.

I got accused twice by prking of being a google researcher / poster as I like to be able to look things up online and find a reputable source like a news article or something for my information, but prking just 'knows' these things and you should not ask for verification or source.

He says he quote "talks to people" for his information (in other words heresay) and often cannot provide anything verifiable.
So because there is no Google link available, you don't want to believe it.
That's fair enough. You should be sceptical, there is an awful lot of guff posted on here by people who have thought about something for all of five minutes.
But I'd hope you would also accept that there may be people on here who have real world knowledge that they want to share.
You should also accept that not everything has an online source.
Over the years I've seen this 'You can't provide a link, so it must be wrong' attitude many, many times (I was telneting over JANET before the Web was invented) but its the first time it's been directed at me. If you want me to be honest I find it a little amusing.
I have mentioned your use of google, because it seems to me that you consider it, at the least, a way of justifying your point of view. I think you give too much weight to things you read online, which is why I suggested that you talk to some real people involved in the industry.
I do like a good discussion, so I thank you for the opportunity.
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Old 02-12-2010, 07:53
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What is that argument based on? Your intimate day to day knowledge of how the network works?
Somehow I doubt it.
You attack his post but offer no explanation when that's all he was asking for! That's just smoke and mirrors, not sophistry.
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Old 02-12-2010, 08:43
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You attack his post but offer no explanation when that's all he was asking for! That's just smoke and mirrors, not sophistry.
He was commenting on my explanation!
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