I've been watching since the first series. Lying and cheating are, at most, incidental to winning. People have been fired for it. Several people have won without compromising their honour. When did Tim or Michelle ever lie?


I disagree. Even at this stage, each of them is unlikely to win. What's more important is the contacts they make in person, and how they come across on TV. Popularity in the house may not help you win (although it doesn't hurt to have allies in the boardroom), but it helps in life afterwards.

That's part of why they usually try to part on good terms with Lord Sugar ("Thank you for the opportunity" etc), and why they console the losers. When Melissa didn't, she got called on it in You're Fired, quite rightly.

If Liz has misplayed, that's why. She's made herself slightly less employable in the eyes of many people.

While that's true, that's not the whole story. They were fined £50 for being late, and they lost by £70. So, in fact, any of the items that we knew they bought at too much would have been enough to tip them over the edge, not just the truffles. Liz got the sewing machine at £57, while the other team got it at £35. Stella was mostly responsible for getting the tartan at £69, while the other team got it for £23. You can't say it was down to the truffles, when it could have been down to any of those items.

Come to that, while Laura was unquestionably wrong to come in at £200 (and both girls were wrong not to phone Liz), a big part of the reason they were talking that kind of money is because they were in a posh restaurant. Laura was right, they should have tried the East End, rather than phoning Gordon Ramsey. That's where they boys got their truffles from. So that was down to Stella. Although also partly Laura's fault for doing her usual "although you do whatever you want and I'll back you on that decision" ("please don't make me make any decision because I could then be held accountable for it in the boardroom, rather than using it as ammunition against you. I'll also whine on endlessly about it out of your earshot, but then be your best friend if we win the task") rather than putting her foot down a little more.

actually thought the whole girls' team were terrible last night and any of them would have deserved being sent home. the fact that Laura went based on past performance was probably easiest way to go in those circumstances. that said, i thought Liz's final comments were almost as shocking as Melissa's behaviour when she left!

Yes, she was disgusting in last nights show. Very over rated - she'll probably win.

at last a male with his brain actually in the right place

Statistics show that 99% of straight men disagree with DollyStanford's husband.

Since I've been watching only one person has ever been fired for an outright lie to Sir Alan and that was Jenny Celerier. Others have lied their absolute socks off, even saying 'I sell well' when you don't, is a lie. Lee McQueen, the winner of Series 4 lied on his CV and WON the bloody series....so perhaps liars do prosper??


Yeah, I think staying in with Sir Alan is pretty important, but where did I suggest it wasn't. I'm talking about the contestants in the house. All I'm saying is that when the series is over, they all go back to their lives, including the winner. Its possible you'll stay in touch with someone, maybe make a good friend - but the reason they went into the series was not to make friends, but to fight tooth and nail for a job, thats why, after a candidate has been instrumental in getting another fired, they always look guilty afterwards (most of the time) and apologise the second they are outside...because they know that first and foremost - the job is what matters. Business is ruthless, friendships are sorely secondary.

I agree about Allies for the boardroom though, but when you get to this point of the series, you look out for number 1

Although there were a lot of reasons for firing Syed in series 2, it seemed to me that his dishonest behaviour was a major part of why he finally went.


Saying "I sell well" is an opinion, which isn't the same as a lie even if it's mistaken. Candidates are often accused of lying in the boardroom when they merely forget or misspeak. Paloma was a rare case where we know because she admitted to it.

But I'm not saying they never lie, I'm saying it's not necessary for them to lie. It doesn't benefit them.


He didn't win because he lied. He won because he was the best candidate, and Lord Sugar was willing to overlook his lie. His dishonesty made it harder for him to win.


It's the same thing. They all expect to be high fliers in business, so they can all expect to meet each other again. Not just as friends, but in a professional capacity. Jenny C and Kristina even went into business together. Each candidate, if they are wise, will want to maintain a good working relationship with every other candidate. Screwing each other over for a prize you probably won't win anyway, isn't wise. It'll be remembered and held against you for the rest of your life. And not just by the candidates, either, but by everyone who watches the show.

I dispute that Lee was the best candidate. He was barely coherent! Claire was far, far better.

I would also like to dispute brangdon's comment. Claire was robbed.

Hateful, eye rolling cow....watching it again now