Those silly hissyfits towards Stella at the end were totally uncalled for. Very childish and bordering on spiteful. She didn't just do it in the cab but continued at the house in front of the others. I bet Sugar saw all that before making his decision and I will very surprised if Liz has won now, she has shown her true colours.

The others arent better than her. Stella really asked for it saying they didnt expect her back. She would have gone on at Liz anyway like she did at Stuart. Stella is very negative, and tries to get in before the others do. She may have a low opinion of herself, and uses this to cover it up.

I'm not sure but I don't think LS sees any of what goes on between the candidates in private before he makes his decisions. How could that work?

LudAl sees nothing of the footage, he only knows what Nick and Karren tell him and what the candidates tell him in the boardroom

I agree thats the impression the program gives, but then the program gives the impression that the candidates spend nearly three months filming - which is clearly not so.
I'd be suprised if Lordalun doesn't see some of the more pertinant footage shot following the candidates when not with Nick/Karren.

But Liz was practically begging for a fight with Stella back at the house.
Stella could quite easily have responded to Liz with "Well I'm sorry but you were a rubbish manager, deal with it", but she took a more dignified route by labelling it as a difference of opinion, which completely shot Liz down before she could even get started lol

He doesn't see any footage while the show is being filmed. He probably saw it for the first time this week.

That's too late for it to affect who reaches the final. It can still affect who wins (which isn't decided yet).


She was upset by what Stella said. It was hardly a big deal. Lee was worse with Sara and he still won. Stella herself was about as bad with Stuart.

What happens in the boardroom should stay in the boardroom IMO so in that respect I think Liz was a little bitchy to bring it up, especially in front of everyone?

Although Stella really doesn't seem to be liked? she even said it herself last night (when she came back after Laura was fired and apologised for still being there )

It was almost as if Stella had heard what Chris had said about her just a few minutes previous.

I wouldn't show-off if I got back from the boardroom but if I knew someone at the house was revelling in me getting the 'smug' expression off my face then I'd go back looking totally unfazed just to annoy them.

I think two endings are filmed though, and Sugar only decides on his winner shortly before the final is aired?

If that's the case, and Liz happnes to be in the final, clips that Sugar hasn't seen up until now may well influence who he picks as his next Apprentice.

i think you created an image of Liz to be some angelic figure,

She's not, she human, and above all else she's a businesswoman, I think she did good with how she handled stella, stella just tried to screw her over and blame liz for the failure of the task, while the PM does take ultimate responsibility in most tasks this was pretty much an individual task. And stella and laura's team messed up big time. What was Liz supposed to do over the phone.. Stella and Laura made a huge mess up of the task, bewing unwilling to haggle, undermining Laura in negotiations, not being personable and being too corporate in her interactions, if Stella came into my store, I would see a massive ££ sign over her head, and would sell to her for as much as I can. I sell computers, mainly online through my web store. I do get the occasional local buyer driving to my warehouse to collect and avoid p&p fees.

If stell came to me I would sell at RRP + try and upsell some extended warranty, insurance and accessories with it.

If Stuart and Chris came to my store I would probably have a laugh, give them a discount, and let them go off their way.

Having a personality, being likable is very important, I think jamie's technique of "having a story" was absolutely genius and it worked very well for them, even though Jame messup up in the task, incurred £150 worth of fines, and RRP costs, his strategy was sound.

It's not often that you get to be personable with a buyer, their approach of these ridiculously made up stories was a great way to connect with them, and allowed the retailers to be generous with the discounts.

Stella was too corporate, and IMO Stella has no chance of winning, I have my doubts about Laura, she failed as PM [she even reminded Alan of it in the boardroom, lol], she came back with £0 order book, but she's only 22, and I think she's more of a entreprenuer than Stella.


So.. to sum up, it was all Stella's fault, Liz did everything she could do, Stella had no business pointing the finger at Liz, Stella should have taken joint responsibility with Laura.

Liz needed to do what she did in order to make a point, so that Stella did not cross her again. and she made the point very well.

Actually, Liz grew on me uite a lot after that, before that I thought she was just a nice girl, whose good in business, but doesn't have the rough edge to not be taken advantage of. Liz demonstrated that she can stand up for herself as well.

Hi totalwise,

I don't think anyone is suggesting Liz didn't have a right to defend herself in the boardroom. It's the 'telling tales' to the others as soon as she walked into the house that made her look catty and overly sensitive and quite sly. That's the issue here.

And it's not true that Liz was blamless on the task. Did she come up with a negotiation strategy like the PM of the other team? No. Did she spend more than she should have done on certain items like Stella and Laura did? Yes. They were all responsible for the loss.

Liz didn't make her point well at all. OK...she had defended herself well in the boardroom but I believe she may have damaged her chances by being 'bitchy' back at the house.

I like both Liz and Stella, and think that they both deserve to get through to the final, but I must admit that I was disappointed in Liz last night and felt that Stella appeared the bigger person out of the two of them

Liz came across extremely childish. I thought Laura was the most childish until yesterdays show.

Little miss popular schoolgirl picking on someone when her friends had her back.

Liz came across as awful in yesterdays programme.

1) Her bitter comments to Stella Show she is incapable of accepting that others have the right to negative opinions of her.

2) She identified the truffle as potentially the most important aspect of the task but didn’t take responsibility for getting it herself. Clever move really she can pass the blame for it going wrong as it wasn't her deal.

3) She failed to work out a strategy in which the lowest priced products and fine would be left till last so they could concentrate on dealing with the important purchases first.

4) She failed to do a simple Google check on prices of the products.

Her comments to Stella in the house were just wrong and looked almost sinister. I could not work with her and I suspect she will get caught in the interview section as she trips herself up on occasion.

From what was said in the boardroom, she did have a strategy. She gave priority to some items and then looked for other items nearby. I couldn't tell whether it was the highest priced items or the hardest to acquire that she gave priority to. In a way it doesn't matter, as they did get all the items. The problem with going by price is that they weren't told the prices. Overall, her strategy was much better than the other team's.


She wasn't allowed to use Google. She could only use the phone and the phone books. (Applies to both teams, hence the other team not knowing what the Blue Book was, what a Tikka was, etc. Liz's team was generally much better at identifying what they needed.)

Sugar keeps questioning whether or not Stella is 'too corporate' for his organisation. But then, if the person he does eventually hire tries to make negotiations in the way Jamie and his team did, they would be laughed out the boardroom.

The main problem with this task, without the use of the internet, is both teams focussed on finding an item, then buying it from the seller at the lowest price, without shopping around for better prices. That should have been part of both team's strategy. Find two of each item, go for the lowest price one.

It was a stupidly designed task from the outset. Those who set it up are the ones who really deserve to be fired.

It left way to much to chance and serendipity.

And the discounts the boys got were, frankly, unbelievable and completely unrepresentative of the real world. (Although, it must be admitted, the girls really didn't put much effort into getting discounts).

No she has not. Liz is the only outstanding candidate there and is one of the best candidates ever to appear on the Apprentice.

What hissy fits? Stella was the one who was out of order if you ask me. She was specifically instructed by Liz to notify her of the price of the truffles before closing the deal which Stella not only ignored but lied about, only to then accuse her of ineffective management in the boardroom. Thus any integrity she claimed to have is shot to bits.

Liz is still in the running whereas I doubt Stella is...

I'm not sure about that (I'm wondering still).

Did they not go downstairs to the kitchens? Which would account for the loss of signal.

But Stella said she couldn't get through as opposed to lack of signals. Also you could tell she wasn't happy about notifying her by the objections she raised inially thus I'd be willing to bet she didn't bother trying.

And in any case what was she thinking buying truffles from an end user, i.e. a restaurant? Even the normally useless Laura knew this was a stupid idea.

Think someone needs to tell Liz this then.
Girl thought she was as safe as houses until Stella soiled her good name, then the claws came out. Clearly she's feeling vulnerable now, and if that's how she responds to criticism then she's going to have a hard time working with Lord Sugar.

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