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Please could scd bosses get true fans on itt.
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lach doch mal
03-12-2010
Originally Posted by Tall Paul:
“Only because I'm a Matt and Aliona fan lol.”

Originally Posted by FelineFantastic:
“Tall Paul I think you will find LDM was agreeing with me not you.

If you really think that the Beeb are not supporting Matt then I am seriously concerned about the level of fandom you have reached- he is on nearly every show, linked to SCD or not, and is clearly someone the Beeb want to win.

Also Monagg I agree- Tamsin said everything that I have been saying about Matt for weeks- it was a really good and honest panel I think (not just because of that bit!)”

Yes I was agreeing with Feline Fantastic and I must say I was a bit confused about Tall Paul's response.

I like Matt, but ITT and Strictly aren't just about him. This Friday panel was actually quite good, people weren't plugging things and Tamsin and Michael seemed to have a real understanding and respect for the show. I think it was pure coincidence that they were supporting other couples.

I think this week Matt had enough exposure and enough fuss was made of his undermarking (I think I would start to get annoyed if I was a Scott fan, because it wasn't his fault he was overmarked).

I also will be controversial, despite the fact that I don't have any favourites, to me Kara is the better dancer.
Tangerine_82
03-12-2010
Originally Posted by Tall Paul:
“I will take notice of certain celebs then and I will put some in my ignore list then. Feel like I'm being attacked a bit at the moment.”

You're not being attacked. People are just expressing themselves about your post in which you were expressing yourself. No big deal. But for future reference, if you don't want people to berate your right to an opinion, you should stop yourself from doing the same - whether it's a forum poster or a celeb on a Friday panel. Discussion of opposing viewpoints isn't always hostile, don't read too much into it
Evie-Grace
03-12-2010
Originally Posted by Tall Paul:
“Just read on the Matt and Aliona appreciation thread that the guests on the Friday panel were quite nasty about Matt. If you are a true fan you should be on there, Tamsin and Michael's press agents were dorks booking them on itt tonight.”

Have just rewatched tonights show beyond me where Tamsin and Michael were quite nasty towards Matt..quite the opposite infact imo.

Michael has been on at least three or four previous years ITT and is clearly a huge fan of the show.
Tall Paul
03-12-2010
Originally Posted by lach doch mal:
“I like Matt, but ITT and Strictly aren't just about him. This Friday panel was actually quite good, people weren't plugging things and Tamsin and Michael seemed to have a real understanding and respect for the show. I think it was pure coincidence that they were supporting other couples.

I”

Like I said in my other posts there will be celebs opinions I will care about and some I just won't bother listening to.
Tall Paul
03-12-2010
Originally Posted by Tangerine_82:
“You're not being attacked. People are just expressing themselves about your post in which you were expressing yourself. No big deal. But for future reference, if you don't want people to berate your right to an opinion, you should stop yourself from doing the same - whether it's a forum poster or a celeb on a Friday panel. Discussion of opposing viewpoints isn't always hostile, don't read too much into it ”

Ok then, cheers for that.
Tall Paul
03-12-2010
Originally Posted by Evie-Grace:
“Have just rewatched tonights show beyond me where Tamsin and Michael were quite nasty towards Matt..quite the opposite infact imo.”

They don't have a clue how popular they actually are and should get their butts to the sony electrical store lol.
lach doch mal
03-12-2010
Originally Posted by Tall Paul:
“Like I said in my other posts there will be celebs opinions I will care about and some I just won't bother listening to.”

Well that's fair enough.
monalisa62003
03-12-2010
do you mean true fans of matt should be on the panel? wouldnt that be boring? if the panel only liked matt and didnt like anyone ese
Evie-Grace
03-12-2010
How popular they are is neither here nor there, they were not nasty about Matt or any of the other contestents.One of the best panels of the series.

Matt and Michael have worked together in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. When Matt was still in Blue Peter he went into the show to perform the big dance number 'Me Ol Bamboo'.Matt joined the cast for one performance before going on to play the role of Carractacus Potts on tour.
Tall Paul
03-12-2010
Originally Posted by monalisa62003:
“do you mean true fans of matt should be on the panel? wouldnt that be boring? if the panel only liked matt and didnt like anyone ese”

Not necessaraly so, but they ought to eat their words a bit more.
tangoqueen
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by Tall Paul:
“Just read on the Matt and Aliona appreciation thread that the guests on the Friday panel were quite nasty about Matt. If you are a true fan you should be on there, Tamsin and Michael's press agents were dorks booking them on itt tonight.”

What a dreadful thing to say - "dorks" .

Tamsin and Michael ARE true fans, actually, if you've ever bothered to look into it.


Originally Posted by lach doch mal:
“Yes I was agreeing with Feline Fantastic and I must say I was a bit confused about Tall Paul's response.

I like Matt, but ITT and Strictly aren't just about him. This Friday panel was actually quite good, people weren't plugging things and Tamsin and Michael seemed to have a real understanding and respect for the show. I think it was pure coincidence that they were supporting other couples.

I think this week Matt had enough exposure and enough fuss was made of his undermarking (I think I would start to get annoyed if I was a Scott fan, because it wasn't his fault he was overmarked).

I also will be controversial, despite the fact that I don't have any favourites, to me Kara is the better dancer.”

agree with that completely.

I thought they made an excellent panel. Everyone has their favourites - people have been on there before who were enjoying Matt the most so it doesn't mean they are against Matt if they happened to have a different favourite.

Originally Posted by Tangerine_82:
“You're not being attacked. People are just expressing themselves about your post in which you were expressing yourself. No big deal. But for future reference, if you don't want people to berate your right to an opinion, you should stop yourself from doing the same - whether it's a forum poster or a celeb on a Friday panel. Discussion of opposing viewpoints isn't always hostile, don't read too much into it ”

That's exactly it - a forum is for differing viewpoints without slating others - discussing the points yes and we all have our likes and dislikes - but Tall Paul, I don't like the way your posts slate others when it doesn't fit with your viewpoint and then you repeatedly do the selfsame thing which you criticise others for doing.

Originally Posted by Tall Paul:
“Not necessaraly so, but they ought to eat their words a bit more.”

Why? they are only giving THEIR opinion - if it's different to yours, it doesn't matter. They have a right to give opinion, as do you. Doesn't mean they are against your favourite, OR against you! Or that, because they have made observations about your favourite that weren't 100% gushing, it doesn't mean they were being nasty - merely having an opinion. That kind of reaction in that scenario i.e. commenting that people are "being nasty" just smacks of being in the school playground, when in reality, they were merely commenting on how they found him to be. Fair enough.

I really liked the Friday panel - Kara is my favourite but I would have said the same about the panel if their favourites had been the other dancers I am less keen on rather than my own favourite. I think both Michael and Tamsin both truly love the show and they gave fair opinions. We all have different ones and everyone's should be respected without having the "nasty" tag levelled at them when they make a comment which is less than complimentary - doesn't matter so long as it is constructive and fair.

On a lighter note, Craig was very funny!
Tall Paul
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by tangoqueen:
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Why? they are only giving THEIR opinion - if it's different to yours, it doesn't matter. Doesn't mean they are against your favourite, OR against you!

I really liked the Friday panel - Kara is my favourite but I would have said the same about the panel if their favourites had been the other dancers I am less keen on rather than my own favourite. I think both Michael and Tamsin both truly love the show and they gave fair opinions.

On a lighter note, Craig was very funny!”

What I don't like however is snide and reading the Matt and Aliona appreciation thread seemed to indicate that Michael and Tamsin were being quite snidey towards Matt. He doesn't deserve that at all. The idea of an EE final except for Kara would make it boring.:sleep: Btw, you don't need to shout or and their to me as I get the message loud and clear.
parthena
04-12-2010
Paul, don't be upset by the opinion of a third-rate performer like Tamsin Outhwaite.

However, she's right - Matt doesn't have sex appeal and I know why: it's because he cannot fake fancying his partner. It's all very well saying "we get on really well", but she's just the wrong type for him.

That, combined with the stressful and weird routines she's creating, seriously detract from the impression Matt makes.

IMO!

Gosh, I'm just watching DWTS and have seen the "no need to swear" episode repeated in the same circumstances in the finale of season 11. Don't ask me who the couple were, it's an awful programme, I'm just sampling it so's I can say I've seen it.
tangoqueen
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by Tall Paul:
“What I don't like however is snide and reading the Matt and Aliona appreciation thread seemed to indicate that Michael and Tamsin were being quite snidey towards Matt. He doesn't deserve that at all. The idea of an EE final except for Kara would make it boring.:sleep: Btw, you don't need to shout or and their to me as I get the message loud and clear.”

I'm not shouting, Paul, it's visual emphasis on a word. But I am glad you can hear me

I honestly do not think they were being snide and I really didn't like the suggestion that they were. I truly don't. I would say so if I thought they were because I don't like that kind of thing either.

No-one deserves that, no matter what your opinion of them.

I think there are four incredibly good dancers left in the competition - (I love Gavin but he isn't a good dancer and Ann goes without saying!) - and every single one of those four would deserve to win.

It simply boils down to our own personal favourites.

You and I have had our ding-dongs on here - but I wish you and your fave luck and am hoping for the same for mine.

More than anything, I want a good fair competition - almost doesn't matter in a way who wins now - they've all done so very well and I've enjoyed them.
Evie-Grace
04-12-2010
Quote:
“I honestly do not think they were being snide and I really didn't like the suggestion that they were.”

Totally agree, ridiculous to suggest they were imo.

Quote:
“I think there are four incredibly good dancers left in the competition”

Matt, Kara and Scott could all win outright and Pam has the potential to win. Gavin and Anne are the two that are not as strong as the others and therefore are in danger of elimination.

I actally want Matt to win but I have a feeling Kara may take it in the end.
Gill P
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by Monaogg:
“ITT tonight actually clarified why Matt is not a particular favourite of mine. Yes he dances well, with athleticism, grace & style but has no sex appeal. The sex appeal of dancing is not gender specific or particularly sexual in nature either.”

Bit too "Blue Peter" for me! Gethin managed to shake off the image during the show so I don't know why Matt cannot.

I have changed my allegiance throughout this series. Between Scott, Kara and Pamela. Although I agree Matt is a good dancer, somehow he just doesn't appeal to me. And I know why.
parthena
04-12-2010
I've already said - wrong partner
Smokeychan1
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by Tall Paul:
“Not necessaraly so, but they ought to eat their words a bit more.”

You really are quite crafty Paul. You claim only to be reading what others have said in that thread and yet you were the one trying to keep the outrage going all night, on there and in here too.

Honestly, all that was said was that Matt can't do sexy. It is a fairly unbiased opinion (and also not an uncommon observation), despite posters on the AppThrd claiming Tamsin is biased toward EE celebs (I won't use that smiley, but trust me I did roll my eyes when I read that comment).

As you well you know, appreciation threads are by there very nature biased. And for some reason some couples seem to pick up more of the precious type of fan than other couples. By that, I mean the sort of type who put their favourites on an unrealistic pedestal and deem even the most inoffensive remark to be a huge slur on their chosen ones. Last year it was Ali and Brian, this year it appears to be Matt and Aliona.

So, my hat off to all the Matt fans who ignored your faux outrage. Both on this thread and on the one in appreciation.

I also wish the best of luck to Matt tonight. Despite being a short, plain and sometimes overweight comedy actor, Mike Myers actually can do sexy. I hope Matt rises to the Austin Powers challenge
lach doch mal
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by tangoqueen:
“I'm not shouting, Paul, it's visual emphasis on a word. But I am glad you can hear me

I honestly do not think they were being snide and I really didn't like the suggestion that they were. I truly don't. I would say so if I thought they were because I don't like that kind of thing either.

No-one deserves that, no matter what your opinion of them.

I think there are four incredibly good dancers left in the competition - (I love Gavin but he isn't a good dancer and Ann goes without saying!) - and every single one of those four would deserve to win.

It simply boils down to our own personal favourites.

You and I have had our ding-dongs on here - but I wish you and your fave luck and am hoping for the same for mine.

More than anything, I want a good fair competition - almost doesn't matter in a way who wins now - they've all done so very well and I've enjoyed them.”

By the way, I think this is lovely post, not just in the context of this thread. I think we are very lucky to have four good dancers left and I hope that they will go through to the semis and the final.
Caramel Crunch
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by Tall Paul:
“Just read on the Matt and Aliona appreciation thread that the guests on the Friday panel were quite nasty about Matt. If you are a true fan you should be on there, Tamsin and Michael's press agents were dorks booking them on itt tonight.”

Not everyone worships at the altar of Matt & Aliona.

You do Matt & Aliona no favours with your behaviour.
monalisa62003
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by Tall Paul:
“Not necessaraly so, but they ought to eat their words a bit more.”

well i think the same. there's nothing appealing about matt. he's a good dancer but he's so boring.
Tall Paul
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by Caramel Crunch:
“Not everyone worships at the altar of Matt & Aliona.

You do Matt & Aliona no favours with your behaviour.”

OK then.
Tall Paul
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by Smokeychan1:
“You really are quite crafty Paul. You claim only to be reading what others have said in that thread and yet you were the one trying to keep the outrage going all night, on there and in here too.

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Crafty? faux outrage? I have a form of autism mate. Please be patient with me, please.
Tall Paul
04-12-2010
Originally Posted by Smokeychan1:
“I also wish the best of luck to Matt tonight. Despite being a short, plain and sometimes overweight comedy actor, Mike Myers actually can do sexy. I hope Matt rises to the Austin Powers challenge ”

Wish him luck too.
exodus2u
04-12-2010
It is strange that on the last few occasions where they have had friends and family on ITT that out of three guests one has been one of Anns.
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