For me this should be a sackable offence, she is there to judge on the dance performances and she makes a complete mockery of the show by giving the likes of Scott a 9 for that awful dance last week.

Bring back Arlene please.

i know nothing of dance, but i can tell she overmarks and i do find it ridiculous

and whenever she makes her comments its like shes in a rush to get over and done with asap so no-one notices how bad her judging skills are

Yup, I'd say.

Bruno also gave Scott a 9 for that awful dance last week and Craig was the only judge to give Kara a fair mark for that jive last week so if you're going down that route then only Craig should be kept on.

That it was a 9 doesn't mean it was over-marked. It's only the differences among her marks that can have any effect on the leader-board placings. It's only being too many points above what she gave other dancers that would make it over-marking.

Bruno openly admitted that he deliberately over marked Emma Bunton to ensure that she didn't go into the bottom two. I can remember being very cross at the time but, he's still there and it's Arlene who's gone!

I think they were scoring on what they saw in the dress rehearsal. I'm beginning to think they all do that.

I have mixed feelings about this, perhaps they have more time to observe the intricacies/elements of the performance. However Scott's cock-up showed that they weren't paying attention when they should have, and there's little wiggle room/time for adaptation if things are better/worse on the night.

I thought that the judges don't see the dress rehearsals.

I reckon so too.

They can do to review progress.

I though Bruno admitted to something rather different, to marking someone high because another judge had marked them low.

Is there a clip of him admitting specifically that he over-marked Emma to ensure that she didn't get into the bottom two, or even forum posts that give an exact direct quote?
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Some posts that go with what I thought happened:

Shows that the producers don't get it.

To be honest, although I yell at the TV screen as much as anybody else if I feel the judges are not seeing what I'm seeing, I can't see how it's a sackable offence for any of the judges to give an opinion that happens to be different from the others. They all mark on their own criteria, and however irritating that might be, they all 'admit' to marking according to their own lights, not anybody else's. A couple of weeks ago, Alesha was being praised on this forum for being the only judge marking fairly!

Arlene used to annoy the hell out of me for being picky about Alesha's dancing because she expected perfection from her, whereas she over-marked others for worse dances. Should she have been sacked because she 'admitted' to under-marking?

It's fine to get annoyed - we all do it - but at the end of the day, as Veri said, it doesn't matter a hell of a lot what the individual marks are - it's the positions on the leader-board that will influence the overall results.

I really am starting to lose patience with Alesha now.

Her producers are loons for reissuing her contract in the first place.

Arlene overmarked amd over commented on any male she liked and her tactless, counterproductive, negative comments were part of the reason for the anti-judge vote to grow and grow with John Sergeant.. The producers as a result needed to change the atmospherics of the judging panel and she had to go to stop the judges becoming pointless and counterproductive. There's no comparison with Bruno, who may well have been trying to deal with a real problem, that the top girls were getting no votes for no good reason, by making what should have been clear clearer. There's no evidence at all that he actually put Emma above anyone she shouldn't have been above..... or that he was similarly responsible for the rise in negative voting.

After a tentative start last series, Alesha seems to me to be making just the right comments from the perspective she's there to present, and her marks are helping to get the leaderboard into the right order after some random marking this series - largely from from Len.

Wonder whether bbc were trying to safeguard themselves from ofcom complaints of why they put Alesha in? ofcom are rats for interfering with bbc entertainment show broadcasting regulations and trying to get it to suit them. Poked their nose in and unfairly done to my mind.

Well, okay, you don't like her - that's fine, as you're perfectly entitled to have that opinion, but not being universally loved is not a sackable offence either!

I don't hate her either, but would rather she focused on her music career instead of judging.

It doesn't necessarily show that . All it shows is that they thought Scott with errors was better than Patsy with errors and other issues. Once they had marked Patsy they could either mark Scott higher or lower. Either is arguable, I would go with a mark higher - which is what he got. Pamela over Kara is more difficult - Kara tried but didn't quite achieve a very high standard, Pamela got as near to one as anyone her age could. You could call that either way or make them equal. Matt was unconvincing, so fell behind them. The leaderboard in those terms makes perfect sense and its doesn't matter if it got that way with the odd 9 or without it.

Indeed as 9 probably represents any mark between 8.5 and 9.5 and a 10 could be considered at 9.5 or somewhere even nearer to 10 you would expect there to be different calls on whats an 8 or 9 or a 9 or a 10.

Oh I don't know..... Arlene managed to make herself so unpopular over the JS fiasco that she was sacked before the next series.

And speaking personally, I was delighted to see the back of the pinch-faced harpy.

It's how the bbc want it to be edited as an entertainment show, rather than a dancing competition. The producers have proved to be complete facists and therefore not fit to run the show, sacking Arlene is one thing, bringing Alesha is quite another.

Everyone can see she over marks the contestants but that is the way she is.

Even so bbc ought to lose patience with her as she has no credibility of judging whatsoever.

One problem, year after year, is that some viewers think of marks as perfection (which they think is what 10 means) minus mistakes and other flaws -- and therefore think a couple with more (or more obvious) mistakes shouldn't get a higher mark.

Sometimes a judge seems to be marking that way, but often it's pretty clear that they aren't. And that isn't the only legitimate way to mark or even imo the best. But there always seems to be a degree of resentment if a dance with errors gets a 9 or even worse a 10.

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I would add that when a judge marks high to compensate for another judge marking low, it's wrong, and they shouldn't do it, but it's still trying to give the couple a combined score the judge thinks is deserved. It's not trying to give the couple a higher score than the judge thinks is deserved -- and so it isn't what the judges are so often accused of doing: giving "favourites" or "pets" artificially high marks just to protect them from the vote or from the dance-off.