OK - WHAT did Alesha say because my Sky failed to record SCD this evening????
Alesha's Comments on Anne
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Originally Posted by katie99:
“Little girls who vote for the funny lady should know what sort of person she is.”
“Little girls who vote for the funny lady should know what sort of person she is.”
Has it occurred to you that some people agree with her, others agree in part and some do not care?
Originally Posted by RFS:
“OK - WHAT did Alesha say because my Sky failed to record SCD this evening????”
“OK - WHAT did Alesha say because my Sky failed to record SCD this evening????”
"you're posture is terrible, more than anything you have no facial expression, there's no emotion (ann interrupts her here saying it's grim) it is a little bit grim. I didn't see any improvement this week, Ann. I'm afraid for me the honeymoons over"
might not be word for word perfect but it's more or less what she said.
Bruno said she looked like a dalek in drag...
Originally Posted by Dr. Jan Itor:
“I didn't have a problem with what Alesha said, but both her comments and Len's, which were both along the lines of the fun's over now and it's time to go, are the kind of comments I can see increasing Ann's votes as viewers say they'll decide when it's time for them to go. Not rude comments, but not smart either.”
“I didn't have a problem with what Alesha said, but both her comments and Len's, which were both along the lines of the fun's over now and it's time to go, are the kind of comments I can see increasing Ann's votes as viewers say they'll decide when it's time for them to go. Not rude comments, but not smart either.”
It didn`t work with Craig Kelly last year
Wasn`t he voted out after Alesha unleashed some straight talk to him ?
Originally Posted by Dr. Jan Itor:
“I didn't have a problem with what Alesha said, but both her comments and Len's, which were both along the lines of the fun's over now and it's time to go, are the kind of comments I can see increasing Ann's votes as viewers say they'll decide when it's time for them to go. Not rude comments, but not smart either.”
“I didn't have a problem with what Alesha said, but both her comments and Len's, which were both along the lines of the fun's over now and it's time to go, are the kind of comments I can see increasing Ann's votes as viewers say they'll decide when it's time for them to go. Not rude comments, but not smart either.”
Being nice hasnt worked for 9 weeks.
Originally Posted by jinx2:
“What my or my nieces political views are, are nobodies concern. The only point I was making was that the Ann phone line was engaged for a long period of time.”
“What my or my nieces political views are, are nobodies concern. The only point I was making was that the Ann phone line was engaged for a long period of time.”
You ring the same number to connect to the exchange - or get the engaged signal - for all the contestants. The last two digits signify which contestant you are voting for, but they don't comprise part of the phone number proper, if that makes sense.
If people are able to get through and you are having difficulty, that is down to the speed of your phone/phoneline/the exchange taking your calls. Not who you are voting for.
Originally Posted by RFS:
“OK - WHAT did Alesha say because my Sky failed to record SCD this evening????”
“OK - WHAT did Alesha say because my Sky failed to record SCD this evening????”
Jokes over, basically.
I have Problem with Alesha Comments tonight- Alesha comment about posture to ann is one just look at the height differance between Ann and Anton it not perfect but what does she expect her to do
And Bruno comment about her being a Dalek i think was meant to be a joke about other Contestants that have left before her, but i think it may of backfired on him
And Bruno comment about her being a Dalek i think was meant to be a joke about other Contestants that have left before her, but i think it may of backfired on him
Originally Posted by bingoman:
“I have Problem with Alesha Comments tonight- Alesha comment about posture to ann is one just look at the height differance between Ann and Anton it not perfect but what does she expect her to do”
“I have Problem with Alesha Comments tonight- Alesha comment about posture to ann is one just look at the height differance between Ann and Anton it not perfect but what does she expect her to do
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But surely in that case it should be Anton leaning forward/bent over, not Ann?
Originally Posted by Lolly_Du_Beke:
“"you're posture is terrible, more than anything you have no facial expression, there's no emotion (ann interrupts her here saying it's grim) it is a little bit grim. I didn't see any improvement this week, Ann. I'm afraid for me the honeymoons over"
might not be word for word perfect but it's more or less what she said.
Bruno said she looked like a dalek in drag...”
“"you're posture is terrible, more than anything you have no facial expression, there's no emotion (ann interrupts her here saying it's grim) it is a little bit grim. I didn't see any improvement this week, Ann. I'm afraid for me the honeymoons over"
might not be word for word perfect but it's more or less what she said.
Bruno said she looked like a dalek in drag...”
That was quite polite!
I know you haven't said otherwise btw. Craig says much worse than that every week. Ann's posture is terrible and surely something she could have improved on by now, after all this time. '...it is a little bit grim' wasn't rude - she was quite gently agreeing with what Ann herself was interrupting with! I would call it fair criticism put over to Ann in a straight-talking but calm manner. Ann seemed to take it on the chin.
Originally Posted by Tissy:
“It didn`t work with Craig Kelly last year
Wasn`t he voted out after Alesha unleashed some straight talk to him ?”
“It didn`t work with Craig Kelly last year
Wasn`t he voted out after Alesha unleashed some straight talk to him ?”
True, but the votes for Craig were all about getting him to Blackpool, and so once he got there people stopped voting for him to leave him there. Alesha was rude to Craig in Blackpool, but I think that was coincidental and not the reason he left.
Originally Posted by Smokeychan1:
“Being nice hasnt worked for 9 weeks.”
“Being nice hasnt worked for 9 weeks.”
It hasn't, but history has shown us that negative comments from the judges bring about more votes for the people they are negative about. They were far worse to John Sergeant, and the leaked figures suggest he did much better in the voting than Ann.
Someone I was watching the show with tonight wanted to vote for Ann after what Alesha and Len said.
We don't need the judges giving people more reasons to vote for Ann.
I thought Bruno and Alesha made inappropriate remarks to Ann tonight. Alesha gave a 9 to someone who staggered round the floor last week. Craig is the most consistent judge, the others seem to mark based on their mood of the day
Originally Posted by katie99:
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I think she is utterly vile and it will be a travesty if she goes through, people should be rewarded for making an effort and improving. Little girls who vote for the funny lady should know what sort of person she is.”
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I think she is utterly vile and it will be a travesty if she goes through, people should be rewarded for making an effort and improving. Little girls who vote for the funny lady should know what sort of person she is.”
Originally Posted by jinx2:
“Has it occurred to you that some people agree with her, others agree in part and some do not care?”
“Has it occurred to you that some people agree with her, others agree in part and some do not care?”
Interesting discussion.
Like katie I totally loathe some of Ann's political views and whilst I accept some people may agree with her, I reserve the right to believe that they are as wrong in their views as she is.....
However, I guess it does raise the question whether someone's attitudes and indeed morals should have a bearing on whether they can be seen as a good role model when appearing on a show like Strictly. I don't really have an answer to that, except that the knowledge I do have about Ann's views means that I could never have voted for her, the question is, if I didn't already know her politics, do I need to find out her history before deciding if I like her as a Strictly contestant??
Originally Posted by Lolly_Du_Beke:
“"you're posture is terrible, more than anything you have no facial expression, there's no emotion (ann interrupts her here saying it's grim) it is a little bit grim. I didn't see any improvement this week, Ann. I'm afraid for me the honeymoons over"
might not be word for word perfect but it's more or less what she said.
Bruno said she looked like a dalek in drag...”
“"you're posture is terrible, more than anything you have no facial expression, there's no emotion (ann interrupts her here saying it's grim) it is a little bit grim. I didn't see any improvement this week, Ann. I'm afraid for me the honeymoons over"
might not be word for word perfect but it's more or less what she said.
Bruno said she looked like a dalek in drag...”
All of this is purely relevant criticism of Ann's dancing & long overdue IMO. Nothing remotely personal in what Alesha said. Even Bruno's comments were pretty harmless really.
I think Bruno may have been harsh with the 'Dalek in drag' comment (funny there are no threads on his comments though!) but Alesha was absolutely spot on, as she was in Blackpool last year. She was speaking the truth, and it wasn't rude, if Ann thought it was rude she would have surely said so!
Originally Posted by Fiz:
“I thought Bruno and Alesha made inappropriate remarks to Ann tonight. Alesha gave a 9 to someone who staggered round the floor last week. Craig is the most consistent judge, the others seem to mark based on their mood of the day”
“I thought Bruno and Alesha made inappropriate remarks to Ann tonight. Alesha gave a 9 to someone who staggered round the floor last week. Craig is the most consistent judge, the others seem to mark based on their mood of the day
”
"inappropriate remarks"? No doubt you're being sarcastic?
Originally Posted by jinx2:
“Has it occurred to you that some people agree with her, others agree in part and some do not care?”
“Has it occurred to you that some people agree with her, others agree in part and some do not care?”
Well said. I am no fan of Ann Widdicombe or the Conservative Government she was a part of but she was an MP voted in legitimately into a legitimate Government.
Originally Posted by mandyxxxx:
“Interesting discussion.
Like katie I totally loathe some of Ann's political views and whilst I accept some people may agree with her, I reserve the right to believe that they are as wrong in their views as she is.....
However, I guess it does raise the question whether someone's attitudes and indeed morals should have a bearing on whether they can be seen as a good role model when appearing on a show like Strictly.
I don't really have an answer to that, except that the knowledge I do have about Ann's views means that I could never have voted for her, the question is, if I didn't already know her politics, do I need to find out her history before deciding if I like her as a Strictly contestant??”
“Interesting discussion.
Like katie I totally loathe some of Ann's political views and whilst I accept some people may agree with her, I reserve the right to believe that they are as wrong in their views as she is.....
However, I guess it does raise the question whether someone's attitudes and indeed morals should have a bearing on whether they can be seen as a good role model when appearing on a show like Strictly.
I don't really have an answer to that, except that the knowledge I do have about Ann's views means that I could never have voted for her, the question is, if I didn't already know her politics, do I need to find out her history before deciding if I like her as a Strictly contestant??
”
What her political views are is utterly irrelevant to whether someone finds her dance attempts entertaining or not and I'm fairly sure if people started to examine the personal opinions of everyone who'd been on the show they'd probably find something they didn't like or agree with.
Personally I wish EastEnders and anyone associated with it would go float off and hit an iceberg but it doesn't mean I don't like watching Scott Maslen dance because I don't care about what he does or doesn't do as a day job.
I think it was about time the honeymoon was over, to be honest! And I hooted with laughter at the way the Beeb tried to hoist Anne by her own petard tonight. Her VT before her dance showed her up for the sour faced, arrogant old bag that she is - not the witty, fluffy old dear she's been made out to be for all these weeks. I did start to entertain the hope that tonight her number may at last be up. And on that note I'm off to bed before I succumb to the temptation of looking at the spoiler thread!
Originally Posted by x-cherry-x:
“I thought they should have been a bit nicer because to me, it was obvious she was trying and I thought she'd improved.”
“I thought they should have been a bit nicer because to me, it was obvious she was trying and I thought she'd improved.”
Totally agree.Ann had definately improved this week.
As for her posture, she even walks quite badly if you watch when she goes across the floor to the stairs. I don't think that good posture is easy for her.
Originally Posted by katie99:
“@jinx2 yes democracy but know exactly what you are voting for - chaining pregnant women to beds for example??
To quote the Guardian liveblog - Anyone who votes for Ann tonight after seeing Matt, Kara, Pamela, Scott and Gavin all dance superbly should have the word MORON branded across their forehead.”
“@jinx2 yes democracy but know exactly what you are voting for - chaining pregnant women to beds for example??
To quote the Guardian liveblog - Anyone who votes for Ann tonight after seeing Matt, Kara, Pamela, Scott and Gavin all dance superbly should have the word MORON branded across their forehead.”
wow
. She was mildly entertaining in the first 2-3 weeks (for me) and then the joke wore off, but I would NEVER criticise any member of GBP for voting for her. We live in a democracy and I rather like what that means.I agree that she turned from a mild joke to a nuisance and perhaps even a boil, but to brand her voters ? My Godfathers, I choose that I shall never lend my support to the Guardian ever again for such a vile concept
Originally Posted by katie99:
“@jinx2 does your niece actually know anything about Doris Karloff? can't understand how anyone could vote for the vile woman and she looked like a sack of spuds.”
“@jinx2 does your niece actually know anything about Doris Karloff? can't understand how anyone could vote for the vile woman and she looked like a sack of spuds.”
I laughed out loud at this,
Alesha was spot on with her remarks especially the one about, the honeymoon is over, in fact all the judges got it right with thier comments about her. I think 2 of them way over marked her. They should have all given her 2
I just watched this all back - I thought Alesha actually was quite fair - she started with positives and then just said her opinion - which is her role as a judge.
Bruno was just Bruno - so... it's all a bit of panto anyway.
I think if Ann had really been trying throughout the series, then fair enough. But she's been very open and honest about NOT trying at all for Latin, and giving it *some* effort in Ballroom.
I get that for her personal views, she is not ever going to entertain more of the slinky minky moves, but I found her comments a few weeks ago about the whole costume and suggestiveness of routines a little insulting towards those Pros who obviously do put in some element of sex appeal.
Bruno was just Bruno - so... it's all a bit of panto anyway.
I think if Ann had really been trying throughout the series, then fair enough. But she's been very open and honest about NOT trying at all for Latin, and giving it *some* effort in Ballroom.
I get that for her personal views, she is not ever going to entertain more of the slinky minky moves, but I found her comments a few weeks ago about the whole costume and suggestiveness of routines a little insulting towards those Pros who obviously do put in some element of sex appeal.
Originally Posted by mandyxxxx:
“Interesting discussion.
Like katie I totally loathe some of Ann's political views and whilst I accept some people may agree with her, I reserve the right to believe that they are as wrong in their views as she is.....
However, I guess it does raise the question whether someone's attitudes and indeed morals should have a bearing on whether they can be seen as a good role model when appearing on a show like Strictly. I don't really have an answer to that, except that the knowledge I do have about Ann's views means that I could never have voted for her, the question is, if I didn't already know her politics, do I need to find out her history before deciding if I like her as a Strictly contestant??”
“Interesting discussion.
Like katie I totally loathe some of Ann's political views and whilst I accept some people may agree with her, I reserve the right to believe that they are as wrong in their views as she is.....
However, I guess it does raise the question whether someone's attitudes and indeed morals should have a bearing on whether they can be seen as a good role model when appearing on a show like Strictly. I don't really have an answer to that, except that the knowledge I do have about Ann's views means that I could never have voted for her, the question is, if I didn't already know her politics, do I need to find out her history before deciding if I like her as a Strictly contestant??
”
Good post, but I find it hard to stomach seeing her enjoying all the attention (even if she didn't quite latch on to the fact that some of the laughter was at her expense) when she'd allowed women prisoners in labour to be chained to their beds.
On the other hand, she's against fox hunting, so she's not all bad.
I guess it comes down to the fact that she was repeatedly voted in whilst others who'd put time and effort into it were booted off.
I don't really know what the judges said last night, but I can only feel pity for them having to sit and watch Worsel Grumage perform her stomp of the night, and then have to pass comment on it live on tv. I just don't know how they do it.
Originally Posted by Bohochic:
“Totally agree.Ann had definately improved this week.
As for her posture, she even walks quite badly if you watch when she goes across the floor to the stairs. I don't think that good posture is easy for her.”
“Totally agree.Ann had definately improved this week.
As for her posture, she even walks quite badly if you watch when she goes across the floor to the stairs. I don't think that good posture is easy for her.”
I'm sure if she had some well fitting undergarments she would look a lot better than she does.
Originally Posted by Mystical123:
“I think Bruno may have been harsh with the 'Dalek in drag' comment (funny there are no threads on his comments though!) but Alesha was absolutely spot on, as she was in Blackpool last year. She was speaking the truth, and it wasn't rude, if Ann thought it was rude she would have surely said so!”
“I think Bruno may have been harsh with the 'Dalek in drag' comment (funny there are no threads on his comments though!) but Alesha was absolutely spot on, as she was in Blackpool last year. She was speaking the truth, and it wasn't rude, if Ann thought it was rude she would have surely said so!
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I didnt see it as any different to the time he compared her to a battleship. Ann herself did the same. I think Bruce interfering made it seem harsher than it was; had he not done so, I doubt it would have been seen as anything other than a typical Bruno critique.
Besides, the comment was more scathing of the costume than Ann. It was an awful "dress" that, once pointed out by Bruno, did rather remind me of a Dalek
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