I have had tickets for the tour for months now. Never having been to anything remotely like this type of show before it will be interesting to see how (if at all) the build up differs.
Standing ovations
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Standing ovations are meaningless when the people are told to stand. A standing ovation should be a very rare event and only for some dance which the audience feel is outstanding and which is freely given by the audience.
Bruce gave the game away on sat when he said to those standing around him "I know you were told to stand" and this has been confirmed by people who have gone to the show.
There were only two performances so far that deserved a standind ovation, Kara's spellbinding AT and Scott's outstanding Jive.
Bruce gave the game away on sat when he said to those standing around him "I know you were told to stand" and this has been confirmed by people who have gone to the show.
There were only two performances so far that deserved a standind ovation, Kara's spellbinding AT and Scott's outstanding Jive.
I was there the week before last in the audience and we were not asked to stand, just to stand if we felt the dance /performance deserved it, which is what I did, so I stood for Matt and Aliona's AS and when Patsy went out , the people in the balcony were told not to stand because of safety reasons.
Originally Posted by Paace:
“There were only two performances so far that deserved a standind ovation, Kara's spellbinding AT and Scott's outstanding Jive.”
“There were only two performances so far that deserved a standind ovation, Kara's spellbinding AT and Scott's outstanding Jive.”
I am more selective than you, I stood and ovated for Kara only -- at home. Natalie used the wily trick of staying behind the door so that the audience's undivided attention focused on Scott. Had Natalie been out front jiving she would have outjived Scott.
An optical illusion does not fool me, Natalie.
Originally Posted by Sambasue:
“I was there the week before last in the audience and we were not asked to stand, just to stand if we felt the.”
“I was there the week before last in the audience and we were not asked to stand, just to stand if we felt the.”
I suspect the Beeb's stance softened as the weeks went by.
In week 1 it was reported as obligatory, and a big stink was stirred up in this Forum. The Beeb read this forum too. They may even have read my posting that had I been there I would have generously donated furniture to the warm-up man, i.e. thrown my chair at him.
Originally Posted by Paace:
“Bruce gave the game away on sat when he said to those standing around him "I know you were told to stand" and this has been confirmed by people who have gone to the show.”
“Bruce gave the game away on sat when he said to those standing around him "I know you were told to stand" and this has been confirmed by people who have gone to the show.”
I think it was irony brought about by threads like this. Wholly tongue in cheek.
Originally Posted by soulmate61:
“I suspect the Beeb's stance softened as the weeks went by.
In week 1 it was reported as obligatory, and a big stink was stirred up in this Forum. The Beeb read this forum too. They may even have read my posting that had I been there I would have generously donated furniture to the warm-up man, i.e. thrown my chair at him. ”
“I suspect the Beeb's stance softened as the weeks went by.
In week 1 it was reported as obligatory, and a big stink was stirred up in this Forum. The Beeb read this forum too. They may even have read my posting that had I been there I would have generously donated furniture to the warm-up man, i.e. thrown my chair at him.
”
And I suspect the "obligatory" ovation rumour was started by a disgruntled dance fan who objected to the audience spontaneously getting to their feet after Ann performed
Originally Posted by Sambasue:
“I was there the week before last in the audience and we were not asked to stand, just to stand if we felt the dance /performance deserved it”
“I was there the week before last in the audience and we were not asked to stand, just to stand if we felt the dance /performance deserved it”
This corresponds with other "in-the-audience" reviews I have read during the series.
Originally Posted by Smokeychan1:
“And I suspect the "obligatory" ovation rumour was started by a disgruntled dance fan who objected to the audience spontaneously getting to their feet after Ann performed”
“And I suspect the "obligatory" ovation rumour was started by a disgruntled dance fan who objected to the audience spontaneously getting to their feet after Ann performed
”
Well I started this thread because the contrast to previous series was blindingly obvious and I wanted to hear from people who had been in the audience.
Thanks for all your responses so far everyone. Sounds like most who have responded were in the audience in recent weeks, so I would still be interested to hear from anyone who went in the earlier weeks.
Cheers,
Tangos
Since when did ovate become a verb?
Ovate as an adjective - oval, egg shaped, elliptical.
Ovate as a noun: in ancient times a foreteller of the future, an oracle, a seer etc. Also a Druid (though I'm sure whether rampant or not)!
Ovate as an adjective - oval, egg shaped, elliptical.
Ovate as a noun: in ancient times a foreteller of the future, an oracle, a seer etc. Also a Druid (though I'm sure whether rampant or not)!
I think standard ovations started in the theatre in New York. On opening nights friends and family of the cast occupied all the front rows, they stood up at the end and clapped and chanted for the cast, the poor old folks in the seats behind had no option but to stand up cos they couldn't see.
Perhaps the same in the BBC Studio?
Perhaps the same in the BBC Studio?
Originally Posted by youcandoit:
“I went to the taping of the Xmas special and the warm up guy 'encourages' the audience to get up if they feel like it, and also to cheer on any lifts and turns. But those sitting upstairs are asked not to give standing ovations, not sure why.
I was sat in the back row behind Len and Alesha and if the back row are standing it's because they can't see the dancers from behind the judges.”
“I went to the taping of the Xmas special and the warm up guy 'encourages' the audience to get up if they feel like it, and also to cheer on any lifts and turns. But those sitting upstairs are asked not to give standing ovations, not sure why.
I was sat in the back row behind Len and Alesha and if the back row are standing it's because they can't see the dancers from behind the judges.”
Elf n safety. They don't want some random SCD fan toppling over the railing like the tram on Corrie and causing untold carnage on the slebs in the audience below.
Looks like Strictly this year is being run by an American. We're supposed to believe that all the standing ovations mean the show is better than ever. If you are not yet face down on the floor because all the day-glo lighting gave you an epileptic fit first.
Originally Posted by bunnykin:
“I'm sick of the standing ovations! They're meaningless now as they're happening for almost every dance it seems. Perhaps if Brucie didn't keep saying "look at them, they're on their feet!" I might not mind it so much. All his comment does is remind me that they're on their feet for everyone and everything. It makes me cringe.”
“I'm sick of the standing ovations! They're meaningless now as they're happening for almost every dance it seems. Perhaps if Brucie didn't keep saying "look at them, they're on their feet!" I might not mind it so much. All his comment does is remind me that they're on their feet for everyone and everything. It makes me cringe.”
Agreed. They should be used in the final only as in previous series.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_ovation
Quote:
“A standing ovation is a form of applause where members of a seated audience stand up while applauding. This is done on special occasions by an audience to show their approval and is done after extraordinary performances of particularly high acclaim. In Ancient Rome returning military commanders (such as Marcus Licinius Crassus after his defeat of Spartacus) whose victories did not quite meet the requirements of a triumph but which were still praiseworthy were celebrated with an ovation instead, from the Latin ovo, "I rejoice". The word's use in English to refer to sustained applause dates from at least 1831.[1]
Standing ovations are considered to be a special honor. Often it is used at the entrance or departure of a speaker or performer, where the audience members will continue the ovation until the ovated person leaves or begins their speech. Usually, when a critical mass of a small fraction of the audience stands up (perhaps one-fifth), the entire audience becomes compelled to stand as well.
Some have observed that the standing ovation has come to be devalued, such as in the field of politics, in which on some occasions standing ovations may be given to political leaders as a matter of course, rather than as a special honour in unusual circumstances. Examples include party conferences in many countries, where the speech of the party leader is rewarded with a "stage managed" standing ovation as a matter of course, and the State of the Union Address of the President of the United States (see ovations at 6:15 and 7:00 here). It is routine, rather than exceptional, for this address to be introduced, interrupted and followed by standing ovations, both from the President's own party and his political opponents. However, by tradition all ovations that occur before the speech begins, as opposed to those that interrupt it, are given in praise of the office itself, rather than the individual office-holder, and the President is never introduced by name.
Standing ovations are also often given in a sporting context to reflect an outstanding individual performance, for example in cricket standing ovations are given to a batsman who has been dismissed having played a definitive innings in the match (either making a century or batting for such a long time it saved the match) or even when a bowler walks off the pitch having taken 5 wickets or having performed exceptionally well. Similarly, baseball pitchers will often receive a standing ovation after pitching a perfect game or for pitching a potentially perfect game until being taken out due to signs of fatigue.”
“A standing ovation is a form of applause where members of a seated audience stand up while applauding. This is done on special occasions by an audience to show their approval and is done after extraordinary performances of particularly high acclaim. In Ancient Rome returning military commanders (such as Marcus Licinius Crassus after his defeat of Spartacus) whose victories did not quite meet the requirements of a triumph but which were still praiseworthy were celebrated with an ovation instead, from the Latin ovo, "I rejoice". The word's use in English to refer to sustained applause dates from at least 1831.[1]
Standing ovations are considered to be a special honor. Often it is used at the entrance or departure of a speaker or performer, where the audience members will continue the ovation until the ovated person leaves or begins their speech. Usually, when a critical mass of a small fraction of the audience stands up (perhaps one-fifth), the entire audience becomes compelled to stand as well.
Some have observed that the standing ovation has come to be devalued, such as in the field of politics, in which on some occasions standing ovations may be given to political leaders as a matter of course, rather than as a special honour in unusual circumstances. Examples include party conferences in many countries, where the speech of the party leader is rewarded with a "stage managed" standing ovation as a matter of course, and the State of the Union Address of the President of the United States (see ovations at 6:15 and 7:00 here). It is routine, rather than exceptional, for this address to be introduced, interrupted and followed by standing ovations, both from the President's own party and his political opponents. However, by tradition all ovations that occur before the speech begins, as opposed to those that interrupt it, are given in praise of the office itself, rather than the individual office-holder, and the President is never introduced by name.
Standing ovations are also often given in a sporting context to reflect an outstanding individual performance, for example in cricket standing ovations are given to a batsman who has been dismissed having played a definitive innings in the match (either making a century or batting for such a long time it saved the match) or even when a bowler walks off the pitch having taken 5 wickets or having performed exceptionally well. Similarly, baseball pitchers will often receive a standing ovation after pitching a perfect game or for pitching a potentially perfect game until being taken out due to signs of fatigue.”
I'm not sure I accept wiki's definition - I can't find one dictionary that defines ovate as a verb.
Certainly not the OED or Websters.
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“I'm not sure I accept wiki's definition - I can't find one dictionary that defines ovate as a verb.
Certainly not the OED or Websters.”
“I'm not sure I accept wiki's definition - I can't find one dictionary that defines ovate as a verb.
Certainly not the OED or Websters.”
The Wiki thing is probably because an American wrote the article. "Verbifying" is much more acceptable stateside. But does it really matter so long as we all know what's meant?
I like this site for etymologies:
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?...earchmode=none
According to that, ovation dates to 1831, but standing ovation only to 1968!
Originally Posted by gorlagon:
“The Wiki thing is probably because an American wrote the article. "Verbifying" is much more acceptable stateside. But does it really matter so long as we all know what's meant?
I like this site for etymologies:
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?...earchmode=none
According to that, ovation dates to 1831, but standing ovation only to 1968!”
“The Wiki thing is probably because an American wrote the article. "Verbifying" is much more acceptable stateside. But does it really matter so long as we all know what's meant?
I like this site for etymologies:
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?...earchmode=none
According to that, ovation dates to 1831, but standing ovation only to 1968!”
No it doesn't really matter - but it sounds a bit clumsy to me. I prefer something on the lines of "I too stood and applauded" or "I took part in the standing ovation," but that's probably me being pedantic.
Incidentally although Websters defines verbify the OED doesn't - though verbalise is there.
Guess verbify is another Americanisation.
An abridgement of Ainsworth's dictionary: English and Latin, ... - Google Books Result
Robert Ainsworth, Thomas Morell - 1807 - Foreign Language Study - 1062 pages
... Virg. f. verb, [ab ovo, as] The triumphing in the lesser triumph. ... ūs. m. verb. Shouts for \joy, or victory. ...
books.google.ie/books?id=5nQSAAAAIAAJ...
Arlene's Dictionary definition:
"Ovations are obviously over the top."
Robert Ainsworth, Thomas Morell - 1807 - Foreign Language Study - 1062 pages
... Virg. f. verb, [ab ovo, as] The triumphing in the lesser triumph. ... ūs. m. verb. Shouts for \joy, or victory. ...
books.google.ie/books?id=5nQSAAAAIAAJ...
Arlene's Dictionary definition:
"Ovations are obviously over the top."
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“No it doesn't really matter - but it sounds a bit clumsy to me. I prefer something on the lines of "I too stood and applauded" or "I took part in the standing ovation," but that's probably me being pedantic.
Incidentally although Websters defines verbify the OED doesn't - though verbalise is there.
Guess verbify is another Americanisation.”
“No it doesn't really matter - but it sounds a bit clumsy to me. I prefer something on the lines of "I too stood and applauded" or "I took part in the standing ovation," but that's probably me being pedantic.
Incidentally although Websters defines verbify the OED doesn't - though verbalise is there.
Guess verbify is another Americanisation.”
Thats like normalcy instead of normality. I believe it was some American president that introduced that word.
Old Widders was boasting on ITT that she had received 9 standing ovations out of the ten times she had "performed" her comedy/panto act.
She must be deluded enough to think that they are genuine standing ovations and not ones encouraged by the Beebs floor managers/goofs.
She must be deluded enough to think that they are genuine standing ovations and not ones encouraged by the Beebs floor managers/goofs.
Originally Posted by tangos_with_tim:
“Well I started this thread because the contrast to previous series was blindingly obvious and I wanted to hear from people who had been in the audience.
Thanks for all your responses so far everyone. Sounds like most who have responded were in the audience in recent weeks, so I would still be interested to hear from anyone who went in the earlier weeks.
Cheers,
Tangos”
“Well I started this thread because the contrast to previous series was blindingly obvious and I wanted to hear from people who had been in the audience.
Thanks for all your responses so far everyone. Sounds like most who have responded were in the audience in recent weeks, so I would still be interested to hear from anyone who went in the earlier weeks.
Cheers,
Tangos”
Quote: 11OCT2010
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...2&postcount=23
Originally Posted by tvaddict37:
“
you're right, i was in the audience on the first Friday and it was bl**dy irritating when the warm up guy told us we had to stand after every dance.
ridiculous.”
“
Quote:
“Originally Posted by Abbasolutely 40
The " standing ovations " are annoying me ,You can almost hear the floor manager tell them to stand up and whoop .”
“Originally Posted by Abbasolutely 40
The " standing ovations " are annoying me ,You can almost hear the floor manager tell them to stand up and whoop .”
you're right, i was in the audience on the first Friday and it was bl**dy irritating when the warm up guy told us we had to stand after every dance.
ridiculous.”
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“No it doesn't really matter - but it sounds a bit clumsy to me. I prefer something on the lines of "I too stood and applauded" or "I took part in the standing ovation," but that's probably me being pedantic.
Incidentally although Websters defines verbify the OED doesn't - though verbalise is there.
Guess verbify is another Americanisation.”
“No it doesn't really matter - but it sounds a bit clumsy to me. I prefer something on the lines of "I too stood and applauded" or "I took part in the standing ovation," but that's probably me being pedantic.
Incidentally although Websters defines verbify the OED doesn't - though verbalise is there.
Guess verbify is another Americanisation.”
Hence my quotation marks. Verbalise means something completely different - presumably it's in Webster (or Webster's, not Websters) as verbalize.
People tend to think of American usage as somehow newfangled. Some of it is newfangled, of course, just as some British usage is newfangled. But the heart of the differences between the two - eg -ize or -ise - really stem from the fact that New World colonisation began before the push to standardise English into dictionaries. Once that happened, each side of the pond coalesced into different types of standardisation. Americans don't speak and write mangled English: they speak and write an English that was standardised differently. Another interesting one is "it'll be here in a couple of weeks" (British) or "it'll be here in a couple weeks" (US).
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“No it doesn't really matter - but it sounds a bit clumsy to me. I prefer something on the lines of "I too stood and applauded" or "I took part in the standing ovation," but that's probably me being pedantic.
Incidentally although Websters defines verbify the OED doesn't - though verbalise is there.
Guess verbify is another Americanisation.”
“No it doesn't really matter - but it sounds a bit clumsy to me. I prefer something on the lines of "I too stood and applauded" or "I took part in the standing ovation," but that's probably me being pedantic.
Incidentally although Websters defines verbify the OED doesn't - though verbalise is there.
Guess verbify is another Americanisation.”
Ah, I just *had* to go and look it up. No subscription to the current OED, but my big, two-volume Shorter Oxford lists verbify. So there we go!
Originally Posted by gorlagon:
“People tend to think of American usage as somehow newfangled. Some of it is newfangled, of course, just as some British usage is newfangled. But the heart of the differences between the two - eg -ize or -ise - really stem from the fact that New World colonisation began before the push to standardise English into dictionaries. Once that happened, each side of the pond coalesced into different types of standardisation. Americans don't speak and write mangled English: they speak and write an English that was standardised differently. Another interesting one is "it'll be here in a couple of weeks" (British) or "it'll be here in a couple weeks" (US).”
“People tend to think of American usage as somehow newfangled. Some of it is newfangled, of course, just as some British usage is newfangled. But the heart of the differences between the two - eg -ize or -ise - really stem from the fact that New World colonisation began before the push to standardise English into dictionaries. Once that happened, each side of the pond coalesced into different types of standardisation. Americans don't speak and write mangled English: they speak and write an English that was standardised differently. Another interesting one is "it'll be here in a couple of weeks" (British) or "it'll be here in a couple weeks" (US).”
Language is moulded by the people not the schoolmaster. After 1776 the colonists became mortal enemies of Britain and in particular King George and the ruling class. It would then not have been fashionable for use of language to emulate England.
If this were a factor, then the Empire Loyalists who crossed over to Canada might have preserved closer ties with England's usage. Anybody in Canada?
Originally Posted by clayton_st:
“Old Widders was boasting on ITT that she had received 9 standing ovations out of the ten times she had "performed" her comedy/panto act.
She must be deluded enough to think that they are genuine standing ovations and not ones encouraged by the Beebs floor managers/goofs.”
“Old Widders was boasting on ITT that she had received 9 standing ovations out of the ten times she had "performed" her comedy/panto act.
She must be deluded enough to think that they are genuine standing ovations and not ones encouraged by the Beebs floor managers/goofs.”
She also thought they had another week left in them !!! Deluded much ?
Originally Posted by Abbasolutely 40:
“She also thought they had another week left in them !!! Deluded much ?”
“She also thought they had another week left in them !!! Deluded much ?
”
Methinks the tour is going to do wonders for her ego
I will make a note to push anyone who sits near me in the front back into their seat if there is a sniff of an ovation
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