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Old 08-12-2010, 14:00
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People choose to vote for someone because:-
[LIST][*]they are a brilliant dancer all through the series[*]they start out poor and get better[*]they don't get much better but obviously try very hard[*]they are hopeless but entertaining[*]they just like the person anyway[/LIST]
It's an entertainment show with a public vote and the voters all have their favourties for their own reasons.

Which is just as it should be.
This.

I think is quite funny that people were moaning about it being a dancing competition when Ann was left in, yet are going to vote for Gavin.
Are you meaning specific forum members? Or are you meaning that the forum en masse largely disliked Ann and now a sizeable proportion of posts seem to support Gavin?

The thing is, while forums may seem to have a "voice" all of their own, they're actually made up of individual people. I wouldn't say vast swathes of forum members here have been vociferous in their condemnation of Ann whilst supporting Gavin.

It's all Venn diagrams. Forum Member A may be a member of X subset of members. Forum Member B may be a member of Y subset of members. Forum Member C may be a member of both. Forum Member D of neither. Unless you mean specific people, I'm not sure you can post like this as a generality. You can't be sure of the intersections.
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Old 08-12-2010, 14:02
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I think is quite funny that people were moaning about it being a dancing competition when Ann was left in, yet are going to vote for Gavin.

That is very hypocritical. While not as bad as Ann, Gavin is still not a very good dancer. Most weeks he has been terrible. He got a high score last week so Ann got voted out.

Don't get me wrong, she deserved to go, but I have heard people say they are going to vote for Gavin, despite him being the worst dancer by a million miles, because he he is cute, tries hard or is funny! Hello????

You can't complain that it's supposed to be a dance show and then choose to vote someone even though you admit they are the worst dancer. I just find it odd and if someone as bad as him makes the final (he would be the weakest finalist ever) because of these votes, it will be ridiculous.

I highly doubt he will reach the finals, I could only see that happening if any of the fab fours fans don't vote. But even him getting this far ahead of much better dancers has shocked me. Especially as a lot of people think he is an arrogant idiot

Just my view


I think you have to give the girls that vote for Gavin but criticize Ann a bit of slack, because like Bruno they go all dizzy at the thought of Gavin's flesh flashing booty wobbling Chippendale impressions, he is the dancer trying to get to the final via the casting couch.
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Old 08-12-2010, 14:05
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Of course not.

You said you were happy he got this far - total dahnce purist fail.
Curses, I'd have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you pesky kids.
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Old 08-12-2010, 14:05
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For the record, I get him (I think most people do) - I really do enjoy his sense of humour, but I don't get his dancing. I find my mind wandering.
Ok, I stand corrected on that point. There have been a lot of celebs whose dancing I haven't got, some have even won - I wouldn't want him to win, but if Kara got to the final and he did as well I wouldn't complain.
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Old 08-12-2010, 14:07
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Ok, I stand corrected on that point. There have been a lot of celebs whose dancing I haven't got, some have even won - I wouldn't want him to win, but if Kara got to the final and he did as well I wouldn't complain.
Yes ideally I'd like Gavin, Kara & Matt to get through to the final and then I wouldn't mind who won.
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Old 08-12-2010, 14:07
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Plus, unlike Chris Hollins and Darren Gough, Gavin is still not a good dancer.
The key difference is that both Gough and Chris managed to, eventually, produce a "Wow" dance.

Gavin has not - and has not shown any signs of being able to, either.

I think there really is a double standard with some female voters, they will vote for Gavin because he is good looking and ignore that he can't dance, but condemn Ann for being a dancer because she is a middle aged woman they don't find hot
Basically, this.

I am female too by the way, and this just bugs me.
I am male and it bugs me.
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Old 08-12-2010, 14:08
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I think you have to give the girls that vote for Gavin but criticize Ann a bit of slack, because like Bruno they go all dizzy at the thought of Gavin's flesh flashing booty wobbling Chippendale impressions, he is the dancer trying to get to the final via the casting couch.
Thanks for those patronizing remarks.
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Old 08-12-2010, 14:11
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I think you have to give the girls that vote for Gavin but criticize Ann a bit of slack, because like Bruno they go all dizzy at the thought of Gavin's flesh flashing booty wobbling Chippendale impressions, he is the dancer trying to get to the final via the casting couch.
Seriously, Gav could drap himself naked across my couch with a come hiter look in his eye and I'd wander off and make a cup of tea - still voting for him on Saturday, probably.
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Old 08-12-2010, 14:13
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I think you have to give the girls that vote for Gavin but criticize Ann a bit of slack, because like Bruno they go all dizzy at the thought of Gavin's flesh flashing booty wobbling Chippendale impressions, he is the dancer trying to get to the final via the casting couch.
Oooh, I like this post. Shows some real passion

Again, my position is that if you attack one person for her massive lack of ability and attitude, then you should at least be mildly critical of another person for his mild lack of ability.
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Old 08-12-2010, 14:14
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I'm really not sure what the OP is complaining about.
Gavin would have gone out earlier
.. if there had not been a huge proportion of joke votes keeping the Widdy in for "entertainment value."

If the Widdy joke had only worn thin by round 3 or max round 4, then Gavin would have gone out ahead of Felicity, maybe - but then you can't depend on sports fans for not voting for a rugby hero whom they know rather than a couple of females whom they don't.


Neither Katya nor I believe that Gavin has a snowflake's chance in hell of getting through to the last three, but you can depend on it that she will produce two good routines for our Gav and will bully him until he gets it right.
He should have no problem swinging her about in the ridiculous swingathon


The GBP gets what it wishes for - you have to live with it.

Personally I think Gavin is watchable, because he's light on his feet and he's so much under the iron thumb of Katya.
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Old 08-12-2010, 14:14
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Seriously, Gav could drap himself naked across my couch with a come hiter look in his eye and I'd wander off and make a cup of tea - still voting for him on Saturday, probably.
Gavin would probably appreciate you pretending to be hard to get.
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Old 08-12-2010, 14:16
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Still annoys me that NO-ONE has commented on the major stumble by Dr Joker in the VW. (excepting Monkseal)

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Oh kassieq you must have missed the huge threadage about her stumble. It grew to epic proportions. Some of it was really silly too.
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Old 08-12-2010, 14:17
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Gavin would probably appreciate you pretending to be hard to get.
Are you calling me easy then Terry?
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Old 08-12-2010, 14:17
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Oooh, I like this post. Shows some real passion

Again, my position is that if you attack one person for her massive lack of ability and attitude, then you should at least be mildly critical of another person for his mild lack of ability.
Do you need a bigger spoon DJ

But was the BoD attacked just for her lack of ability - she didn't try, thought it was beneath her to learn to dance and was patronising to everyone. Rather have a trier and he is more interesting than a couple of people who do have ability.
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Old 08-12-2010, 14:20
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Are you calling me easy then Terry?
I'm not experienced enough in these matters to make such an assumption.
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Old 08-12-2010, 14:21
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I'm getting really fed up being told who I can and can't vote for when I don't vote for anyone!

I don't fancy Gavin, I don't think he's hot, I just genuinely think he's hilarious and can't bear the thought of ITT for a week without him with the ones that will be left.

These forums are meant to be a fun bit of nonsense to brighten our otherwise dull lives, because if we had exciting lives we wouldn't have time to be on here.

But there are so many sanctimonious, po-faced posters, telling me who is good and who is not and that I don't have the right to support who I want and that I'm a hypocrite.

I have my opinions of who I like and who I don't but never would I dream of telling another poster that there opinion is wrong or that they have to agree with my way because they obviously don't have many brain cells if they're going to vote for x, y or z.

I don't like Ann, never liked Ann and would have liked to have shot her out of the world's biggest cannon into the Thames, but that doesn't mean that I don't think anyone else had the right to support her, even vote for her if that is their wont.

Most Gavin supporters are tongue in cheek with their support, it's not that I want him to win, I just don't mind so much if others lose, specifically DeadNan and Psychotic Pammie, but if you want to vote for them, go for it, I'm not going to criticise you for it!
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Old 08-12-2010, 14:21
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Oh kassieq you must have missed the huge threadage about her stumble. It grew to epic proportions. Some of it was really silly too.
Woops, I think I must have, try to stay off the main board - unscheduled trips to Tenerifee have to be taken into account.

Also by being not commented on, I really meant by the judges, Karen Hardy and anyone on ITT, especially given that they showed the stumble the other night as part of a VT. I didn't expect the forumites to miss it.
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Old 08-12-2010, 14:24
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I'm not experienced enough in these matters to make such an assumption.
Then stop assuming that every female that votes for Gavin does so on the basis of his looks/body, because if you're making that assumption about me, I'll make the same one about your championing of Ann
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Old 08-12-2010, 14:25
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I'm getting really fed up being told who I can and can't vote for when I don't vote for anyone!

I don't fancy Gavin, I don't think he's hot, I just genuinely think he's hilarious and can't bear the thought of ITT for a week without him with the ones that will be left.

These forums are meant to be a fun bit of nonsense to brighten our otherwise dull lives, because if we had exciting lives we wouldn't have time to be on here.

But there are so many sanctimonious, po-faced posters, telling me who is good and who is not and that I don't have the right to support who I want and that I'm a hypocrite.

I have my opinions of who I like and who I don't but never would I dream of telling another poster that there opinion is wrong or that they have to agree with my way because they obviously don't have many brain cells if they're going to vote for x, y or z.

I don't like Ann, never liked Ann and would have liked to have shot her out of the world's biggest cannon into the Thames, but that doesn't mean that I don't think anyone else had the right to support her, even vote for her if that is their wont.

Most Gavin supporters are tongue in cheek with their support, it's not that I want him to win, I just don't mind so much if others lose, specifically DeadNan and Psychotic Pammie, but if you want to vote for them, go for it, I'm not going to criticise you for it!
and breathe. Alli, do you think we should just leave quietly and return to our home, as things are going I foresee a trip to Teneriffee for the two of us. There's wine, tattooed guitarists all waiting for us there.
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Old 08-12-2010, 14:26
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Then stop assuming that every female that votes for Gavin does so on the basis of his looks/body, because if you're making that assumption about me, I'll make the same one about your championing of Ann
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Old 08-12-2010, 14:28
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Do you need a bigger spoon DJ
I kind of like venom in posts.

And God knows it makes a refreshing change from 2,456 "Wonderful Widdy, Here's The Twitpic" threads...

But was the BoD attacked just for her lack of ability - she didn't try, thought it was beneath her to learn to dance and was patronising to everyone. Rather have a trier and he is more interesting than a couple of people who do have ability.
Sure - which is why I phrased my comment so carefully.
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Old 08-12-2010, 14:29
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... you got to love it! How come EVERY thread is morphing into an 'AW' one...

...argh! I thought she's gone already!

Anyway - I'll bite (again)

Peeps couldn't vote for AW in case a vote for her was deemed a vote for her politics. A lot of people couldn't (can't and never will) be able to separate politics from the person. Fair enough says I... but crashing on...

Gav is politically inert. Voting for Gav hasn't been construed as a vote for section 28, anti abortion or against female priests.

Some fms have been very honest about their distaste for AW being motivated by her politics. Others have been a bit shy about that (for reasons unknown).

How's THAT for giving the pachyderm a pokie!
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Old 08-12-2010, 14:29
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and breathe. Alli, do you think we should just leave quietly and return to our home, as things are going I foresee a trip to Teneriffee for the two of us. There's wine, tattooed guitarists all waiting for us there.


I think my post needed more smilies because it came across as more serious than I intended. I was just trying to make the point that it is a discussion board and so there will be all opinions and as far as I'm concerned all opinions are welcome!

And make it diet pepsi and I'm there! Can you imagine me WITH alcohol? Very scary thought!
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Old 08-12-2010, 14:29
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Then stop assuming that every female that votes for Gavin does so on the basis of his looks/body, because if you're making that assumption about me, I'll make the same one about your championing of Ann
Sorry if I touched a nerve, but the use of the casting couch by Gavin to prey on the girls dizzy weakness is as obvious as his fake tan.
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Old 08-12-2010, 14:30
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I'm getting really fed up being told who I can and can't vote for when I don't vote for anyone!

I don't fancy Gavin, I don't think he's hot, I just genuinely think he's hilarious and can't bear the thought of ITT for a week without him with the ones that will be left.

These forums are meant to be a fun bit of nonsense to brighten our otherwise dull lives, because if we had exciting lives we wouldn't have time to be on here.

But there are so many sanctimonious, po-faced posters, telling me who is good and who is not and that I don't have the right to support who I want and that I'm a hypocrite.

I have my opinions of who I like and who I don't but never would I dream of telling another poster that there opinion is wrong or that they have to agree with my way because they obviously don't have many brain cells if they're going to vote for x, y or z.

I don't like Ann, never liked Ann and would have liked to have shot her out of the world's biggest cannon into the Thames, but that doesn't mean that I don't think anyone else had the right to support her, even vote for her if that is their wont.

Most Gavin supporters are tongue in cheek with their support, it's not that I want him to win, I just don't mind so much if others lose, specifically DeadNan and Psychotic Pammie, but if you want to vote for them, go for it, I'm not going to criticise you for it!
The thing is, you could have replaced "Gavin" with "Ann" throughout that post, if you'd made it a week ago.

If you'd have been happy with that, OK. If you wouldn't have agreed with it, though, then it's at best somewhat inconsistent and at worst hypocritical.
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