As long as he is back in the Welsh 12 shirt come February of next year I don't care if Gavin wins or loses. Just get back to doing what you do best please and don't go spraining your ankle or something else equally ridiculous. Reality programmes, Jeez, c'mon Gav you got plenty more to give.

Blimey.

Tell you what, here's an idea.

How about if people read the flippin' OP?

Instead of, say, assuming "Oh this must be an anti-Gavin thread, I'll just weigh in with my uninformed blether to clog the thread up?"

Just a suggestion.

I don't think I have missed the point. The OP's accusation only sticks if people objected to Ann's persistence solely because she was a crap dancer instead of that plus her negative/lazy attitude. I wanted the OP to acknowledge the fact that (unlike Ann) Gavin is making an effort/putting the hours in.

My point that was people objected to Ann because of her "won't do this/won't do that" attitude just as much as her crap dancing (if not more so), and that some of the people going on about SCD being a dancing competition were not necessarily arguing that the best dancer should win. They just didn't want a contestant with a negative/lazy attitude to win.

But if we *do* read the flippin' OP, we find there's an equally wrongheaded assumption: the subset of forum members who disliked Ann because she was the worst dancer (and not for the whole host of other reasons Ann was disliked that were exhaustively discussed on here) EQUALS the subset of forum members who are now voting for Gavin, whilst simultaneously acknowledging he's the worst dancer left.

Since the thread is based on a likely false assumption, how can it be made worse by other people making potentially false assumptions?!

The OP's argument was that the people who moaned about Ann/wanted her out because "SCD is a dancing competition" should also be moaning about Gavin and definitely not voting for him.

But that only sticks if you ignore Ann's apalling anti-dance/prudish attitude and think that "SCD is a dancing competition" can only mean "wanting the best dancer to win".

To right I would have hated Ann to have won for many reasons, her lack of dancing , her rudeness , her whole persona andd her smugness that she was so sure she was hilarious

Gavin , if he did win , which would be a very big win I would not mind as he has worked hard , has tried hard and has improved .

On top of all this he has been genuinely funny and made me LOL frequently throughout the series

In that respect, to be honest, though I acknowlege that Scott and Pamela are far better dancers than him , I would preffer him to win as both have annoyed me and I dont really enjoy quite a lot of their dances.

I think it would be a major miriacle if Gavin did win over those 2 but I find nothing hypocritical in voting for the one who has tried hard and entertained me

I thought it was Gavin's chest that was causing all the girls to go dizzy and create this Gavin voting frenzy, it sounds as though he is multi talented.

I think that saying that Gavin is getting the votes because he is fit isn't entirely true. Yes, obviously some people think he is, but others think Scott and Matt are.
The reason Gavin gets my vote is due to his sense of humour, his interviews and VT's are always hilarious. Plus you can tell that he has worked so hard to improve.

I don't like the tone that you are using- very sarcastic and argumentative.