Did I said I know that? No. I expressed my opinion ... "I just feel" and "I don't buy ..." and that's what the forums are for - expressing an opinion. And that's what makes them fun! It's like a good old fashioned argument in the pub/at work/wherever. So get down off that lofty dobbin and join the rest of us enjoying ourselves.

"Ive trained James to not use the word "old'"

"What do we say James?"

Now that's all I am saying about her. I don't like to be nasty about the celebs as I appreciate all their dancing even if I am not keen on them as people. I am sure those I havent taken to wouldnt take to me either. That's life.

But I don't see the need to ask for trouble, as I do believe your OP would do. If people offer up their reasons for disliking Pamela, do you think she would enjoy reading them? Or her family and friends? Would it make anyone who did like her, like her less?

Really it is a pointless thread. Negative anyway. Why not try to celebrate the dance now we are coming to the end of the series, instead of hand-wringing over personality, eh? I'll try if you will

Should only criticise her as a dancer; but she is well good as a dancer.

If she was really doing that, then she would be less OTT. Of all the contestants left, she is the one who isn't really censoring herself.

I don't hate pamela but I think her dancing is way overrated (that Charleston!) and I don't like the facial expressions and gushing

it doesn't help that I dislike James intensely either

I have said this so often now and it's driven me nuts. Psychologists cannot read other people's minds and they cannot manipulate people into anything. So many people here went on about Pamela's substandard degree in one of the weird American colleges or online or whatever (I still haven't investigated), but people still buy into the stereotypical idea of what a psychologist is. Don't believe all the sh*t.

By the way if you believe she manipulates you, than you cannot have been manipulated, and the word of the use "we" is probably an exaggeration as well.

This seems to explain the system they use in California and how it relates to the rest of the states.
I think Pamela qualified from the California Graduate Institute.

http://www.credentialwatch.org/non/c...approved.shtml

There seems to be a myriad of characteristics of Pamela which people find really annoying. At most, they might be a slight irritation to me in larger doses, and I find a number of positives to her as well.

I'd be happy to spend time with this Pamela.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11910415

Who amongst us knows the 'real' anyone? Quite.

So she's a psycho whatever... I doubt she has stuck to a rigid game plan for all these weeks, the mask would surely slip at some point? Maybe as one of the older generation she just realises it's polite to thank people for spending their money and time on her.

Both she and Kara and fantastic for differing reasons. I personally slightly prefer Pamela for many reasons, that doesn't mean I don't and can't enjoy Kara's technical beauty. This reminds of football fans, if you love one you have to hate the other!

It's not that I have the issue with it's the automatic assumption at the start she's playing a game. She maybe, she may not be, she may be gushing because that's who is and thanking everyone and saying she's having a lot of fun because she is or she may be doing it to garner favour. She may not be. I enjoy debate but I don't like the assumption that you're opinion of someone is biased on anything other than your opinion.

I like Pammy but I can understand why a lot of people don't - she's a marmite personality which is why I think I like her much as I like Kara and Matt it would boring if everyone was like them. What annoys me is the bitching that her dancing and the conspiracies surrounding her dancing - yes Kara deserved a 40 but that doesn't automatically mean Pamela didn't and there was a conspiracy to why she got one.

There isn't "so much hate". So technically, you are wrong.

Therefore this entire thread is a "when did you stop beating your wife" question.

Tell you what, come back when you've managed to formulate a valid question, yes?