Has anyone considered that neither or them might make it? It's only a few weeks since Tess was wittering on about how there weren't many boys left in the competition and it was all about girl power and five weeks on and Scott, Gavin and Matt are still in contention and just two females are left. (Admittedly one had to fall by the wayside for sheer inability and incompetence.) And four or five weeks ago who would have thought Gavin would be in the semis?

I think the final should be Kara, Pam and Scott or Kara, Pam, Matt - and at this stage Kara should go on to beat Scott in the show dance. But look at last year with Ali and Brian. It didn't happen. And Zoe and Ian also lost out as did Rachel and Vincent in previous years.

It always seems to be a male celeb that has the greatest chance of winning - and like last year I agree with the poster above who thinks we should be worrying more about Gavin. If he does just one great dance - like Chris did last year in the Charleston - perhaps he'll have it in the bag.

Anyway I think we should all be prepared for tears before bedtime. The worst outcome will be a Kara, Gavin, Matt final - because then unfairly Kara might not be in the final and is unlikely to win.

Again Scott should be in the final (excusing his past few weeks as Matt was forgiven his in 2007) as he's a fantastic dancer. To my mind the most exciting final would be Kara and Artem versus Scott and Natalie. They both want the title and will go out to dance their socks off.

Matt and Aliona are a worry if they reach the final show dance - I already have visions of some sort of whacky Erin and Colin fiasco!!

I would prefer Kara in the final I like her grace and elegance - she looks amazing, and is a joy to watch !

This. Represent women - honestly what is that all about? like women are either represnted by a beautiful 20 soemthing who lives a life 99% of women don't or a an older attractive women who lives a life 99% of women don't

It will be a travesty if Kara doesn't make the final, she is my favourite female dancer ever. Equally Pam has also been good from the start. neither of them though represent me

Pamela for me - no desperate ex or current EastEnders to make the final, thank you. Go back to Walford - that's the inevitable future for Kara.

Purely on technical dancing, would have to be Kara.

Not that simple though. We all take into account, personality, charisma amongst other things.

For me Pamela is more interesting as a person, has had a brilliant 'journey', her relationship with her partner is more fun and she can dance very well.

So as technically wonderful and sweet as Kara is, I would rather see Pamela in the final. I just find her so much more interesting as a performer and person.

I would much rather see Kara there than Pamela. I enjoy Kara's dancing and for me she is the best one there (and I say that as a huge Matt fan).

Pamela is great and has been entertaining but her latin is very clumpy.

Please don't take offence, but what 'journey' has Pamela had? She started at the top of the leader board in the first week, has been at the top several times throughout the series and was top again last weekend. In the traditional sense, (starting badly and getting better), Gavin has had more of a journey, so too Kara, though she never was that bad.

For me both, for different reasons. Kara is a beautiful dancer, and has lots of potential, grace and elegance.

Pamela has really embraced the experience, really throws herself into it and has danced beautifully for most of the time.

To a certain degree I would like to see Pamela's showdance rather than Kara's. I'm sure Kara's would be fantastic, but I fear we've already seen what it will look like because of Artem's choreography. Because James has stuck to a more traditional choreography there seems to be more scope to wow.

I fear that both could lose out. Scott has two good dances, Matt seems quite popular (based on the board), and Gavin seems to acquire new fans every single second.

Personally, I think it's only Gavin who's had any journey, and it's been a blimin' tough one. You can actually see him learning the steps.

The other four have more natural ability and are working hard....and loosing weight. So, I suppose if it's a weight-lose journey we're talking about then Pamela is the winner.

If Pamela made it through, I think it would be largely due to the pro-James vote.

Have strong feeling there will be two women but only one man in the final.

Is that the same pro-James vote that got him so far in the past

No offence taken at all. The journey for me isn't about their scores or position on the board. I've watched Pamela grow in confidence, regain her youth, have fun, be witty, be her own woman out of Billy's shadow again.

Kara was excellent on her first dance and seems to have remained the same more or less, more technical ability, a little more confidence perhaps.

Gavin certainly has had a journey but the thread wasn't about him so...

Exactly! More likely that James reduces votes. I like him but many don't.

I couldn't care less about the 'journey' but all but two have had one, I would say. Gavin obviously would be first pick - he's gone from wooden and stiff to slightly less wooden and stiff. Scott's sort of had one too only the wrong way round - started out excellent and got progressively worse. Kara started great and has upgraded to magnificent, so that's also sort of a journey. But the two who haven't moved, in my opinion, have been Matt who has been good from the start with no improvement and Pamela who has been good from the start with no improvement.

I really don't think Pamela would recognise herself in that description of her! She is having a great time on the show and that is good to see but I suspect she is the type of person who enjoys herself no matter where she is (and good for her! ) and I very much doubt she has ever seen herself as ever being in Billy's shadow

People keep saying that but I don't get it - because Artem has wowed on every dance, we should want someone else to do a showdance? Some of James' dances this year I have really hated: the Charleston and the cha cha spring to mind. I didn't hate the AS, tango or the VW but I think Pamela turned them into a joke with her OTT gurning.
I think Pamela's showdance would just be a typical American Smooth to be honest - would much rather see what Artem can do.

Well I can't believe there would be many lifts in it - it would be too much for James.

Billy is far and away the biggest star, the one people would fawn all over. It may not matter at all to Pamela but as she had some success herself, it may grate.

I agree she is obviously having a wonderful time and that is a part of why I like her...also prior to the show start I thought I would loathe her, so it was a total turnaround of my judgement. I thought previously I would love Kara but apart from recognising her talent I find her slightly wishy washy. Different strokes and all that.

Why? As a dancer he is fit and strong. She has lost loads of weight and is hardly obese. Should be no problem at all.

James has been "rehabilitated" this year! Honest, it's fashionable to be still "forgiving Anton" but "warming up to James".

I agree that Billy may be the biggest 'star' but I don't think Pamela has the type of personality to be in anyone's shadow. She is far too big a personality herself.

The public may be seeing her in a different light but I doubt very much that in her own head she was ever anything other than absolutely his equal, as she was.

I just like the fact that she is obviously having a great time. I don't think lack of confidence has ever been a problem.

Definately Kara.

Well I think it's down to individual tastes. I don't think James would do a American Smooth, I think he would try to prove that Pamela can do something else. With regards to Kara, her AT, Tango, American Smooth and Paso all looked the same. Don't get me wrong they were beautiful dances, I don't have anything against her personality or Artem, but if you get a showdance type showdance for all the dances, there is less scope to wow. It's my opinion of course, others are allowed to disagree


The point that James cannot lift Pamela sounds rather strange (no offence intended). Pamela was able to lift James and he has lifted her. As far as I understand it's more important to get the technique right (e.g. Gavin is strong, but his lift didn't work).

Apart from that, however much people dislike Pamela, I agree with sofajudge, she is not obese and she has lost the weight. You can at least give her credit for that (she is working hard).

Not obese of course but quite solid

Has big boobs and an hour glass figure. She looked pretty slim in those Grease pants.

Whatever happened to the sisterhood!