That was the worst thing he did. He did sound a complete idiot, mind you.

Stella asking the tourists if they thought the graffiti was a banksy was just as daft as Jamie's statement.

Overall Jamie looked alot more at home than Stella with the actual tour and Jamie's punters looked far happier.

Agreed.

But you aren't a foreign tourist with a generous budget. Anyone coming to London to stay has to have plenty of spending money. I think £10 is too much for those awful tours, but London is an expensive destination and people will pay a lot more than £20.

Personally I'd rather buy a travel card and a guide book and go to the sights I want to see, but some people like to be conducted around, I guess they feel they will miss out on something, like London's second larget river.

I'm Irish and was still living in Ireland at the time. And we saw lots of London on the cheap.

Apologies, I was going by your current location. Shouldn't have assumed. As I said I'd do it myself on the cheap too. But for every tight fisted visitor like us, there'll be one flush with cash they can't wait to spend.

Yeah, I guess. It certainly explains people pissing away good money at Madame Tussauds!

Not to mention spending a couple of hours in the queue for the privilege. You get the Planetarium thrown in free, but you've nearly lost the will to live by the time you get there.

Can't understand the appeal of Madame Tussauds myself personally, though I'd find the planetarium interesting. My favourite places to visit in London are the V&A and the Tate Modern.

The only reason Tussaud's is worth visiting is to find out how short the royal family are. Assuming it is the royal family as the resemblance isn't great.

I remember being similarly amazed seeing one of Humphrey Bogart's suits in the Warner Brothers studio museum (well worth the admission BTW). Tiny was not the word.

I do blame Stella the most, she was the one who was "passionate, really passionate" about the "Cockney Tour"!

The choice of tour was rubbish. Surely there was a general sight seeing tour they could have done which would have been the most profitable one to have gone for?

Stuart was the next one to blame and Liz the last.

As Sid said, this task had nothing to do with being a good tour guide.
As with last week where most of the contestants treated the task as a treasure hunt, the whole point was missed.
Dim or what?
Stella's nasal voice starts to grate, as does Sandra's whine.
And their lack of knowledge about elementary facts of London was pretty woeful.

Yes, well, I'll go with Lord Sugar and his team's expert analysis!

They all equally agreed the tour and all backed it 100%. Stella was passionate about doing it, not just about choosing it, which they all were and the other 2 agreed she was the best person to do it. It's hard to do and she was judged to have wholly overcome previous criticism in undertaking it, so she used this task wisely.

Liz lost hands down in the boardroom. Any of them could go at this stage and she gave the weakest performance. It was made clear she had agreed the pricing and the deal - Stuart presented it, but they all agreed that too. What she had to do was pin the blame on Stuart which she didn't do or say something totally winning about herself which she didn't do either.

From what we saw Stella gave a succinct account of her record on the show. She has the most wins, she was in first place. Liz let Stuart sell himself strong and hard yet her own resume was unoriginal and weak. I've interviewed thousands of people thousands are like her. The Stellas and Stuarts just manage to stand out. Liz didn't, not at this late stage. That's why Sugar made the comment about needing to be special.

But they shouldn't stand out because any employer with a brain could see that Stuart was talking hyperbolic immature nonsense. Thats next week's show. The issue was that Sugar seemed to be seeing it as positive or was determined to keep stuart for ratings next week. To counter that, Liz had to tell Sugar that no one with a brain would be taken in by that or point out that being driven by ratings was wrong. She then had to move into the dangerous ground of assessing Stuart and probably Stella properly for him. If she had given him a list of Stuart's errors and failings, Sugar would have still sided with someone he saw himself in, or wanted there next week . If she had pointed out that she had more business acumen than Stella and that Stella's experience with the truffles last week alone suggested Stella had very little, Sugar would have attacked her for challenging his decision.

Like Kate before, Liz has nowhere to go in the argument . The show doesn't give anyone an impressive record so she can't argue from that and Stella's record is better - albeit with no distinct highs either and lots of random results. She can't mention academic success and effort because Lord Sugar doesn't value that. Reading her CV out against Stuart's hot air won't work. She can't put out more hot air than Stuart.

Its not an unique situation , many people who do interviews look for themselves and pick similarly incapable people who can blag their way through an interview. Lord Sugar though is a particularly bad case of someone who thinks in terms of his biases and sees mostly what he wants to.

What everyone has missed is that she got no tips whereas Jamie got plenty.
She should have gone the day before to look over her patch like he did not send the others.
Just reading books wont tell you the way.
To me it looks like although she works in the city she has never stepped 'across the road' to the East end,. An entirely different place. Anyone who has been knows where Tubby Isaacs is. He has been there for many many years.

He said that he always started off at £35 and then negotiated downwards. The other team started at £20. Karren was right - tourists don't want to haggle, they want to buy tickets.


There's nothing illogical about that. He asks her whether she didn't hide herself in the background. She replies that no, she was attempting to address the criticisms of her that had been made in the boardroom in previous weeks. Surallen thinks that's fair enough.


Liz herself admitted that she was as much to blame for the pricing as Stubags.

LS made several comments about how shrewd and intelligent Stella is, so he is a fan of hers I think. He has made a big deal of her being too corporate for his liking, but maybe this is a red herring... I also think she defends herself quite well in the boardroom, is to the point and backs it up with examples, as opposed to Stuart who waffles wih no substance, and of course Liz made the fatal mistake of mentioning her education.

I also think Stella will come out best in the interview process.

Interestlying, I was SO not a fan of Stella at the start of the series, and had backed Liz for the win, but last night, I wanted Stella to stay over Liz.

i think lord alan was impressed that she tried to go out of her comfort zone this week especially so put her ahead of liz who he doesnt think has any spark

He is looking for an individual, someone who stands out, in the boardroom she failed to dismiss Stewart the Brand's claims about himself...she just seemed to sit there.

Look at what he boasted about himself, ideas, sales, make money he failed on all those last night.

Thats quite patronising, implying that only Sugars people are experts, really? What makes them better in their judgement?!

They didn't all agree 100%, Stella was pushing for it, Stuart was calculating to a large extent that if they lost, she would take the fall. For me, Stella was to blame the most.

I think Sugar liked the Cockney tour because he's a Londoner himself, bit of favourtism on that aspect.

Stella's the only one with an ability to see a bigger picture IMO

Stuart and Liz still brought in £800 of profit, not that bad really. I think the OP is correct, Stella's poor performance as a tour guide should have been taken into account? Are you immune from culpability because you led a load of tourists on a wild goose chase promising them the real cockney tour?

Jamie got complimented as a tour guide by Nick, equally, Stella should have been chastized for her ineptitude by Karren

I dont know why you call it profit. Do you think the buses are free for the show. What about all the printing costs, and the uniforms.

The bus was free, it was laid on for them, Sir Al paid for it.

The point was that neither Stella nor Jamie's performance made a significant difference to the result of the task. And that was all that mattered to Sugar.

Sugar seems to have managed to go down in my opinion a little bit each of the last two weeks. Last week he overlooked blatant lying. This week he as good as said that the quality of the tour was irrelevant because they'd already sold the tickets. The fact that these trips form part of someone's holiday and they are entitled to good value doesn't seem to occur to him.

In much the same way that designing down to a price and selling shoddy, unreliable, electronics never bothered him back when he was starting out.

I'm afraid he's little more than a glorified spiv with very little in the way of integrity.

And he'd agree with you

End of the day, Sugar DID say well done to Jamie on his work. So it was an important factor of the task.