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Dollystanford
10-12-2010
I've been feeling it's a fix for Pamela to get to the final!!
KipsKaz
10-12-2010
I definately feel the producers are pushing for a female to win this year that's for sure.
SB!
10-12-2010
but, an
Jackster31
10-12-2010
Originally Posted by Tall Paul:
“he did misfire, but the judges just tore him apart.”

Well put TP but his reaction to the criticism resembled one of a toddler about to have a total meltdown
Tall Paul
10-12-2010
Originally Posted by Jackster31:
“Well put TP but his reaction to the criticism resembled one of a toddler about to have a total meltdown”

pleased someone has thought positive of me, thank you, greatly appreciated.
DanceCrazyNo1
11-12-2010
I feel a bit disappointed tonight but all the negative posts about a variety of things, but criticising Kara who has only been top of the leaderboard once before (hardly judges favourite from week one) and tonight went second not first like the OP says, is a bit ridiculous. she did the best dance so she came top, that's what happened and congratualtions to her for pulling off such a complicated routine.
Tall Paul
11-12-2010
Originally Posted by DanceCrazyNo1:
“I feel a bit disappointed tonight but all the negative posts about a variety of things, but criticising Kara who has only been top of the leaderboard once before (hardly judges favourite from week one) and tonight went second not first like the OP says, is a bit ridiculous. she did the best dance so she came top, that's what happened and congratualtions to her for pulling off such a complicated routine.”

I'm trying to be as diplomatic as possible on this one, as I've voted Kara too.
TerryM22
11-12-2010
Originally Posted by Tall Paul:
“he did misfire, but the judges just tore him apart.”


Your quite right, it was totally uncalled for.
petertard
11-12-2010
At last, it has become unfixed, actually judging on what is presented in dance terms. Less manipulated than other weeks. Hence, the most deserving get to the top, Kara.
Tall Paul
11-12-2010
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“Your quite right, it was totally uncalled for.”

another person who agrees with me, god I'm doing something right tonight lol.
cezzy
11-12-2010
I love the threads and comments when a FM's favourite doesn't get the marks they believe they should have. I'm in full agreement with the scores tonight; Kara deserves her top spot - so far....
Tall Paul
11-12-2010
Originally Posted by petertard:
“At last, it has become unfixed, actually judging on what is presented in dance terms. Less manipulated than other weeks. Hence, the most deserving get to the top, Kara.”

begining to think whether Alesha, Len and Bruno are at the moment like cocky businessmen and women. They have certainly seemed like it. Not happy of the slightest with their marketting of certain contestants at all.
RichmondBlue
11-12-2010
Kara deserved her marks tonight, she was clearly the best dancer.
Pamela was overmarked..yet again, while Matt was undermarked..yet again. Once, and it's just one of those things, twice and it's just coincidence, but three or more times ?
Tall Paul
11-12-2010
Originally Posted by RichmondBlue:
“Kara deserved her marks tonight, she was clearly the best dancer.
Pamela was overmarked..yet again, while Matt was undermarked..yet again. Once, and it's just one of those things, twice and it's just coincidence, but three or more times ?”

reckon it's coincedence myself.
Sam Weiss
11-12-2010
You've used the wrong term.

In the, how can we put it... the sports "entertainment" business (i.e., the controlled/choreographed competitions) the proper term is "a work".

The judges' remarks, ITT (and the key guests like Karen Hardy), the choice by the producer of whom to emphasize, and so on are intended to get the maximum amount of responses.

By "responses" I mean viewers, phone calls, free press in the tabloids, etc.

So yes, SCD is not strictly a dance competition. It is a work.
Gill P
11-12-2010
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“Your quite right, it was totally uncalled for.”

What made me annoyed was that Aliona didn't take any of the blame and just stood there letting him be torn apart!
TerryM22
11-12-2010
Originally Posted by Gill P:
“What made me annoyed was that Aliona didn't take any of the blame and just stood there letting him be torn apart!”

Yes it was very unfair.
flossieblossom
11-12-2010
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“Yes it was very unfair.”

I felt very sorry for him. He was clearly taken aback by the comments.
Can't help feeling, as in other weeks that there is manipulation at work. Could even be reverse psychology - people vote for Matt out of sheer outrage over his treatment?

Meanwhile......the judges continue to overmark Pamela and totally ignore ungainly, wobbly performances.

Interesting......
Midsomer Madnes
11-12-2010
Originally Posted by Dollystanford:
“I've been feeling it's a fix for Pamela to get to the final!!”

Totally agree with that one...their swing-a-thon was dire but they stayed in longer than Scott and Natalie? Judges should have gone to Specsavers!

Hope Pamela goes out first tonight...

Team Gav (even though I know he's useless!) he will get my vote, along with Kara who I think thoroughly deserves to win!
lach doch mal
11-12-2010
Originally Posted by flossieblossom:
“I felt very sorry for him. He was clearly taken aback by the comments.
Can't help feeling, as in other weeks that there is manipulation at work. Could even be reverse psychology - people vote for Matt out of sheer outrage over his treatment?

Meanwhile......the judges continue to overmark Pamela and totally ignore ungainly, wobbly performances.

Interesting......”

I don't think Matt's dance deserved a higher score than Pamela's or deserved to be higher on the leader board. It wasn't a good dance, too many lifts that didn't fit the dance, the gyrating on the floor was horrible and some of Matt's movements were horrible.

Aliona should have taken the blame, but I don't think she has any insight into the fact that she is responsible for this.

Pamela might not be the best, but her Paso was better than Matt's salsa (and thus deserved to be higher).
TerryM22
11-12-2010
Originally Posted by flossieblossom:
“I felt very sorry for him. He was clearly taken aback by the comments.
Can't help feeling, as in other weeks that there is manipulation at work. Could even be reverse psychology - people vote for Matt out of sheer outrage over his treatment?

Meanwhile......the judges continue to overmark Pamela and totally ignore ungainly, wobbly performances.

Interesting......”

I think its time for an ejector seat clause in the judges contracts. If they personally insult or are nasty to any of the dancers they immediately get ejected from the show and replaced. Its this sort of behavior from the judges that spoils the show for the viewers.
Seymour
11-12-2010
I thought all the dances last night were under par,I did think Kara's VW and Matt's Salsa were first and second best of the night..It looks like the judges would like a Pamela and James win, they have been overmarked most weeks.
TylerTango
11-12-2010
I can't even believe this thread is still alive... though thankfully the majority of posts have been sane.

If the judges wanted Kara to win why score her American Smooth a 6?
If the judges wanted Kara to win why score her Tango 38, when even Karen Hardy said she'd been undermarked?

Must I continue...
Osusana
11-12-2010
Originally Posted by Tangerine_82:
“I don't think they do, Matt's the Beeb's golden boy. He just didn't dance an already sub-standard routine very well. It was the two things coming together that got to him tonight I'm afraid. I blame Aliona though, not Matt.”

Very true
Matt's salsa was so wooden I could not believe it having seen him perform so well before. It was the clunkiest salsa I've seen. It does seem to be Aliona's fault for the choreography though.

Matt got the marks he deserved last night
warszawa
11-12-2010
Originally Posted by Osusana:
“Very true
Matt's salsa was so wooden I could not believe it having seen him perform so well before. It was the clunkiest salsa I've seen. It does seem to be Aliona's fault for the choreography though.

Matt got the marks he deserved last night”

the marks,yes.the comments,no.
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