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Old 11-12-2010, 11:34
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I thought all the dances last night were under par,I did think Kara's VW and Matt's Salsa were first and second best of the night..It looks like the judges would like a Pamela and James win, they have been overmarked most weeks.
I agree with most of that..though I did think Kara was superb again last night.
The rest were all a bit sub-par (excepting Gavin who is improving)..but I Agree with you, and think Matt was the "best of the rest".
I also believe that the Judges want Pamela in the final (not necessarily to win the entire thing) and they are arranging the leader board accordingly. I guess that means Matt must be way ahead in the public vote, so they can safely mark him down without affecting his chances ?
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Old 11-12-2010, 12:38
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I don't think they do, Matt's the Beeb's golden boy. He just didn't dance an already sub-standard routine very well. It was the two things coming together that got to him tonight I'm afraid. I blame Aliona though, not Matt.
He is still ten times better than Gavin the plank
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Old 11-12-2010, 12:50
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Exactly. And if anyone thinks it's been fixed for Kara to win from the start they are talking absolute rubbish. For one thing, Matt's been the bookies' favourite since the beginning. Secondly, the BBC can't influence the public vote, as a certain poster has been stridently reminding us for weeks. Big volte face on his part now .
I'm not convinced about that either.There is potential to give engaged to people when they call. That means it can be fixed. Considering the BBC track record with this stuff it would not surprise me. On the otherhand I didn't watch it the football was more interesting and there is nobody left in SCD worth the effort.
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Old 11-12-2010, 13:21
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Pamela did dance first, but I agree the show has been fixed for Kara to win right from the start, the same as the guy who won dancing on ice.
No need to fix anything for Kara - she dances beautifully.

For as long as Gavin is still in that's where I'll throw my votes, but should he go tonight I'll be hoping for a Kara v Matt final.
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Old 11-12-2010, 13:24
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OP - I can't believe the number of anti Kara threads you've started.

What has she done to you?
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Old 11-12-2010, 13:29
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I agree with most of that..though I did think Kara was superb again last night.
The rest were all a bit sub-par (excepting Gavin who is improving)..but I Agree with you, and think Matt was the "best of the rest".
I also believe that the Judges want Pamela in the final (not necessarily to win the entire thing) and they are arranging the leader board accordingly. I guess that means Matt must be way ahead in the public vote, so they can safely mark him down without affecting his chances ?
I actually think marking him down enhances his chances as he gets his, already large, share of the public vote swelled by a sympathy vote. In that way I do think that if they are trying for a fix, it will backfire as one of their favourites will inevitably go instead of Matt.
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Old 11-12-2010, 14:43
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OP - I can't believe the number of anti Kara threads you've started.

What has she done to you?
Probably knocked their favourite off the top of the leaderboard.
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Old 11-12-2010, 15:03
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He is still ten times better than Gavin the plank
Yes, Matt's a much better dance than Gavin. I doubt that's up for debate even from the most diehard of Gavin fans.
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Old 11-12-2010, 15:11
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No need to fix anything for Kara - she dances beautifully.

For as long as Gavin is still in that's where I'll throw my votes, but should he go tonight I'll be hoping for a Kara v Matt final.
If it is fixed it isn't for Kara's benefit I am sure , nor for Matt's .
It is more to do with who the judges want to have in the semi and how they think they can ensure that .
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Old 11-12-2010, 15:16
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Very true
Matt's salsa was so wooden I could not believe it having seen him perform so well before. It was the clunkiest salsa I've seen. It does seem to be Aliona's fault for the choreography though.

Matt got the marks he deserved last night
You obviously haven't seen many salsa on this show

There have been so many rubbish salsas in the last 4 years .This was dance gold in comparison
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Old 11-12-2010, 15:24
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I just can't take people seriously when they shriek "Fix! Fix!".
Well, it sometimes makes me wonder if I'm missing something - why can't I get that worked up about a piece of light entertainment fluff?
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Old 11-12-2010, 16:43
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I don't think they do, Matt's the Beeb's golden boy. He just didn't dance an already sub-standard routine very well. It was the two things coming together that got to him tonight I'm afraid. I blame Aliona though, not Matt.
The worst things about the routine were Aliona into Matt's arms from the judges' table (it's become boring) and the lifts - she seemed to have forgotten to choreograph a salsa. Only 1 mark above Gavin who has no real sense of rhythm - still his best latin dance though.

Just realised whose post I'm replying to. Kara is going to win so you can stop dissing the main opposition.
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Old 11-12-2010, 16:50
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If it's been a fix from the start for her to win, then how come she's been undermarked every single week?
THIS !!!
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Old 11-12-2010, 17:05
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I think that Kara deserved better marks earlier on but the judges were too busy supporting Scott. When he flagged, they probably realised that they needed to focus on how good Kara is. They're still, supporting Scott of course.
I've not been voting for Kara but it is annoying that she wasn't hailed as being b. good much earlier when she obviously was.
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Old 11-12-2010, 17:18
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If anything, apart from some rather favourable exposure on other programmes as had last year's winner, another BBC employee, Matt going last could be construed as a "fix." In that should the judges have wished according to another "conspiracy theory" they could have placed him anywhere on the leader board.

I think the BBC has also been "helpful" to Matt, in the selection of clips shown on ITT, as they were to Emma Bunton, as they didn't want her to go out before she sang (or mimed) on CIN night, but they can't influence the judges or the public vote more than that.

He did himself no favours last night with a mediocre performance and his "not best pleased" reaction after it.

But I think his Countryfile fans will save him tonight.
Either Pam or Scott to go out with Gavin.
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