Should the judges give a choreography score separately?

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thenetworkbabe

11-12-2010

Originally Posted by marinamau:
“I agree that some routines are better than others, and some are wrong for the description, but if a celeb produces perfect steps of a crap routine it is not her or his fault, it is the pro. If the score is not judging the pros job then the contents of the routine should not matter.

What I am trying to say is that I can accept either scenario, the one that only considers the celebs part or one that considers both. What I can't accept is that sometimes it seems that the routine's matter for some contestants and sometimes it doesn't.

That is my frustration.”

Agree its frustrating (even more so on DOI because the routines are all assigned by someone else so not even the pro on the team is responsible) You can't give someone 10 though for perfectly performing that they are given if what they are given isn't very much or its wrong. On the other hand Pamela is near enough to getting a full routine not to lose anything on their current scale if she perfroms it well.

The only answer to the Pamela/Kara problem is to make 9 the top mark for someone who goes as far as Pamela and mark everyone else lower accordingly. But you still end up with a problem as Kara can't still get a higher mark than Pamela until she performs perfectly. If you had decimal points you would give Kara 9.5 for a top tariff routine with a slight error and Pamela 9 for a routine at the next level down without - but they don't have any mark between 9 and 10 and they have been marking the weak people higher for a reason.

marinamau

11-12-2010

Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Agree its frustrating (even more so on DOI because the routines are all assigned by someone else so not even the pro on the team is responsible) You can't give someone 10 though for perfectly performing that they are given if what they are given isn't very much or its wrong. On the other hand Pamela is near enough to getting a full routine not to lose anything on their current scale if she perfroms it well.

The only answer to the Pamela/Kara problem is to make 9 the top mark for someone who goes as far as Pamela and mark everyone else lower accordingly. But you still end up with a problem as Kara can't still get a higher mark than Pamela until she performs perfectly. If you had decimal points you would give Kara 9.5 for a top tariff routine with a slight error and Pamela 9 for a routine at the next level down without - but they don't have any mark between 9 and 10 and they have been marking the weak people higher for a reason.”

Yes, I do agree. that is why I thought that it may have been a possibility to mark out of 10 the celeb's performance and execution, and sparately out of 5 for the better more elaborate routine. Combine those two scores and you get a real comparison.
But I agree that that would maybe be too complex and time consuming.

Rykard

12-12-2010

how about if the pro submitted their dance to the judges and they judged how well the celeb danced it? this wouldn't directly be marking the choreography but how well the celeb dances the steps given. Then it wouldn't mater if the judges 'liked' it or not...

Traffic1326

12-12-2010

Originally Posted by soulmate61:
“Should the judges give a choreography score separately?

yes.”

YES . sure . Why won`t they.????? Too difficult??

Mystical123

12-12-2010

I don't think there should be a separate mark, but I think choreography should only be marked down if it breaks the rules, e.g. because of an illegal lift. The judges should be looking at performance and technique, not deducting points because the choreography isn't to their personal taste. They're not speaking for the public, and the fact that certain contestants who've had choreography given to them that some judges disliked are still in the competition shows that the public who vote for them enjoy choreography which the judges may not.

So have the judges there to enforce the choreography rules and judge technique and performance, but it's not their job to tell the pro dancers how they can and can't interpret a dance within the rules of the show.

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