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Old 11-12-2010, 02:15
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Hmm, slightly suspicious here, unless someone can point me in the right direction? Wasn't the final judging show

I done a little bit of research into the new website domains and I notice that not only are most (if not all... I haven't finished yet) of the contestants had web sites registered on their behalf as but they were done as early as August 3rd, some were much later, though (such as Wagner's)

Check out the Whois links I post as well (a site for information on domain name registration)

The main four:
Matt: www.mattcardlemusic.com www.whois.net/whois/mattcardlemusic.com

One Direction: hwww.onedirectionmusic.com - www.whois.net/whois/onedirectionmusic.com

Cher: www.cherlloyd.com - www.whois.net/whois/cherlloyd.com

www.rebeccaofficial.com - www.whois.net/whois/rebeccaofficial.com

However, there are also others which have been registered:

Wagner: www.wagnerofficial.com - www.whois.net/whois/wagnerofficial.com

Aiden: www.aidengrimshaw.com - www.whois.net/whois/aidengrimshaw.com

Mary: www.marybyrnemusic.com - www.whois.net/whois/marybyrnemusic.com

Katie: www.katiewaisselmusic.com - www.whois.net/whois/katiewaisselmusic.com

Diva Fever: www.divafevermusic.com - www.whois.net/whois/divafevermusic.com

Storm Lee: www.stormleemusic.com - http://www.whois.net/whois/stormleemusic.com

FYD: www.fydmusic.com - www.whois.net/whois/fydmusic.com

Paije: www.paijerichardson.com - www.whois.net/whois/paijerichardson.com

TrayC: www.treyccohen.com - www.whois.net/whois/treyccohen.com

John: www.johnadeleye.com - http://www.whois.net/whois/johnadeleye.com

Nicolo: www.nicolofesta.com - www.whois.net/whois/nicolofesta.com

One I find very surprising is Gamu and Justin Vanderhyde.

www.gamumusic.com - www.whois.net/whois/gamumusic.com

www.justinvanderhyde.com - www.whois.net/whois/justinvanderhyde.com


I can't fine Belle Amie, probably because their name is quite common online.

I can't seem to find sites for people like Twem, Annastacia Baker, Kerri Arrindell, Yuli Miguel... but I got bored and stopped there.

(I tried with suffixes such as "music", "official" and tried some first names, such as yulimusic for example)

What was the timescale of the judges houses? In real terms, were the final acts decided before the 3rd August or after? The show stated on the 21st August so that leaves almost 3 weeks after most of these were registered.

Perhaps Gamu and Justin were considered to be going through at an earlier stage, which is why Wagner's site was registered a lot later (he "replaced" him)?

Is there any conspiracy anyone can see here? I'm not saying there is or isn't, I am just curious
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Old 11-12-2010, 02:18
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It's quite clever and quick of them to do it that early, though because:

- It prevents "domain parking" from people who register such domains so, in this case, the X-Factor wouldn't get it, and then bribe them into paying up for it.

- It allows the show to "domain park" so it has more control over it's acts, because unless they give the domains up, for example, the acts will need a different address, so instead of "gamumusic.com" she'll have to change it, such as including her surname which means it's a more difficult web address.
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Old 11-12-2010, 02:21
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Don't hold me to this but I *think* Dannii, Simon and Louis picked their final 3 before the show started to air and Cheryl picked her's while the audtions were airing. That's what I seem to remember being said on here.
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Old 11-12-2010, 02:24
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What is your point?
Most of the tools on the show would have registered their own name'd sites at the first sniff of maybe getting thru - they arent stupid
I hope you enjoyed the belle ami searches. very sexy
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Old 11-12-2010, 02:25
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Don't hold me to this but I *think* Dannii, Simon and Louis picked their final 3 before the show started to air and Cheryl picked her's while the audtions were airing. That's what I seem to remember being said on here.
I wonder what dates these were? When were the judges actually at their houses?

What is your point?
Most of the tools on the show would have registered their own name'd sites at the first sniff of maybe getting thru - they arent stupid
I hope you enjoyed the belle ami searches. very sexy
I didn't say there was a point, I was asking a question... if you actually read the thread?
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Old 11-12-2010, 02:29
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There is absolutely something to be said for everyone parking their ownname.com at some point in their life. Particularly if you're aiming for a life in the public eye using your name to sell things. If none of the contestants had done this themselves then they're fairly silly.

On the other hand, there are countless other variations you can have as your domain name.
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Old 11-12-2010, 02:30
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There is absolutely something to be said for everyone parking their ownname.com at some point in their life. Particularly if you're aiming for a life in the public eye using your name to sell things. If none of the contestants had done this themselves then they're fairly silly.

On the other hand, there are countless other variations you can have as your domain name.
The problem is if you have a name like "aidengrimshaw.com" then "aidengrimshawmusic.com" just adds more to the URL and shorter URLs are much easier to manage and use.

Saying that, they could all just use.co.uk ...or just use Facebook and Twitter
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Old 11-12-2010, 02:37
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I wonder what dates these were? When were the judges actually at their houses?



I didn't say there was a point, I was asking a question... if you actually read the thread?
Oh OK. well, nah, theres nothing untoward, its usual procedure for domain names to be snapped up by the shows admin staff for £1.99 when they know the names of the contestants just in case they get thru

Perfectly normal management of a show procedure
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Old 11-12-2010, 02:42
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Oh OK. well, nah, theres nothing untoward, its usual procedure for domain names to be snapped up by the shows admin staff for £1.99 when they know the names of the contestants just in case they get thru

Perfectly normal management of a show procedure
I didn't mean to sound argumentative if I came across like that (I just read my reply back to myself )

(By the way, I am fully aware of BelAmi and Lukas Ridgeston )

It makes sense to why they done it because it means other people can't get it, but it also means that they own those domains now and it's just further control over the acts who never made it (e.g.. Syco has apparently stopped Gamu from promoting her Christmas single which is a clear attempt to stop her being successful - I'm not a fan of Gamu, bit this is the kind of stuff that the show brings around).

One thing I was thinking is that the acts were decided before the judges houses - if the judges houses, in real timescales - were after 3rd August.

I also have a but of a conspiracy from all this that Gamu was actually meant to be put through but because of the issues she was having she was dropped, rather than not being put through like the others.

Also, that Justin was meant to go through considering the domain was registered on the 3rd August like everyone else, but they changed it to Wagner at the last minute, since his domain wasn't registered until 7th October.
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Old 11-12-2010, 02:51
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No probz. I work at ITV, as soon as names of reality contestants are gathered, the domain addressess are just snapped up for pennies. Every now and then they already have a website but the management are able to take control of any output or intelllectual property. Nine times out of ten the website is just registered, not actually used
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Old 11-12-2010, 02:53
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Hmm, slightly suspicious here, unless someone can point me in the right direction? Wasn't the final judging show

I done a little bit of research into the new website domains and I notice that not only are most (if not all... I haven't finished yet) of the contestants had web sites registered on their behalf as but they were done as early as August 3rd, some were much later, though (such as Wagner's)

Check out the Whois links I post as well (a site for information on domain name registration)

The main four:
Matt: www.mattcardlemusic.com www.whois.net/whois/mattcardlemusic.com

One Direction: hwww.onedirectionmusic.com - www.whois.net/whois/onedirectionmusic.com

Cher: www.cherlloyd.com - www.whois.net/whois/cherlloyd.com

www.rebeccaofficial.com - www.whois.net/whois/rebeccaofficial.com

However, there are also others which have been registered:

Wagner: www.wagnerofficial.com - www.whois.net/whois/wagnerofficial.com

Aiden: www.aidengrimshaw.com - www.whois.net/whois/aidengrimshaw.com

Mary: www.marybyrnemusic.com - www.whois.net/whois/marybyrnemusic.com

Katie: www.katiewaisselmusic.com - www.whois.net/whois/katiewaisselmusic.com

Diva Fever: www.divafevermusic.com - www.whois.net/whois/divafevermusic.com

Storm Lee: www.stormleemusic.com - http://www.whois.net/whois/stormleemusic.com

FYD: www.fydmusic.com - www.whois.net/whois/fydmusic.com

Paije: www.paijerichardson.com - www.whois.net/whois/paijerichardson.com

TrayC: www.treyccohen.com - www.whois.net/whois/treyccohen.com

John: www.johnadeleye.com - http://www.whois.net/whois/johnadeleye.com

Nicolo: www.nicolofesta.com - www.whois.net/whois/nicolofesta.com

One I find very surprising is Gamu and Justin Vanderhyde.

www.gamumusic.com - www.whois.net/whois/gamumusic.com

www.justinvanderhyde.com - www.whois.net/whois/justinvanderhyde.com


I can't fine Belle Amie, probably because their name is quite common online.

I can't seem to find sites for people like Twem, Annastacia Baker, Kerri Arrindell, Yuli Miguel... but I got bored and stopped there.

(I tried with suffixes such as "music", "official" and tried some first names, such as yulimusic for example)

What was the timescale of the judges houses? In real terms, were the final acts decided before the 3rd August or after? The show stated on the 21st August so that leaves almost 3 weeks after most of these were registered.

Perhaps Gamu and Justin were considered to be going through at an earlier stage, which is why Wagner's site was registered a lot later (he "replaced" him)?

Is there any conspiracy anyone can see here? I'm not saying there is or isn't, I am just curious

Great piece of research but not neccesary any dodgy conclusions to be drawn from it. Within business it is standard procedure to register rights to doman asap if you have an interest so as to ring fence the name for your use or prevent others using it. I'd suggest that they have done that for all the acts they were considering. They may not have wanted to use the domains themselves but they will have wanted to prevent the domains being used by acts who didn't make it through but wanted to promote themselves off the back of the show. The comany I work for registered domain rights to loads of names their competitors might want to use right at the start of the birth of the internet several years ago. A shrewd move that has proved a pain in the arse to our competitors. I'd expect nothing less from Mr Cowell himself.
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Old 11-12-2010, 02:59
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I think my main questions revolve around the dates, though.

Such as were the judges houses filmed after 3rd August when most of these domains were registered, and why is there a domain for Justin on the same date, but he never got through and Wagner did but his was registered over a month later?

To me it seems that they had a plan of contestants already, but made a couple of changes for entertainment purposes; e.g. putting Wagner through because he's token value and will get more attention.

I fully understand their reasons for doing that, though, because it's a TV show after all.
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Old 11-12-2010, 03:05
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wagner was a wild card .... did it take amonth to go thru that process?
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Old 11-12-2010, 03:17
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wagner was a wild card .... did it take amonth to go thru that process?
Oh, of course, yes... however, saying that Paije, TrayC and Diva Fever were also wild cards but their domains were registered on the same day as most (3rd August). That probably suggests the wild cards were picked along with the main 3.

Interestingly, Rebecca's was registered the day after most people's was, so perhaps Gamu was meant to go through instead of her, but was changed at the last minute? That... or they worked overnight and the clock ticked past midnight

Just some thoughts which may not hold much ground from a simply domain name registration, but it's good to suggest sometimes
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Old 11-12-2010, 03:34
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Saying that, they could all just use.co.uk ...or just use Facebook and Twitter
To be honest, I think Facebook and twitter reach more people.
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Old 11-12-2010, 03:35
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To be honest, I think Facebook and twitter reach more people.
They definitely do. On another forum, I was talking about Facebook and Twitter's (and in the past MySpace's) influence on official web sites, and some acts don't even have them any more because of it. The acts which do often have a site which is rarely updated (there are exceptions, of course).
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Old 11-12-2010, 03:39
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its just the process
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Old 11-12-2010, 03:47
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Interestingly, Rebecca's was registered the day after most people's was, so perhaps Gamu was meant to go through instead of her, but was changed at the last minute? That... or they worked overnight and the clock ticked past midnight
i wouldn't read much in to that. netnames.com is a service provider that will, amongst other things, reg domains for you. there isn't someone sitting there typing it all in one by one, it's a script that works off a batch of things. them being UK based and most domain name registration related offices being California based allows for big enough a time difference that it's well possible for California still being around midnight, while London offices already opened and fired up their tools, resulting in different registration days. also not all registrations go through without a hiccup.
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