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SPOILER THREAD - Saturday 11th December - Semi Final
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Dorabella14
12-12-2010
Originally Posted by JulieD:
“Great result. Now I can watch the final without wanting to kick the tv when Scotts gurning face pops up. Don't really mind who wins but I am leaning slightly towards Matt mainly because the judges were so horrible to him.”

Please carry on leaning towards Matt if you're a voter.
Was awful to see him only one place up from bottom of leaderboard before the voting started.

Gavin had a good run.
Sorry for Scott - but the BBC should have given him more time off to train

Delighted that Kara and Matt are through
As for the third couple, I'm basically delighted for James, couldn't care less about his partner
thenetworkbabe
12-12-2010
Originally Posted by Tangerine_82:
“I totally agree that Pamela did very well tonight. She just didn't do exceptionally well which is what it should take to get 40. That's what it seems to take for Kara. It's a shame Pamela isn't judged by the same criteria - she gets away with a lot because she's older. She was heavy on her feet throughout the entire QS section of that routine and in QS that is a grave offence but it didn't seem to matter to the judges. Funny that ”

Possibly because no one her age could be expected to be as good as Kara and pointing that out would make them seem ridiculous.

Its their marking system thats at fault becaue they are only now using 9-10 for dances that work well. They can't comment on what Pamela can't do because its impossible for her to do more at 61 and Kara's difficulty creates errors that get her the odd deduction.

As we saw, though, yet again with Matt, they can't use the lower marks without there being a backlash of people complaining that a poor performance got poor marks and voting in sympathy because someone was told they were not good. That means either Pamela gets a 9 and is told to do the impossible or Kara gets 10 even with an error - or as it happened Pamela gets 10 for doing everything possible and Kara gets docked one point overall for an error.

It still doesn't matter at all whether Pamela gets 10s for a dance if she is ends up in the correct place on the leaderboard. After Matt's lamentable first performance, there was no doubt that Pamela belonged above him and below Kara - which is precisely where she ended up. There is no problem - just a repeated marking issue
Strictly_Irish
12-12-2010
Yes!!!!! Matty to win!
bobferret
12-12-2010
Kara - technically excellent but wooden and safe in interpretation.
Pamela - capable of being the best but will she deliver on the night?
Matt - technically flawed at times but great interpretation.

What a pity I'll be back abroad again next week for the final and will only see the result on the web. Pamela to win if she dances well enough and her detractors on here do not hog the votes. Vote for, never against.
shrew
12-12-2010
Originally Posted by leespartner2:
“Per Wiki

Pamela Helen Stephenson Connolly (born 4 December 1949) is a New Zealand born Australian we're both right!!”

... ahhhh I bow before your superior wiki skills
BelgoLift
12-12-2010
Originally Posted by bobferret:
“Kara - technically excellent but wooden and safe in interpretation.
Pamela - capable of being the best but will she deliver on the night?
Matt - technically flawed at times but great interpretation.
.”

Happens several years now where you have a technically excellent dancer (Rachel / Ricky / Kara), a dancer who may not be as technically perfect, but joy flows out while dancing (Tom / Chris / Pamela), and one that could have developed into something even better if they had been consistent ( Matt DiA / Matt).

Given the historical outcomes, interesting to see how it will play next weekend.
treetree
12-12-2010
Originally Posted by PinkyPig:
“I am thrilled that smug Natalie is out. Sad for Scott. Thrilled that the arrogant interloper who has only been allocated exceptionally good celebs, who punches the air at the end of a dance he fluffed up, who expressed her disgust at not getting 4 x 10 for the dance, who makes every dance about her her her is out.”


same here i can't take to Natalie either your right shes been given good celebs - lets see her work with a lemon
Midsomer Madnes
12-12-2010
poor Gav....ah well never mind..the boy did good in my eyes! Would have preferred Scott in the final to Pamela...just can't take to her...and really dislike James Jordan after his treatment of previous partners, hope they go out first next week...I'm not here to vote but hope its a win for Kara!
Pentax20
12-12-2010
Originally Posted by bobferret:
“Kara - technically excellent but wooden and safe in interpretation.
Pamela - capable of being the best but will she deliver on the night?
Matt - technically flawed at times but great interpretation.
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Apart from Scott/Nat's jive, Kara is the only one this series that I've gone back and watched again - not just technically good but I love the way here dances match the music

Pam/James - Solid second, good but not as good as the judges think!

Matt/Aliona - switches between dire and excellent, with little middle ground.

I'll go into the final with an open mind - who dances best wins in my book!
towers
12-12-2010
Originally Posted by Pentax20:
“Apart from Scott/Nat's jive, Kara is the only one this series that I've gone back and watched again - not just technically good but I love the way here dances match the music

Pam/James - Solid second, good but not as good as the judges think!

Matt/Aliona - switches between dire and excellent, with little middle ground.

I'll go into the final with an open mind - who dances best wins in my book!”

I agree.

I think Scott looked more comfortable on the dance floor than Matt - possibly helped by the fact that he's an actor, as is Kara - but when Matt dances well, he just has the edge over Scott.

I think the right 3 have made it through to the final, although I will miss Scott for sure.
trevvytrev21
12-12-2010
Originally Posted by Phil Ander:
“You are all entitled to not like Pamela. I do however feel many of you are allowing your antipathy towards her affecting your judgement on the quickstep she did tonight.

I am no particular fan of hers. I think over the series Kara has been the most consistent performer but Pam did very well tonight and I think dear posters in your heart of hearts you know it.

Toodle Pip”

How patronising.

Pamela was out of sync with James in the opening, heavy in the QS section and somehow scored straight 10s.

I laughed!
shevlen
12-12-2010
Originally Posted by towers:
“I agree.

I think Scott looked more comfortable on the dance floor than Matt - possibly helped by the fact that he's an actor, as is Kara - but when Matt dances well, he just has the edge over Scott.

I think the right 3 have made it through to the final, although I will miss Scott for sure.”

Matt is also a trained actor from Edinburgh Queen Margaret University (Drama).
Gavin had a much longer run than he deserved, so I am glad to see him go.
So sorry Scott has gone, I always enjoyed his dancing except when he couldn't be released from Eastenders gruelling schedule and was totally exhausted. BBC shouldn't have allowed that to happen.
Pamela? Well I fear the judges are bowled over by a 61 year old who can dance really well. Not fantastically well though, not breathtakingly well,certainly not well enough to rate all those 10s for absolute perfection which she never in all honesty achieved.
glasshalffull
12-12-2010
Thanks again to the spoiler folks

Gavin bites the dust...at last
for Scott but a couple of his early dances ie jive and Viennese waltz willl remain the stand out memories for me of this season.
lach doch mal
12-12-2010
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Possibly because no one her age could be expected to be as good as Kara and pointing that out would make them seem ridiculous.

Its their marking system thats at fault becaue they are only now using 9-10 for dances that work well. They can't comment on what Pamela can't do because its impossible for her to do more at 61 and Kara's difficulty creates errors that get her the odd deduction.

As we saw, though, yet again with Matt, they can't use the lower marks without there being a backlash of people complaining that a poor performance got poor marks and voting in sympathy because someone was told they were not good. That means either Pamela gets a 9 and is told to do the impossible or Kara gets 10 even with an error - or as it happened Pamela gets 10 for doing everything possible and Kara gets docked one point overall for an error.

It still doesn't matter at all whether Pamela gets 10s for a dance if she is ends up in the correct place on the leaderboard. After Matt's lamentable first performance, there was no doubt that Pamela belonged above him and below Kara - which is precisely where she ended up. There is no problem - just a repeated marking issue”

Agree with everything you say.
MissMac
12-12-2010
Originally Posted by hansue:
“As this is the last spoiler thread for 2010 I would like to thank Footygirl, Alisonrose, Olivej and anyone who has posted the correct thread (not the time wasters), for keeping us informed over the weeks. I don't know what we have done without you.”

Me too. Really appreciate it
diyqueen
12-12-2010
Originally Posted by bobferret:
“Kara - technically excellent but wooden and safe in interpretation.
Pamela - capable of being the best but will she deliver on the night?
Matt - technically flawed at times but great interpretation.

What a pity I'll be back abroad again next week for the final and will only see the result on the web. Pamela to win if she dances well enough and her detractors on here do not hog the votes. Vote for, never against.”

Kara wooded !!!!!

Pam dances are safe and boring she is no way the best or capable of being the best she is flat footed as hell
Camino
12-12-2010
its the final 3 i wanted so im really pleased with that! Scott had just lost if for me and i would love to see Kara or Matt win though i wouldnt mind Pamela but she is third for me, thanks for the spoilers!
diyqueen
12-12-2010
Originally Posted by MissMac:
“Me too. Really appreciate it ”

Me to Thanks loads
diyqueen
12-12-2010
Originally Posted by trevvytrev21:
“How patronising.

Pamela was out of sync with James in the opening, heavy in the QS section and somehow scored straight 10s.

I laughed! ”

I laughed to what a joke
wildwestlady
12-12-2010
Omigod! Another week of Dr P, the Gurning Granny - I can hardly bear it! Hopefully the GBP won't be as prejudiced and silly as the judges and will vote her out after round one.

There are limits when it comes to making allowances for the elderly - and I can say this because I'm even older than the GG. We tend to be fatter, slower, stiffer, uglier and in some cases dafter. We are sometimes, though not always, wiser. The young will always do better than us at physical tasks and at many mental tasks (e.g. learning a language).

So don't pretend that someone with a bus pass can dance as well as a fit twenty-something - it just ain't so, Sure, if she's a good actress who has had dance training, with bags of confidence and a skilled and canny partner, she can give a passable impression of dancing well and can fool many/some of the people much/some of the time. But watch that same OAP dance without a partner, focus on her bottom half, not her face, and I think the truth will be revealed.
rainbow321
12-12-2010
Originally Posted by bobferret:
“Kara - technically excellent but [B]wooden and safe i[/B]n interpretation.
Pamela - capable of being the best but will she deliver on the night?
Matt - technically flawed at times but great interpretation.

What a pity I'll be back abroad again next week for the final and will only see the result on the web. Pamela to win if she dances well enough and her detractors on here do not hog the votes. Vote for, never against.”


I completely disagree with that word when talking about Kara.
beaky29
12-12-2010
Would like to add my thanks to the spoiler gainers - it is such a stupid BBC idea to leave it until the Sunday to give the result.
Thanks girls!
kassieq
12-12-2010
Like to add my thanks to the spoiler posters, I'm not good at waiting .

Pamela's slowstep was very leaden, she is quite often flat footed and her head and neck disappear into her shoulders quiet often. She is over praised because of her age, I go out dancing with friends 62 and older and we can salsa the night away, so no not impressed.
giraffe77
12-12-2010
I think Pamela is fantastic, and a great role-model for women of that age. My mum is a similar age, and has lost 5 stone in the last year, and has found a whole new lease of life.

However, those dances were not worth 4 10s .... the judges should be ashamed of themselves .... utterly ludicrous!!
tonydancer
12-12-2010
Scott was well overmarked on both his dances. I carefully tried to focus on him alone on Friday and Saturday and blank out Natalie the Whirling Dervish. In the Paso, apart from the fairly well executed lifts (very well executed considering Natalie's muscle mass), all he did was pose - walk - pose. From the hips down there was no attack at all. Then he did about the least committed Charleston I can remember from a so-called good dancer. Swivel, what swivel, Bruno?
Definitely the right result although I will miss Katya. Pammy is now the Chris Hollins of this year but is up against tougher opposition. Matt is one of the three best movers from all the SCD male celebs, and someone who loads of viewers have grown up liking from Blue Peter onward, while Kara is a girl who is so beautiful, graceful and brave that she even outshines her partner's teeth.
Only Aliona and her choreography now stands between Matt and the glitterball, but that is a significant factor. With Katya, he'd have been a shoo-in.
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