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SPOILER THREAD - Saturday 11th December - Semi Final
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Originally Posted by wildwestlady:
“Omigod! Another week of Dr P, the Gurning Granny - I can hardly bear it! Hopefully the GBP won't be as prejudiced and silly as the judges and will vote her out after round one.
There are limits when it comes to making allowances for the elderly - and I can say this because I'm even older than the GG. We tend to be fatter, slower, stiffer, uglier and in some cases dafter. We are sometimes, though not always, wiser. The young will always do better than us at physical tasks and at many mental tasks (e.g. learning a language).
So don't pretend that someone with a bus pass can dance as well as a fit twenty-something - it just ain't so, Sure, if she's a good actress who has had dance training, with bags of confidence and a skilled and canny partner, she can give a passable impression of dancing well and can fool many/some of the people much/some of the time. But watch that same OAP dance without a partner, focus on her bottom half, not her face, and I think the truth will be revealed.”
“Omigod! Another week of Dr P, the Gurning Granny - I can hardly bear it! Hopefully the GBP won't be as prejudiced and silly as the judges and will vote her out after round one.
There are limits when it comes to making allowances for the elderly - and I can say this because I'm even older than the GG. We tend to be fatter, slower, stiffer, uglier and in some cases dafter. We are sometimes, though not always, wiser. The young will always do better than us at physical tasks and at many mental tasks (e.g. learning a language).
So don't pretend that someone with a bus pass can dance as well as a fit twenty-something - it just ain't so, Sure, if she's a good actress who has had dance training, with bags of confidence and a skilled and canny partner, she can give a passable impression of dancing well and can fool many/some of the people much/some of the time. But watch that same OAP dance without a partner, focus on her bottom half, not her face, and I think the truth will be revealed.”
well she was better than scott and gavin so she deserves a place in the final. she probably wont win in and will more than likely come third but she deserves to be there.
[quote=tonydancer;46486229]Scott was well overmarked on both his dances. I carefully tried to focus on him alone on Friday and Saturday and blank out Natalie the Whirling Dervish. In the Paso, apart from the fairly well executed lifts (very well executed considering Natalie's muscle mass), all he did was pose - walk - pose.
Totally agree with you
Totally agree with you
Originally Posted by scd-fan:
“well she was better than scott and gavin so she deserves a place in the final. she probably wont win in and will more than likely come third but she deserves to be there.”
“well she was better than scott and gavin so she deserves a place in the final. she probably wont win in and will more than likely come third but she deserves to be there.”
I thought she was very good and consistant too
Originally Posted by scd-fan:
“well she was better than scott and gavin so she deserves a place in the final. she probably wont win in and will more than likely come third but she deserves to be there.”
“well she was better than scott and gavin so she deserves a place in the final. she probably wont win in and will more than likely come third but she deserves to be there.”
I didn't think she WAS better than Scott, and I wasn't convinced that her quickstep was mutch better than Gavin's VW. I also found her paso much more uncomfortable/awkward to watch than Gavin's dire samba.
I would have liked Scott as well as Matt and Kara to be in the final, because I had thought and still do think that they are the best dancers.
However, in the last couple of weeks for me it had been quite noticeable that Natalie had been showing off her dancing and herself rather than giving Scott more actual dancing steps to do to show that he is a good dancer.
Final result for me hopefully:
1 Matt or Kara
2 Kara or Matt
3 Pam
However, in the last couple of weeks for me it had been quite noticeable that Natalie had been showing off her dancing and herself rather than giving Scott more actual dancing steps to do to show that he is a good dancer.
Final result for me hopefully:
1 Matt or Kara
2 Kara or Matt
3 Pam
Thank you for your responses to my earlier post.
I still think all this talk about fix is more to do with personal dislike of Pam among many of you rather than anything else.
My own view is that the best three over the series are in the final. Personally I hope that whoever does the best on the night wins.
I still think all this talk about fix is more to do with personal dislike of Pam among many of you rather than anything else.
My own view is that the best three over the series are in the final. Personally I hope that whoever does the best on the night wins.
Originally Posted by Phil Ander:
“Thank you for your responses to my earlier post.
I still think all this talk about fix is more to do with personal dislike of Pam among many of you rather than anything else.My own view is that the best three over the series are in the final. Personally I hope that whoever does the best on the night wins.”
“Thank you for your responses to my earlier post.
I still think all this talk about fix is more to do with personal dislike of Pam among many of you rather than anything else.My own view is that the best three over the series are in the final. Personally I hope that whoever does the best on the night wins.”
Do you? Oddly enough many of the dancers on here see her inadequacies .And many who are not dancers see a heavy footed and leaden dancer ,
Perhaps your view is coloured and not ours ,could that be perhaps ?
thank you to those who posted spoiler! I am happy as my 3 favourite are in the final, each so different but i love watching them. This year is going to be hard to chose my favourite to win and i have voted for all three over the weeks but to be truthful i would not mind who it was! I love James' choreography for Pam with some really simple and elegant routines, Kara and Artum's chemistry and professionalism in their execution, and Matt and aliona's for the fun and sheer enjoyment of them. Bring on the Final next week! I am so looking forward to it!
Originally Posted by giraffe77;46485905[B:
“]I think Pamela is fantastic, and a great role-model for women of that age[/b]. My mum is a similar age, and has lost 5 stone in the last year, and has found a whole new lease of life.
However, those dances were not worth 4 10s .... the judges should be ashamed of themselves .... utterly ludicrous!!”
“]I think Pamela is fantastic, and a great role-model for women of that age[/b]. My mum is a similar age, and has lost 5 stone in the last year, and has found a whole new lease of life.
However, those dances were not worth 4 10s .... the judges should be ashamed of themselves .... utterly ludicrous!!”
I agree entirely. Unless in future the judges intend to weight their marks according to age, there seems little justification in giving 4x10's for Pam's routines.
That's not sour grapes, I have enjoyed Pam's dancing, and admired her immensely in the opening weeks. But has Pamela come up with anything "memorable" ?..with two perfect scores, you would imagine that at least one routine would now be engraved in the memory. So far, I have abiding memories of about four routines this year, one each by Matt and Scott, and two by Kara. All I can remember of Pamela (so far) is of her being consistently "very good for her age".
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“I didn't think she WAS better than Scott, and I wasn't convinced that her quickstep was mutch better than Gavin's VW. I also found her paso much more uncomfortable/awkward to watch than Gavin's dire samba.”
“I didn't think she WAS better than Scott, and I wasn't convinced that her quickstep was mutch better than Gavin's VW. I also found her paso much more uncomfortable/awkward to watch than Gavin's dire samba.”
I agree, I think Gavin, Scott and Pamela should have all gotten 8's, there wasn't much difference in quality between the three of them in my opinion.
Originally Posted by Abbasolutely 40:
“Do you? Oddly enough many of the dancers on here see her inadequacies .And many who are not dancers see a heavy footed and leaden dancer ,
Perhaps your view is coloured and not ours ,could that be perhaps ?”
“Do you? Oddly enough many of the dancers on here see her inadequacies .And many who are not dancers see a heavy footed and leaden dancer ,
Perhaps your view is coloured and not ours ,could that be perhaps ?”
And some who are dancers think she does beautiful (but not perfect) ballroom and enjoy her commitment and enthusiasm in the Latin. It's only natural that some of the conspiracy theorists will dislike her!
Originally Posted by wildwestlady:
“Omigod! Another week of Dr P, the Gurning Granny - I can hardly bear it! Hopefully the GBP won't be as prejudiced and silly as the judges and will vote her out after round one..”
“Omigod! Another week of Dr P, the Gurning Granny - I can hardly bear it! Hopefully the GBP won't be as prejudiced and silly as the judges and will vote her out after round one..”
So is everyone who likes her prejudiced and silly then?
Having noted the result last night I too have been chatting to friends and relatives this morning. After much deliberation those who wanted to know the result were polled and the outcome is:-
Mum. Gavin and Scott but wanted Pam to go.
OH. Gavin and Scott
Sis. Scott and Pam but wasn't unhappy that Gavin went
BF. Pam and Scott and was unhappy that Gavin went.
Mum. Kara to win Matt second
OH. Kara to win Matt second
Sis. Matt to win Kara second
BF. Matt or Kara to win, loves them both.
So in my mini poll of 40-85 year olds No one wants Pam to win and all enjoy Kara and Matt.
So who is voting for the Granny with the gyrating crotch?
Last edited by Cassie : 12-12-2010 at 12:42
Mum. Gavin and Scott but wanted Pam to go.
OH. Gavin and Scott
Sis. Scott and Pam but wasn't unhappy that Gavin went
BF. Pam and Scott and was unhappy that Gavin went.
Mum. Kara to win Matt second
OH. Kara to win Matt second
Sis. Matt to win Kara second
BF. Matt or Kara to win, loves them both.
So in my mini poll of 40-85 year olds No one wants Pam to win and all enjoy Kara and Matt.
So who is voting for the Granny with the gyrating crotch?
Last edited by Cassie : 12-12-2010 at 12:42
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“Who is Tara?
”
“Who is Tara?
”
Kara's twin sister, they take it in turns, ballroom/latin...that's why she appears so good.
Originally Posted by RichmondBlue:
“Kara's twin sister, they take it in turns, ballroom/latin...that's why she appears so good.”
“Kara's twin sister, they take it in turns, ballroom/latin...that's why she appears so good.”
Ok, ok. I've changed it.
So is everyone who likes her prejudiced and silly then? :rolleyes
Did I say that? No I did not! Many people feel the judges have been guilty of flagrant favouritism where Pamela is concerned, doling out perfect scores for routines which were far from perfect. I call this silly, for several reasons. In the end it will do her no favours. And they are destroying their own credibility and that of the show itself.
I trust that anyone who supports Pamela will pay close attention to her dancing technique in the final before casting their vote.
Did I say that? No I did not! Many people feel the judges have been guilty of flagrant favouritism where Pamela is concerned, doling out perfect scores for routines which were far from perfect. I call this silly, for several reasons. In the end it will do her no favours. And they are destroying their own credibility and that of the show itself.
I trust that anyone who supports Pamela will pay close attention to her dancing technique in the final before casting their vote.
Originally Posted by Mystical123:
“So is everyone who likes her prejudiced and silly then?”
“So is everyone who likes her prejudiced and silly then?
”
Lol, erm - it was quite obvious the poster didn't mean that - at all.
The judges are indeed prejudiced and silly if they think Pammie's QS deserved 40/40.
Originally Posted by Abbasolutely 40:
“I will repeat myself as my post is gone somewhere .Pamela is not flying it for me either ,as a mature lady I find her very hard to watch actually and would vote for anyone but her .”
“I will repeat myself as my post is gone somewhere .Pamela is not flying it for me either ,as a mature lady I find her very hard to watch actually and would vote for anyone but her .”
Not for me, either, though I do think she is a good dancer. But she's been ridiculously overmarked and I find her persona very false - all the sexual innuendo. I can't be doing with it!
Matt is my fave but I think Kara is fab and I'd be happy with a win for either of them.
Originally Posted by MelissaStar:
“Pamela in the final!? YESSSSS!
I think I'm alone on here with the celebrations though. :P”
“Pamela in the final!? YESSSSS!
I think I'm alone on here with the celebrations though. :P”
No you're not alone. I think she more than deserves her place. She has been consistently good throughout the series, unlike Scott who had a couple of weak weeks(!) & Gavin, who although he improved, wasn't in the same league.
I'm glad Pamela is through to the final and I think she deserves her place in it. I'm also looking forward to her showdance (as an exhibition dance rather than a competition dance) as I think it'll be fun - assuming it's more like Tom & Camilla's than Lisa & Brendan's!
However, I don't want Pamela to win. For me, it's Kara then Matt then Pamela. I think Artem will choreograph something fabulous for Kara's showdance but I think that Aliona will choreograph more of the same gimmicks she's used throughout the series for Matt and she's done that so often already that, as far as I'm concerned, they've completely lost their WOW! factor.
I loved Kara & Artem's AS but I agree with Karen Hardy that it was more of a showdance. I hope Artem choreographs something along those lines for the showdance because it was beautiful.
However, I don't want Pamela to win. For me, it's Kara then Matt then Pamela. I think Artem will choreograph something fabulous for Kara's showdance but I think that Aliona will choreograph more of the same gimmicks she's used throughout the series for Matt and she's done that so often already that, as far as I'm concerned, they've completely lost their WOW! factor.
I loved Kara & Artem's AS but I agree with Karen Hardy that it was more of a showdance. I hope Artem choreographs something along those lines for the showdance because it was beautiful.
Originally Posted by woodencreatures:
“Great result, thanks very much for the spoilers”
“Great result, thanks very much for the spoilers”
May I also add my thanks to you all, its much appreciated
Thanks for the spoiler. I'm happy with the result. I'd like Pamela to win but I think it's unlikely and I can see I'm in the minority.
Was there a bottom 3 or did they just call out the 3 who where safe in no particular order? Sorry if it's been answered but there's far too many pages to scroll back through.
I'm happy with the result. I'd like Pamela to win but I think it's unlikely and I can see I'm in the minority. Was there a bottom 3 or did they just call out the 3 who where safe in no particular order? Sorry if it's been answered but there's far too many pages to scroll back through.
Originally Posted by sunnypickles:
“thank you to those who posted spoiler! I am happy as my 3 favourite are in the final, each so different but i love watching them. This year is going to be hard to chose my favourite to win and i have voted for all three over the weeks but to be truthful i would not mind who it was! I love James' choreography for Pam with some really simple and elegant routines, Kara and Artem's chemistry and professionalism in their execution, and Matt and Aliona's for the fun and sheer enjoyment of them. Bring on the Final next week! I am so looking forward to it!”
“thank you to those who posted spoiler! I am happy as my 3 favourite are in the final, each so different but i love watching them. This year is going to be hard to chose my favourite to win and i have voted for all three over the weeks but to be truthful i would not mind who it was! I love James' choreography for Pam with some really simple and elegant routines, Kara and Artem's chemistry and professionalism in their execution, and Matt and Aliona's for the fun and sheer enjoyment of them. Bring on the Final next week! I am so looking forward to it!”
My thoughts exactly!!
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