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Even worse than Lisa Snowdon
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Midsomer Madnes
11-12-2010
Can't believe they gave her 40 again! Hope she goes tonight...why do they have to keep mentioning her flaming husband? They don't do it with anybody else..drives me nuts...I voted for Gavin lol sorry and also for Kara!
peeve
11-12-2010
I do try not to be negative about the dancers (and, yes, I know I fail), but I was as shocked as a very shocked thing when the judges started over-praising a very poor quickstep. Not only was it clunky and clumpy in places, but the hunched shoulders were back in evidence and there was gapping you could drive a truck through. So my jaw dropped lower and lower as each judge enthused, and I just KNEW it would be a 40.

That is, without doubt, the most undeserved 40 in Strictly history, because I liked Lisa's dance and Matt di Angelo's waltz was okay by comparison.

Incidentally, I thought the choreography was good but was sure Len would have a go about the prolonged faffing about with canes at the start - he would have done so for any other couple.

As you might have guessed, I am a bit peeved...
MelodyMaker
11-12-2010
Originally Posted by StrictlyRed:
“This makes X Factor look decent and above board. An outrageous score.”

Couldn't agree more, the bias by the judges is so transparent it's insulting to the viewer, I'm no professional but even I could see that wasn't worth a 10
Chrissi_1986
11-12-2010
I didn't think Pamela's Quickstep was worthy of 40.
SB!
11-12-2010
Originally Posted by -Sid-:
“Pam's was the most one-sided VT as well.

The judges had nothing negative to say about her whatsoever and claimed she's as good at Latin as she is Ballroom?!”

I noticed that too...they didn't seem to say anything negative about her but they mentioned several times that Kara has been making mistakes IIRC? Even though the only time they showed her making a mistake was for her cha cha cha? ..hmm..anyway..I might just be being a bit over protective there I really hope the judges bias is just all in my head
TylerTango
11-12-2010
I'm sick to death of them calling Pamela consistent when she is anything but.

Her Jive and Cha Cha Cha were abysmal, and she's had so many sub-standard routines. If Pamela was 30 years younger then nobody would give a toss - and that's the truth!
zedders
11-12-2010
Erin liked it(on twitter):
Erinboag Erin Boag
Great quickstep. Lots of dancing going on. Well done James
Dollystanford
11-12-2010
Originally Posted by zedders:
“Erin liked it(on twitter):
Erinboag Erin Boag
Great quickstep. Lots of dancing going on. Well done James”

erin is very gushy on twitter - apart from the lifts!
BlueMood
11-12-2010
Originally Posted by TylerTango:
“Even worse than Lisa Snowdon”

Nowhere near as bad as Lisa Snowdon. The most overrated contestant in SCD history.
peeve
11-12-2010
Originally Posted by zedders:
“Erin liked it(on twitter):
Erinboag Erin Boag
Great quickstep. Lots of dancing going on. Well done James”

Erm, will somebody please tell Erin that lots of dancing is what is supposed to be going on, but that it's preferable if it's good dancing. And yes, well done James for good choreography, but it was only a great quickstep on paper, not in its execution.
SheShe
11-12-2010
It surprises me that Craig would collude in that sort of thing.

I thought he had a lot more integrity.
chachachavvy
11-12-2010
I started off really liking Pamela and still think that she is on the whole a good dancer but, increasingly, I find it hard to enjoy her performances because they are so mannered and overacted. I think James realised that she did not have the stamina for a full-on Quickstep and so killed time at the beginning and then choreographed a Quickstep so slow that it even made Lisa and Brendan's look fast-paced. She didn't dance it badly but, as usual, her arms and body were very graceful while her legs and feet were a bit clumpy and ungainly. The judges have definitely engineered the scoring to try and get her into the final at the expense of either Matt or Scott (that draw in the leaderboard is so fishy).

On another note, in the judges' backstage talk Len said that when Scott was bad he was terrible. Why then has Len never scored Scott as if he was terrible? I have never felt that my favourite, Matt, has been scored particularly wrongly, just that the scores of everyone around him have been crazy.
zedders
11-12-2010
Originally Posted by Dollystanford:
“erin is very gushy on twitter - apart from the lifts!”

well.. she said Matts dance didn't have enough tango content for her, and that Gavin had timing issues so she will point out faults. (and she commented about Pamela's lack of dress!!!)
Abbasolutely 40
11-12-2010
Originally Posted by TylerTango:
“I'm sick to death of them calling Pamela consistent when she is anything but.

Her Jive and Cha Cha Cha were abysmal, and she's had so many sub-standard routines. If Pamela was 30 years younger then nobody would give a toss - and that's the truth!”

Yes, and it does her a disservice , either she is a good dancer or she isnt but I hate the ""For her age " sh!te they throw in .
Ignazio
11-12-2010
Well overmarked.

imo Kara and Matt were equal tonight and Gavin better than either Scott or Pamela.
cath99
11-12-2010
I wonder if James is a bit embarassed. He must know that wasn't a particularly great performance by Pamela. I wonder what he thinks when he compares her to some of his other partners that he's never had a 10 with. Not one.
lach doch mal
11-12-2010
This thread is so funny, everone exploding and coming up with wonderful conspiracy theories.

Kara is on top (quite deservedly so), neither Matt and Scott deserved to be any higher if you take all their dances into account, so what. If you want them so stay in, vote for them.

Gavin in on the bottom, quite deservedly so as well. Crap VW in my books, lots of timing issues (even if the other judges didn't see it, at one point he almost pulled Katya over). The rest is up to the public, so vote and dont' complain.
missfrankiecat
11-12-2010
Originally Posted by SheShe:
“It surprises me that Craig would collude in that sort of thing.

I thought he had a lot more integrity. ”

Why would you think that? This is the man who is going to partner Ann Widdecombe on the tour after all he has said!
trevvytrev21
11-12-2010
Originally Posted by LJJohnson:
“Least deserving 40 in SCD history? Me thinks so.”

Up there with Matt DA's timid Waltz and Lisa's wank Cha-Cha.

Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“Am currently watching Denise & Ian's Quickstep on a loop and swearing up a storm.”

Denise is vastly underrated. Her Samba was immense, too.
BMLisa
11-12-2010
What infuriated me most was Len actually having the gall to say he loved the tapping! Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't tapping as out of place in a proper ballroom quickstep as lifts?

Yet again Pamela has her own rules! I though it was executed cleanly, but was very clumpy and lacked the bounce and effortlessness that a good quickstep should show!
fancynancy
11-12-2010
Originally Posted by Abbasolutely 40:
“How much did Billy Connelly pay the judges ?? FFS what on earth was that 40 for ? A clumpy quickstep ?It was awful .”

He'll be doing Strictly next year if she reaches the final - simple as, overmarking mystery solved. Shrugs.
Janzt
11-12-2010
Originally Posted by -Sid-:
“I defended Pamela's 40 last week, but tonight's was indefensible.

A delightful routine, but visibly heavy footed in places. Worth a 9 at best.”

I said I didn't think last week's dance was worth 4 10s. I still stand by that.

This week - well!! It was heavy (which a quickstep shouldn't be), I think some of the synchronised bits were out of time and I couldn't believe it when Len said Pam's posture was good throughout. It wasn't. Her nose was nearly toching James' chest at one point!

I didn't have an opinion on Pamela at the beginning but I'm afraid the blatent overmarking by the judges and sucking up to her husband by Brucie is starting to turn me against her.

Kara, Matt and anyone other than Pam for the final!!!!!
BMLisa
11-12-2010
I think Len loves to make excuses, He was always the apologiser for Darren Gough's hopeless latin, by saying "well he's a man's man!" Same with Pamela! "Oh let her off she's old i'nt she"
Monkseal
11-12-2010
Originally Posted by trevvytrev21:
“ Denise is vastly underrated. Her Samba was immense, too.”

And her paso. And tango. She even has one of the all-time great trainwreck dances by a contender in her jive. Much more fun than watching Scott get dragged round by the neck or Matt's salsamba. Even when she was awful she was better at it than most other dancers.
missfrankiecat
11-12-2010
Originally Posted by fancynancy:
“He'll be doing Strictly next year if she reaches the final - simple as, overmarking mystery solved. Shrugs.”

He may say that now but I think it highly unlikely. He actually has a reasonably successful film career with projects in the pipeline.
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