Originally Posted by slappers r us:
“oh pet
is it past bedtime
sorry couldnt resist
”
“oh pet
is it past bedtime
sorry couldnt resist
”
Yeah well, I am a hour ahead of you. LOL
Now officially as big a fix as the x factor
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Originally Posted by Aeryn:
“Yeah well, I am a hour ahead of you. LOL”
“Yeah well, I am a hour ahead of you. LOL
”
Not me, kwart voor negen is nog vroeg, Aeryn!
Originally Posted by allgrownup:
“Not me, kwart voor negen is nog vroeg, Aeryn!”
“Not me, kwart voor negen is nog vroeg, Aeryn!
”
Dat is het ook, 't was maar een geintje. ha ha
Originally Posted by Aeryn:
“Dat is het ook, 't was maar een geintje. ha ha”
“Dat is het ook, 't was maar een geintje. ha ha
”
Ok, let's get back to English or we'll get kicked off the board for being cliquey!
Originally Posted by allgrownup:
“Ok, let's get back to English or we'll get kicked off the board for being cliquey!”
“Ok, let's get back to English or we'll get kicked off the board for being cliquey!
”
True, the people on here are a tad bit sensitive tonight.
Originally Posted by lach doch mal:
“I would just give up, if I were you. Logic is not going to win. Conspiracy it is!
If you like all of them, you can actually see why the judges did what they did (and I might be the only one, but Kara's rumba was not very emotional, Rachel was so much better). I'm just now waiting for someone telling me that Gavin is undermarked tonight, because his viennese waltz was a revelation.
”
“I would just give up, if I were you. Logic is not going to win. Conspiracy it is!
If you like all of them, you can actually see why the judges did what they did (and I might be the only one, but Kara's rumba was not very emotional, Rachel was so much better). I'm just now waiting for someone telling me that Gavin is undermarked tonight, because his viennese waltz was a revelation.
”
The voice of reason!
As someone with no real favourites, and whose 'best' changes week to week, I agree.
Kara danced sublimely this weekend, and her rumba in particular was danced to the point of excellence, but I felt no emotion in it, it was a bit on the clinical side for me. It was more an exercise of her talent than a dance about romance. Nothing wrong with that, and it was AMAZING, but it left me cold.
Originally Posted by jennewrobo:
“Perhaps the producers are angling for a mature female winner this year! She is a good mover, she remembers the choreography, but no way is she as good as Matt or Kara.
Engineering at its finest - it is SHOW BUSINESS and it stinks. The judging this year has been VERY VERY POOR IMPO”
“Perhaps the producers are angling for a mature female winner this year! She is a good mover, she remembers the choreography, but no way is she as good as Matt or Kara.
Engineering at its finest - it is SHOW BUSINESS
and it stinks. The judging this year has been VERY VERY POOR IMPO”
In there somewhere is a question of how you mark someone older. Do you want them to tell Pamela to do something that no 60 year old could? Gapping she can avoid and ought to be penalised for. Hip joints are as they are on your X rays and most people's deteriorate with age.
As a dancer and actor Pamela' arguably is better than Matt - as a gymnast she's not but that may not help his routines. Kara v Pamela is more difficult. They need somehow to allow more for difficulty in Kara's routines and to still avoid penalising Pamela for not doing the impossible. Neither is easy when they also need to get rid of Gavin and Ann and their marks are higher for them to avoid attracting votes to them. When you are giving Gavin 8s and 9s you just don't have enough marks to split Pamela and Kara at the top. If you don't give Gavin 8 or 9 he may never go.
Originally Posted by Aeryn:
“True, the people on here are a tad bit sensitive tonight.”
“True, the people on here are a tad bit sensitive tonight.
”
Just a tad? It's not as bad as last night yet but I suspect carnage later! Fan Wars FTW!
Originally Posted by katyb0408:
“I am livid. It's such a fix. I think Pamela is amazing don't get me wrong but there is now way she is better than Kara or matt??
Does Pamela have some juicy gossip on the judges? Are they scared of Billy?
The leaderboard has been rigged up so that either matt or Scott will go with Gavin. It makes me not want to watch these shows as it makes no difference who the public like as the producers and judges just engineer it.
If I was matt or Kara tonight I wod be fuming”
“I am livid. It's such a fix. I think Pamela is amazing don't get me wrong but there is now way she is better than Kara or matt??
Does Pamela have some juicy gossip on the judges? Are they scared of Billy?
The leaderboard has been rigged up so that either matt or Scott will go with Gavin. It makes me not want to watch these shows as it makes no difference who the public like as the producers and judges just engineer it.
If I was matt or Kara tonight I wod be fuming”
Bearing in mind the fact that Pamela danced last and that even giving her a fourty meant that she was 5 points BEHIND Kara, why should she be fuming????????
Maybe they gave her full marks so people wouldn't think that Kara is being as favoured as she is.
I can understand what might be gained from fixing X Factor but who would benefit from a fix in Strictly?
Originally Posted by Dollystanford:
“pamela makes fewer mistakes because her routines are easier - and yet Len claims he likes people who 'dance on the edge'
she doesn't have the style or grace of kara either”
“pamela makes fewer mistakes because her routines are easier - and yet Len claims he likes people who 'dance on the edge'
she doesn't have the style or grace of kara either”
Yes, i dont understand that. Dancing on the edge, well if theres a mistake, so what. Id rather see Kara dance on the edge than watch anyone else
Speaking of fixes ... the thought occurred to me that Bruno's 9 for Matt was a way of ensuring Matt and Scott tied.
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“In there somewhere is a question of how you mark someone older. Do you want them to tell Pamela to do something that no 60 year old could? Gapping she can avoid and ought to be penalised for. Hip joints are as they are on your X rays and most people's deteriorate with age.”
“In there somewhere is a question of how you mark someone older. Do you want them to tell Pamela to do something that no 60 year old could? Gapping she can avoid and ought to be penalised for. Hip joints are as they are on your X rays and most people's deteriorate with age.”
Is that why she sat on a chair at the start and end of a dance about a bullfight (and got 35 for it
)?
Originally Posted by Daisy_M:
“I can understand what might be gained from fixing X Factor but who would benefit from a fix in Strictly?”
“I can understand what might be gained from fixing X Factor but who would benefit from a fix in Strictly?
”
I can think of 2 reasons . Len said if she was in the final Billy would do SCD next year, imagine the kudos of having him there and the increased viewing figures
and Pamela is on the tour , always useful to have winner on it
Last week I felt was all about engineering Pamela a chance of the semis as she was vunerable
This week it was about ensuring she became a finalist
Heavan know why they want to overmark Pamela but they do , what she does is done well , but for me there is never any wow in it and hence should never get 40
Originally Posted by boddism:
“I was referring to the Most Venerable One and Supreme Ruler of the Universe (and ITV/tabloids) but I'm sure your comparison also applies!”
“I was referring to the Most Venerable One and Supreme Ruler of the Universe (and ITV/tabloids) but I'm sure your comparison also applies!”
What was the fix with Louisa? I can't remember... thanks!
edit: sorry just realised this should be aimed at the other poster, this quote is about x factor.
Originally Posted by blowup:
“What was the fix with Louisa? I can't remember... thanks!
edit: sorry just realised this should be aimed at the other poster, this quote is about x factor.”
“What was the fix with Louisa? I can't remember... thanks!
edit: sorry just realised this should be aimed at the other poster, this quote is about x factor.”
The sudden appearance of the dance off which got rid of her and saved Emma.
Louisa would have probably gone anyway being bottom with the judges IIRC but it was mean.
None of Pamela's dances have been special, breathtaking or outstanding - the overmarking of her performances is an absolute farce. This lack of fairness has really spoilt my enjoyment of this dhow. Yes, Pamela will be in the finals, and many people will be pleased, but I don't want to see another one of her boring overmarked dances or any more fakeness and gushing.
Originally Posted by katyb0408:
“I am livid. It's such a fix. I think Pamela is amazing don't get me wrong but there is now way she is better than Kara or matt??
Does Pamela have some juicy gossip on the judges? Are they scared of Billy?
The leaderboard has been rigged up so that either matt or Scott will go with Gavin. It makes me not want to watch these shows as it makes no difference who the public like as the producers and judges just engineer it.
If I was matt or Kara tonight I wod be fuming”
“I am livid. It's such a fix. I think Pamela is amazing don't get me wrong but there is now way she is better than Kara or matt??
Does Pamela have some juicy gossip on the judges? Are they scared of Billy?
The leaderboard has been rigged up so that either matt or Scott will go with Gavin. It makes me not want to watch these shows as it makes no difference who the public like as the producers and judges just engineer it.
If I was matt or Kara tonight I wod be fuming”
Please tell me you realise after so many years that the Judges are very biased and have their favourites... It happens year on year. I always thought judges should not show any favouritism, but hey ho... They do... Alesha and Bruno are the worse... Unfortunately I do feel that Len is too much on the band wagon this year also. It has made for very cringe worthy viewing this year.
I'd like Matt to win, but if honest, Kara or Pamela winning would also be fine.
Originally Posted by Hermione:
“None of Pamela's dances have been special, breathtaking or outstanding - the overmarking of her performances is an absolute farce. This lack of fairness has really spoilt my enjoyment of this dhow. Yes, Pamela will be in the finals, and many people will be pleased, but I don't want to see another one of her boring overmarked dances or any more fakeness and gushing.”
“None of Pamela's dances have been special, breathtaking or outstanding - the overmarking of her performances is an absolute farce. This lack of fairness has really spoilt my enjoyment of this dhow. Yes, Pamela will be in the finals, and many people will be pleased, but I don't want to see another one of her boring overmarked dances or any more fakeness and gushing.”
Im with you there. It has spoilt the enjoyment of it for me, too. I cant stand to see the fakeness and gushing, its really off putting and quite cringey.
Originally Posted by Georgi M:
“Eh Len and Bruno how was Gavin good enough to be awarded only one Mark below matt kara etc make absolutely no
Sense”
“Eh Len and Bruno how was Gavin good enough to be awarded only one Mark below matt kara etc make absolutely no
Sense”
I think it's because they've lost all but 2 of their paddles and with cut-backs I wouldn't expect them to be replaced!!
To my layman eyes there is absolutely no way that Pamela is better than Kara and I can't fathom the marking at all. I think my wife hit it on the head when she suggested that the BBC are trying to redeem themselves against the charges of ageism (particularly female ageism) on a number of news and current affairs programmes.
If true, how ironic that it might be one of the new bright young things from Countryfile who might unjustly suffer as a result.
If true, how ironic that it might be one of the new bright young things from Countryfile who might unjustly suffer as a result.
Originally Posted by Dai Clust:
“To my layman eyes there is absolutely no way that Pamela is better than Kara and I can't fathom the marking at all. I think my wife hit it on the head when she suggested that the BBC are trying to redeem themselves against the charges of ageism (particularly female ageism) on a number of news and current affairs programmes.
If true, how ironic that it might be one of the new bright young things from Countryfile who might unjustly suffer as a result.”
“To my layman eyes there is absolutely no way that Pamela is better than Kara and I can't fathom the marking at all. I think my wife hit it on the head when she suggested that the BBC are trying to redeem themselves against the charges of ageism (particularly female ageism) on a number of news and current affairs programmes.
If true, how ironic that it might be one of the new bright young things from Countryfile who might unjustly suffer as a result.”
All the above is crap! As much as the Judges love and adore Pamela, the viewing public must also be voting in droves for her... You cannot fake that! Think before you redeem, 'tis always a much deeper level to admit.
Come on Matt! He is my man... (Hopefully) x
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“The reason they overmark her is that she is doing badly in the publuc vote and they are trying to keep him in the competition”
“The reason they overmark her is that she is doing badly in the publuc vote and they are trying to keep him in the competition”
See, I don't get this. Surely it would be better to have the more popular contestants in the final, as opposed to people the public are at best ambivalent about?
(Not arguing with you, btw, it just seems a bit counter-productive - after all it was very obvious how unpopular Lisa was and they still shoehorned her into the final.)
Originally Posted by allgrownup:
“Well it was suddenly introduced the week before the semis series 4. Lo and behold, sacrifice Louisa to keep the Bunton in. I'm not bitter, me”
“Well it was suddenly introduced the week before the semis series 4. Lo and behold, sacrifice Louisa to keep the Bunton in. I'm not bitter, me
”
Wasn't the dance off just in the semi, between Matt and Emma and down to public vote - they reopened the voting lines didn't they, far as I recall? It wasn't the judges who decided who went through.
Personally, I felt it was Carole who was robbed, the night she went!
Originally Posted by reclinewithme:
“The judges have to mark to certain criteria, though, don't they, deducting marks for things that wouldn't necessarily bother us at home? I'd give Kara tens every week because I enjoy her dances more than anyone else's, but Pamela (who is also astonishingly good, btw) is delivering what the judges need, evidently.”
“The judges have to mark to certain criteria, though, don't they, deducting marks for things that wouldn't necessarily bother us at home? I'd give Kara tens every week because I enjoy her dances more than anyone else's, but Pamela (who is also astonishingly good, btw) is delivering what the judges need, evidently.”
No, they don't have to do that. There doesn't seem to be anything the judges have to do when deciding on their marks in SCD.
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