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Old 12-12-2010, 01:29
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The voice of reason!

As someone with no real favourites, and whose 'best' changes week to week, I agree.

Kara danced sublimely this weekend, and her rumba in particular was danced to the point of excellence, but I felt no emotion in it, it was a bit on the clinical side for me. It was more an exercise of her talent than a dance about romance. Nothing wrong with that, and it was AMAZING, but it left me cold.
There are plenty of people it didn't leave cold, though, and who could see plenty of emotion in it.
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Old 12-12-2010, 01:33
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I personally find something unlikeable about Pamela, even though she is a good dancer but not as good as Matt or Kara. This years Strictly has been wierd.
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Old 12-12-2010, 02:55
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I am livid. It's such a fix. I think Pamela is amazing don't get me wrong but there is now way she is better than Kara or matt??

Does Pamela have some juicy gossip on the judges? Are they scared of Billy?

The leaderboard has been rigged up so that either matt or Scott will go with Gavin. It makes me not want to watch these shows as it makes no difference who the public like as the producers and judges just engineer it.

If I was matt or Kara tonight I wod be fuming
Total irritating nonsense.
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Old 12-12-2010, 04:41
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Maybe it could be that the judges felt that Pamela danced best. Listen folks I think she is excellent. And she is an inspiration. And wouldn't it be amazing for a female pensioner to win a reality show. And a dancing one too. And by the way I love Kara and Matt.
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Old 12-12-2010, 07:53
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Maybe it could be that the judges felt that Pamela danced best. Listen folks I think she is excellent. And she is an inspiration. And wouldn't it be amazing for a female pensioner to win a reality show. And a dancing one too. And by the way I love Kara and Matt.
Why is she an inspiration? Because of her plastic surgery? Because everything she says is an innuendo? Because she flashes off all her bits whenever she can?

For all these reasons she doesn't inspire me.
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Old 12-12-2010, 08:09
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I personally find something unlikeable about Pamela, even though she is a good dancer but not as good as Matt or Kara. This years Strictly has been wierd.


It`s a GREAT fix!! and.....the BBC don`t care... They don`t hide it anymore .
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Old 12-12-2010, 08:13
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Why is she an inspiration? Because of her plastic surgery? Because everything she says is an innuendo? Because she flashes off all her bits whenever she can?

For all these reasons she doesn't inspire me.
I find Pamela's gushing a pain in the bum, but do think her dancing, and her ballroom in particular, is excellent - her age has nothing whatever to do with it.

She was streets ahead of Felicity and Miles ahead of Ann who weren't that much older than her.

I for one find that she is an inspiration to older ladies (like me!) that age is a fact not a state of mind - she has consistently danced better than most of the other contestants years younger than she is - and she fully deserves to still be in at this stage of the competition! FWIW - she doesn't "flash her bits" any more than any other female dancer does

I'm pleased that James has finally got a partner good enough and popular enough to allow him to progress this year too!
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Old 12-12-2010, 08:27
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I find Pamela's gushing a pain in the bum, but do think her dancing, and her ballroom in particular, is excellent - her age has nothing whatever to do with it.

She was streets ahead of Felicity and Miles ahead of Ann who weren't that much older than her.

I for one find that she is an inspiration to older ladies (like me!) that age is a fact not a state of mind - she has consistently danced better than most of the other contestants years younger than she is - and she fully deserves to still be in at this stage of the competition! FWIW - she doesn't "flash her bits" any more than any other female dancer does

I'm pleased that James has finally got a partner good enough and popular enough to allow him to progress this year too!
I'm not an older lady (closer in age to Kara), but I still find her an inspiration and something to aspire too. The plastic surgery argument is stupid, it's become acceptable and lots of females are now almost forced to do it (I probably wouldn't but hey ho).

I particularly agree about the bit in bold. Where is she flashing her bits more than the others. Or does it annoy people that she is over a certain age and flashin her bits? I suggest we lock up all people over 60, they really shouldn't be allowed to even be out on the street anymore, should they. If I have a figure like her when I'm 61, I will certainly show it!
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Old 12-12-2010, 08:35
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Kara is the better dancer, but Pamela makes fewer mistakes.
lol I don't think so Pam wobbles all the time the judges just ignore it
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Old 12-12-2010, 09:07
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lol I don't think so Pam wobbles all the time the judges just ignore it
So does Kara and it get ignored as well. They both deserve to be in the final.
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Old 12-12-2010, 09:43
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Well I prefer to find inspiration from someone who has done good in the world and left this place in a better place than when they started rather than from a self-promoter desperately trying to hang onto her youth.
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Old 12-12-2010, 09:47
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Kara is the better dancer, but Pamela makes fewer mistakes.
Who have you been watching dance!!!!
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Old 12-12-2010, 09:55
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Every year without fail - "Somebody got more marks than my favourite. It's all a fix. The BBC want this result..."
It's not. The judges just don't happen to agree with you. But never mind, you can still vote, and if enough punters with phones share your opinion, you can even get your own way. It happened last year, and the year before, so no need for the conspiracy theories.
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Old 12-12-2010, 10:01
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The scoring is reverse-ageism because no way is Pamela a better dancer than Kara. They overlook Pamela's mistakes because she's 61. It's pathetic!
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Old 12-12-2010, 10:41
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I think Pamela is doing a great job, but she does get easier routines, she is nowhere near as light on her feet as Kara, and personally I find her a bit dull to watch. Neither of the routines in which she scored 40 were worth a 40 IMO, and I'm not really sure what's going on here.
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Old 12-12-2010, 10:48
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My theory is that they want Pamela as a judge to replace Alesha - better spoken, and with the extra psychology dimension.

Personally I can't stand her or her lumpen, obvious dancing. I'm "heavy" myself, and I find her insistence on thrusting those great chunky thighs at us every week quite embarrassing. What are the costume designers thinking of!!
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Old 12-12-2010, 10:51
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Well I prefer to find inspiration from someone who has done good in the world and left this place in a better place than when they started rather than from a self-promoter desperately trying to hang onto her youth.
Shame you are not taking into account the work she does overseas then in war- torn areas working with survivors then.

I love pamela and james but still want kara to win because she is the best dancer-- also its the judges that award the marks not Pamela and anyway now that there are two women they have made it easier for Matt (the Beebs new golden boy according to the nicely times Daily Fail spread yesterday) to win.
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Old 12-12-2010, 10:53
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Wasn't the dance off just in the semi, between Matt and Emma and down to public vote - they reopened the voting lines didn't they, far as I recall? It wasn't the judges who decided who went through.

Personally, I felt it was Carole who was robbed, the night she went!
Oooh, I loved the original and one and only Team Cutler too. Carole-cam was hilarious.

I must say, how exactly it happened, I'm not sure but it was Louisa that bit the dust in my head. But I suspect that there was quite a bit of the following post going on in that situation.

Every year without fail - "Somebody got more marks than my favourite. It's all a fix. The BBC want this result..."
It's not. The judges just don't happen to agree with you. But never mind, you can still vote, and if enough punters with phones share your opinion, you can even get your own way. It happened last year, and the year before, so no need for the conspiracy theories.
There are however always years when you get too invested (see above) and you can't see it like that. Somehow we've all been there one way or another, some more dignified, some slightly less.
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Old 12-12-2010, 10:54
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My theory is that they want Pamela as a judge to replace Alesha - better spoken, and with the extra psychology dimension.
Stuff of nightmares!
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Old 12-12-2010, 10:56
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Total irritating nonsense.
Couldn't agree with you more
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Old 12-12-2010, 10:58
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Pamela's performances are very good. I can understand how she might inspire others; at 61 she's competing comfortably with many celebs years younger and the only one who is consistently out-performing her is Kara - that's quite a feat.

I can understand how she pees people off too. She's ott and very "in your face". It may be genuine or not but either way I can see how it annoys.

She is (imo) being somewhat overmarked and I think it is partly to keep her out of danger. However, she's probably the third best dancer there now (Scott is travelling backwards at an alarming rate) and I have no problem with her making up the numbers in the final if she gets there. Cos that's really all she'll be doing - if she's there, she'll be first out. If it's a fix, it's a fairly small and, in the long run, insignificant one. The leaderboard last night doesn't offer much protection to anyone with the tied scores.
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Old 12-12-2010, 11:25
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Please don't forget that Bruno (look at me look at me!!!!) was at one time the man who taught Pamela to dance.
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Old 12-12-2010, 11:28
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It`s a GREAT fix!! and.....the BBC don`t care... They don`t hide it anymore .
Not entirely sure there is any conspiracy, what has anyone got to gain from "fixing" the winner ? Both the judges and the contestants are successful people who have established careers outside the show. I suppose celebrities whose star has faded might hope to return to former glories after doing well on the show, but the judges have no reason to help them do so, (unless they are on a back hander - unlikely !). The producers may want to stir up controversy to increase viewing figures, I suppose.

The public make eccentric decisions which remove good dancers from the show too early, so if the judges want to counteract that by over marking certain contestants to ensure that the best get to the later stages then I am happy for them to do so.
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