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Old 12-12-2010, 14:42
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As a big Cher fan, I was very happy with her placing.

Firstly, she made the final and that's a big two fingered salute to the small minority of obsessive bullies who have tried to convince us all season that she's hated by everyone and won't go anywhere. They've been categorically proven wrong.

More importantly, Cher is now free from the repressive chains of a SyCo contract. I'm sure Cowell gets first refusal on a contract, but since she didn't win, she'll be less micro-managed than whatever poor sod ends up with the SyCo curse, sorry, contract.

There will be less pressure on her to deliver the goods, and greater creative freedom, I would hope. Cher will undoubtedly release an album and if she gets the guest appearances right, it could well be very successful indeed.
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Old 12-12-2010, 14:45
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I'm not really understanding The Final. Last week was the semi-final. So, if last night was The Final, what's tonight? The Final Final?
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Old 12-12-2010, 14:47
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I'm not really understanding The Final. Last week was the semi-final. So, if last night was The Final, what's tonight? The Final Final?
Every week there's 2 episodes. BOTH episodes last week were the semi-final, and BOTH episodes this week constitutute the final.

I'm also pleased with Cher's placing.
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Old 12-12-2010, 14:49
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I'm also pleased with Cher's placing.
So am I. I won't have to see or hear the talentless chav any more.
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Old 12-12-2010, 14:52
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I won't have to see or hear the talentless chav any more.
+1 Hopefully thats the last we see of her!
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Old 12-12-2010, 14:54
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I swear I've read the same thing by fans of Tabby, Eton Road, Ben Mills, Jamie Afro.

The world's still waiting.

And Louis said in NOW magazine that Simon had promised Cher a record deal regardless of where she came in the competition weeks ago. Either way I wouldn't get too excited.
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Old 12-12-2010, 14:56
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I swear I've read the same thing by fans of Tabby, Eton Road, Ben Mills, Jamie Afro.

The world's still waiting.

And Louis said in NOW magazine that Simon had promised Cher a record deal regardless of where she came in the competition weeks ago. Either way I wouldn't get too excited.
ABSO'BLOODY'LUTELY !

Well said, dude . . . . .
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Old 12-12-2010, 14:57
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Last nights first part of a two part final.

One Dirdction: when are they going to learn to sing as a group....boring

Matt Cardle: would I pay to see him in concert, NO, boring man with a large ego.

Rebecca Ferguson: Lovely recording voice for late night smoky jazz-type songs. If I went to her concert I would fall asleep...no charisma whatsoever. I feel like putting a key in her back and winding her up to get some movement on stage.

Cher Lloyd: Now, she gave the best two performances of yesterday's final. Would I pay to go to her concerts YES YES YES...would be lively eventful affairs. I like the way she has not gone down the boring route
by toeing the line on the X Factor. She has stayed herself throughout the series: called integrity.
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Old 12-12-2010, 15:13
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As a big Cher fan, I was very happy with her placing.

Firstly, she made the final and that's a big two fingered salute to the small minority of obsessive bullies who have tried to convince us all season that she's hated by everyone and won't go anywhere. They've been categorically proven wrong.
IMO the only reason she got to the final was because of the 'surprise' judges vote last weekend.

If the voting percentages are ever released we'll know the truth.
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Old 12-12-2010, 15:13
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So am I. I won't have to see or hear the talentless chav any more.
Until she releases a book on her life. Oh groan!
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Old 12-12-2010, 15:38
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As a big Cher fan, I was very happy with her placing
placed! is dam right as she rightfully should have gone last week anyway. and everyone knows in all contests it's only ever about 3rd 2nd and 1st place, i.e gold silver and bronze.4th place is a non contender, tonight is the real final! 1st 2nd and 3rd place
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Old 12-12-2010, 15:40
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All contestants are under contract for 2 years now so are limited in what they can do.

Once that time is up they are usually forgotten - as history as shown
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Old 12-12-2010, 15:43
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As a big Cher fan, I was very happy with her placing.

Firstly, she made the final and that's a big two fingered salute to the small minority of obsessive bullies who have tried to convince us all season that she's hated by everyone and won't go anywhere. They've been categorically proven wrong.

More importantly, Cher is now free from the repressive chains of a SyCo contract. I'm sure Cowell gets first refusal on a contract, but since she didn't win, she'll be less micro-managed than whatever poor sod ends up with the SyCo curse, sorry, contract.

There will be less pressure on her to deliver the goods, and greater creative freedom, I would hope. Cher will undoubtedly release an album and if she gets the guest appearances right, it could well be very successful indeed.
She's gone, get over it.
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Old 12-12-2010, 15:43
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Firstly, she made the final and that's a big two fingered salute to the small minority of obsessive bullies who have tried to convince us all season that she's hated by everyone and won't go anywhere. They've been categorically proven wrong
Wrong. She's only there because they changed the rules last week so the judges could save her. everyone can see right through the fixes, and she knows it herself, and I'm sure she knows she shouldnt be there, if it was based on public votes.

More importantly, Cher is now free from the repressive chains of a SyCo contract. I'm sure Cowell gets first refusal on a contract, but since she didn't win, she'll be less micro-managed than whatever poor sod ends up with the SyCo curse, sorry, contract.
And wrong again. The top 9 who are goin on tour are all under contract until after the tour is completed and Simon gets refusal. Then its about 4 months after the tour for anyone who got into the finals. Last night was the finals round 1, so Cher is still under that clamp

Besides, Cher hasnt shown any proper artistry at all this season. It's easy to mash up 2 songs and do a dance number, but it'll be a whole new story trying to write an album for her

byebye Cher!
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Old 12-12-2010, 15:50
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All contestants are under contract for 2 years now so are limited in what they can do.

Once that time is up they are usually forgotten - as history as shown
two years! are you serious? no wonder most of them have never been heard from again.
I figured they signed with modest management for a year, probably with options in management company's favour to renew when the next years x factor starts but most of them dropped at the end of that year.
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Old 12-12-2010, 15:53
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Cher will do well because she's the first artist of her type to reach the final, I'm expecting big things for Cher what a dull lifeless final this will be.
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Old 12-12-2010, 15:55
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And even though she's gone, people who don't like Cher still getting wound up at the thought of Cher being successful seriously it's quite amusing how angry people can get
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Old 12-12-2010, 15:58
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Cher was the only contestant who had stage presence.

Matt is a good singer - but I could not watch him all of the time (though I hope he wins now)

Rebecca is also good - but not perfect. Last night her voice was vibrating.

One Dimension - say no more - I am fed up with these miming little Thunderbirds
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Old 12-12-2010, 16:00
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two years! are you serious? no wonder most of them have never been heard from again.
I figured they signed with modest management for a year, probably with options in management company's favour to renew when the next years x factor starts but most of them dropped at the end of that year.

I too thought it was for one year. Two seems pretty harsh/OTT.

I did post a thread about the contract and how it works. Can a record Company 'buy them out'. I'd love to know the ins and outs of the contract.

I recall there being something about not being able to 'diss' SC. Any more anyone?
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Old 12-12-2010, 16:03
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And even though she's gone, people who don't like Cher still getting wound up at the thought of Cher being successful seriously it's quite amusing how angry people can get

I don't get angry about Chers future. I won't be buying into anything she produces, so it doesn't bother me if people do. Just as long as she isn't forced on me every Saturday night. I know, I could have just switched off, or go make a cuppa, which i usually did. I don't want to see her again is all.
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Old 12-12-2010, 16:04
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Winning would certainly not have been ideal for Cher, and I think she handled her exit very well indeed. Any winner will be micro-managed and will never be able to fully move on from the X-Factor: for some acts that's not too much of a millstone, for someone like Cher, though, it'd be a killer.
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Old 12-12-2010, 16:06
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Plus she wouldn't be signed to syco on it's own, more likely a joint deal
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Old 12-12-2010, 16:09
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As a big Cher fan, I was very happy with her placing.

Firstly, she made the final and that's a big two fingered salute to the small minority of obsessive bullies who have tried to convince us all season that she's hated by everyone and won't go anywhere. They've been categorically proven wrong.

More importantly, Cher is now free from the repressive chains of a SyCo contract. I'm sure Cowell gets first refusal on a contract, but since she didn't win, she'll be less micro-managed than whatever poor sod ends up with the SyCo curse, sorry, contract.

There will be less pressure on her to deliver the goods, and greater creative freedom, I would hope. Cher will undoubtedly release an album and if she gets the guest appearances right, it could well be very successful indeed.
What rubbish if she had won you be chatting the bighest load of nonsese about how she winning was good for her etc

just bitter she went out ahey
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Old 12-12-2010, 16:13
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And even though she's gone, people who don't like Cher still getting wound up at the thought of Cher being successful seriously it's quite amusing how angry people can get
LMAO who is getting wound up do you think people care how well she does or not, people are saying she should not count her chicken before they have hatched.

The show is not even over and people are getting excited like she will bring out her 1st tune on monday
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Old 12-12-2010, 16:14
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Winning would certainly not have been ideal for Cher, and I think she handled her exit very well indeed. Any winner will be micro-managed and will never be able to fully move on from the X-Factor: for some acts that's not too much of a millstone, for someone like Cher, though, it'd be a killer.
It would have been ideal for her because of her style as she wants to be marketed as a rapper and not as a singer it would have been perfect for her because she would not therefore be stuck doing recycled covers she would have had material written for her and possibly would have worked under decent artistic writers from the rap / RnB scene stateside as that is where the real credible writers are for her style of music. would have been right up her street
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