Well Pamela hasn't had to do the samba, I don't know about Kara.

Why is that funny?

Seriously cannot stand the praising and fawning the judges do over Pam. Yes she is in her 60s and performing well for her age, but do they say the same about overweight people? I don't remember them saying that whats-her-face from Eastenders danced well for a fat bird??? So why make any reference to Pam's age?

To me they are just sucking up to Connolly. Hope Pam doesn't win it.

... have you ever thought of a career in the diplomatic corps?

Kara hasn't done one either. Maybe this weekend?


I'm not sure either!

I think "carthorse" is a bit mean; she's amazingly light on her feet for someone of her age and weight. Pamela connects with the music and you can really tell how much she's enjoying the whole experience.

Kara deserves to have the highest average score, but I think Pam has deserved the scores she has received.

I do think Kara has been undermarked quite a bit. Her average score is now 35.1; Alesha's has the highest average score of 36.5, and I think Kara is a MUCH better dancer than Alesha was. In saying that, Alesha sold her dances well, but I think she was heavily overmarked, as she wasn't a great technical dancer.

For what purpose? What influence do you think Billy Connolly possesses ...... and over what?

I hope you're not referring to Size 12 Honest I Am Natalie Cassidy?

I think Pamela is best suited to the slow dances. Anything that requires speed of movement exposes her weaknesses - she can sometimes be heavy and ungainly.

She's probably been good enough to reach the final, but I wish she'd been able to get there without extra assistance from the judges.

http://www.ianvictoria.co.uk/comedancing8.htm

----------samba waltz salsa rumba tango jive FT cha AS Charl. VW paso Qstep AT TOT
Kara------??------??---36-----39---38----34---32--30-35---32----39---37----31---38--421
Pamela --??------31---32-----35---34----26---33--32-37---38----40---35----40---??--415
Matt-------38------??---38-----35---38----35---31--31-33---35----35---??----31---34--404

Of the dances still to come, the waltz is known in Strictly to be a four 10's specialty.
Samba will suit supple Kara perfectly, Pamela less so.
AT requires feminine thigh eloquence at which Kara excelled, cannot see Pamela shining in AT.
Paso will not be easy for Matt with the cape usurping the matador.

Pamela is the new Lisa!!! Do I care- No. But there is a chance of redeeming her too, with a grotesquely revealing costume, a pretentious storyline and some ritual humiliation ...

Great post Sid sweetie and not a spiteful word used either.

I would add that Kara also had extra assistance from the judges that she even didn't need to reach the final.

PS <smooooocherooonie>

Wouldn't it be awesauce if after all the stripping off Pam and Jimmy have done this series, in the showdance they go even further and strip off to reveal they are actually Lisa & Brendan in disguise here to treat us to Bacofoil Showdance the sequel?

I'm not quite sure of the point you are trying to make, or perhaps you are posting tongue-in-cheek ?
To me, it just confirms how much Pamela has been over-marked throughout the series.

Sadly Matt got a 28 for his salsa, not a 38

That said, I'd have thought the waltz and paso were the perfect dances with which to outshine the girls in the final - samba and AT are toughies at the best of times, and Matt's shown he can do a great aggressive dance in the foxtrot and the tango.

Anyway, back to the actual thread debate - Pamela's not actually a lumpy dancer. James has choreographed plenty of lifts for them and she's managed them all with a lot more grace than several of the lighter girls. The difficulty lies in the comparison with Kara, which is inescapably unflattering. Still, James is up to the challenge of showcasing their strengths and I can't really see it being an issue.

"Overmarked" on here often means "I like someone else more. It isn't fair that they keep getting lower marks".

Not my style Buddy

I'm not sure I agree about Kara though. If anything, I reckon the judges haven't appreciated her enough sometimes!

Thanks for the <smooooooooooooch!> x x x

I don't know... but a touching story about how love can cross the species barrier like Beauty and the Belgian Heavy Draft Horse comes to mind. It ends with a lift of tragic beauty, James lifting the expired horse above his head and them both plunging into a vat of boiling glue.

How lovely.

I agree, it often does.
However, in this case, I don't think so.
I would just ask anyone, regardless of their likes and dislikes, one question...do you honestly, hand on heart, believe Pamela's two maximum scores of 40 were deserved on merit ?

Quite.

No dance on Strictly has ever been perfect, so a score of 40 has never been achieved because of technical perfection.

I think Pamela connected with the songs and the dances very well. Technically, she was good, and she performed very well.

Kara's biggest strength is her technical perfection, but she really seems to dance for herself and Artem, and not the audience. She doesn't really "sell" her dances very well.

I take your point, but then she would be accused of not connecting with her partner. Other dancers have done that in the past, played to the audience and virtually ignored their partners. I suppose it depends on the dance, for a romantic routine, the audience should almost cease to exist for the chemistry to work ?

And here is a Belgian Heavy Draft Horse, (sorry couldn't find a mare) which is actually a Brabançon, except that the Americans can't pronounce it:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...DraftHorse.jpg



They are actually delightful creatures, very placid and extraordinarily hard-working. Those still working in Flanders are often treated like family pets.

And here is a Belgian Heavy Draft Horse, (sorry couldn't find a mare) which is actually a Brabançon, except that the Americans can't pronounce it:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...DraftHorse.jpg

On average the Belgian will grow to weigh slightly over 1 ton or 2,000 pounds. Currently, the world's tallest Belgian Draft is Radar, a gelding foaled in 1998 in Iowa. He stands at 19.3½ hands high, which means he is 6 feet 7½ inches (2.02 metres) tall at the withers, and weighs over 2,400 lb (1,090 kg).[2]



Sorry, this was meant to be an edit.

Yes, I'm not really sure what the right balance is.

The only reason Kara didn't get 2 perfect scores over the weekend was because her feet came off the floor though. I think people are mad at Pam because she received a 40 for a routine which wasn't as technically perfect as Kara's, but that's a bit unfair. Blame Craig for being such a stickler for the rules, not Pam.

I honestly think Atrem should have changed the choreography for the Rumba after Kara's foot came off the floor in her VW. That annoys me a little.