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Old 14-12-2010, 16:54
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I'm back living with my parents for a while after I had to leave my job for health reasons. Since I got back, I've mostly been buying my own food separately rather than contributing to a big family shop, and doing my own cooking.

Why? Because my parents' cooking is unbelieveably dull. Boiled, floury potatoes every night, and I'm not even exaggerating when I say that (we're Irish). It wouldn't be so bad if they were waxy but my parents won't hear of it. If I suggest having another carb, they enquire whether I'll also be doing potatoes. When my mother used to do beef stew with dumplings, she'd do a big plate of potatoes as well, which always confused me. Surely one carb is enough?

Now, I don't want to seem ungrateful, because we got all the food groups growing up, in the right proportions, but there was just no love. When my mother does bacon and cabbage, it's boiled bacon, cabbage boiled in the same pot to the point of sogginess and boiled potatoes, and THAT'S IT. No flourishes. When she does savoury mince, it just consists of boiling it in water for an hour, no frying and adding flavours, nothing. She also overcooks brussell sprouts to buggery. When they do salads, they don't dress them, it is just like rabbit food.

I have to point out I do love potatoes, but in many different forms. My father won't eat mashed potatoes because they're not "proper potatoes".

My sis and I are much more adventurous cooks than our parents ever were, and have learned it all ourselves.

Anyone else grow up in the kind of food environment I did?
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Old 14-12-2010, 17:18
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It is going to like a measly reply after your post but ... Me, I grew up on plain bog standard type of food. It is because we weren't overly rich and both my parents worked so they didn't really have a lot of time or money to branch out on food stuffs.

But unlike you I have fond memories of the simple foods, I still smile when I think of Cheese on Toast, with Spaghetti and a few sausages on top. Not that I am saying you are ungrateful you just sound like you didn't enjoy the food much.

I too however enjoy cooking and have enjoyed trying new food when presented with the opportunity. But I don't think it was my mums cooking that pushed me to cook myself but rather a necessity to learn because lots of sauces etc. bought from shops have onions in so I had to make my own.

Edit: I seem to have made a pretty long post myself after all
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Old 14-12-2010, 17:30
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But unlike you I have fond memories of the simple foods, I still smile when I think of Cheese on Toast, with Spaghetti and a few sausages on top. Not that I am saying you are ungrateful you just sound like you didn't enjoy the food much.
Well, now, in fairness to my mother, she does a great chicken casserole, and my dad is an expert at cooking eggs properly, so they're not complete lost causes!

But no, for the most part, I don't enjoy their cooking hugely. They're very closed-mined about trying new cuisines as well. They won't go to restaurants that don't serve potatoes with the main course.

Oh, and I started to get interested in cooking at university, when I quickly realised it was much cheaper to cook good, homecooked, healthy food than junk. It used to depress me that most students seemed not to give a fig about food and just saw it as fuel rather than something to be savoured.
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Old 14-12-2010, 17:40
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Well, now, in fairness to my mother, she does a great chicken casserole, and my dad is an expert at cooking eggs properly, so they're not complete lost causes!

But no, for the most part, I don't enjoy their cooking hugely. They're very closed-mined about trying new cuisines as well. They won't go to restaurants that don't serve potatoes with the main course.
Hahaha, My dad is fairly open-minded and will try new things but not too much - he will have a curry, but only one type. And for the most part he will just have steak with something.

My mum on the other hand really doesn't eat that much at all, I have seen her go a week with only a pea butty (one slice of bread a spoon or two of peas and then the bread folded in half) for sustenance I really don't understand how she survives.

But when she goes out for meals she will only eat the same things and doesn't like to venture out of the comfort zone - it makes our Christmas Eve meal a pain as we want her to eat something (not just sit while we all eat) but most times there is no starter or dessert that she likes the look of.

As for you not liking their food for the most part - this has done something good for you, and it has pushed you to be more adventurous and try different things and learn to cook food for yourself.
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Old 14-12-2010, 17:44
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As for you not liking their food for the most part - this has done something good for you, and it has pushed you to be more adventurous and try different things and learn to cook food for yourself.
Very true!
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Old 14-12-2010, 17:59
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I'm afraid I can't relate, we used to get fresh home cooked North indian food using a variety of spices, meats and vegetables. My parents also liked to experiment with other cuisine like Chinese and Italian and they do great roast dinners, so when we did get tinned stuff or junk it was a real treat!
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Old 14-12-2010, 18:04
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We were brought up on boiled potatoes/frozen veg and some kind of frozen pie, sausages, beefburgers in gravy every week night, on Sunday's we pushed the boat out and had bernard matthews roast joint (beef, lamb, etc all tasted the same and looked grey!)

I stayed with my parents regularly recently as my Mum has been very ill (she passed away 5 weeks ago after a short illness), i was cooking all sorts of tempting and fattening dishes for her as she found Dad's menu unappetising. When she passed away i bought food and cooked it for myself whilst filling up the freezer for him, he is now eating homemade shepherds pies, stews and soups (plain mind!) that he does enjoy but if myself and my sister in law didn't do them for him he'd just eat what he's always eaten.

I have basic dishes that i do but i like to try out new things, kids don't seem to mind!
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Old 14-12-2010, 18:06
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"I have never seen so many potatoes at the table! " my Paternal Grandmother commented about my mother's cooking quite a few times.
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Old 14-12-2010, 18:21
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I'm afraid I can't relate, we used to get fresh home cooked North indian food using a variety of spices, meats and vegetables. My parents also liked to experiment with other cuisine like Chinese and Italian and they do great roast dinners, so when we did get tinned stuff or junk it was a real treat!
I am so jealous. I could eat Indian food all day every day.

Have to say, though, my parents didn't use too much tinned stuff. They used fresh veg but just cooked it to tastelessness.
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Old 14-12-2010, 18:25
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My mum was a very plain cook but I always enjoyed my food.

Sunday roast would be followed by bubble and squeak on Monday, Wednesday was a casserole, Friday fish, and Saturday was egg and chips ( can't remember Tuesday's or Thursdays). Every meal was based around potatoes.

She became more adventurous when my brother became a veggie in his teens -pizza and nut roats etc.

TBH, it was a very economical way of feeding a big family and practically nothing went to waste.
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Old 14-12-2010, 18:30
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TBH, it was a very economical way of feeding a big family and practically nothing went to waste.
Well, I agree here, we weren't well off, but they could made it a bit more interesting with little cost.

I think mother and I have different views in that she sees it as a necessary chore, whereas I enjoy cooking even when I'm tired. I love turning my ingredients into a lovely meal.
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Old 14-12-2010, 18:37
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My mother is a good basic cook. Stews, casseroles, soups etc. She is an amazing baker but doesn't bake very often these days. She does have a tendancy to boil all veg to death. Pasta gets the same treatment. My dad on the other hand would cook recipies from all over the world. I swear you could smell the spices and garlic halfway down the street. My friends when I was growing up loved being at our home when my Dad was cooking. I was lucky because of the variety of different food I grew up with. Veg was always fresh and usually from the garden or green house.

I remember getting all excited when I stayed with a friend and her mum served up fish fingers, frozen chips and tinned spagette (someone correct my spelling please) in tomato sauce.

I'm a keen cook and love trying out new food and my daughters are the same. When I cook for my mum she gets stuck in to whatever I make.

Oh and my daughters have always turned their noses up at "junk" or convieniece food(spelling please) and asked for real dinners.
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Old 14-12-2010, 18:58
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I was and I think i've overcompensated in later life as I now tend to make very strong and punchy sauces and dressings etc.
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Old 14-12-2010, 19:20
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I'm back living with my parents for a while after I had to leave my job for health reasons. Since I got back, I've mostly been buying my own food separately rather than contributing to a big family shop, and doing my own cooking.

Why? Because my parents' cooking is unbelieveably dull. Boiled, floury potatoes every night, and I'm not even exaggerating when I say that (we're Irish). It wouldn't be so bad if they were waxy but my parents won't hear of it. If I suggest having another carb, they enquire whether I'll also be doing potatoes. When my mother used to do beef stew with dumplings, she'd do a big plate of potatoes as well, which always confused me. Surely one carb is enough?

Now, I don't want to seem ungrateful, because we got all the food groups growing up, in the right proportions, but there was just no love. When my mother does bacon and cabbage, it's boiled bacon, cabbage boiled in the same pot to the point of sogginess and boiled potatoes, and THAT'S IT. No flourishes. When she does savoury mince, it just consists of boiling it in water for an hour, no frying and adding flavours, nothing. She also overcooks brussell sprouts to buggery. When they do salads, they don't dress them, it is just like rabbit food.

I have to point out I do love potatoes, but in many different forms. My father won't eat mashed potatoes because they're not "proper potatoes".

My sis and I are much more adventurous cooks than our parents ever were, and have learned it all ourselves.

Anyone else grow up in the kind of food environment I did?
Oh this post makes me laugh. I really do feel your pain.

My father is Irish and there are many foods he simply won't touch due to the foods he was brought up on.

For instance, he won't touch a soup/stew or broth (not even try it) as he complains that when he was a kid his mother used to continually serve them "shacklepot" - which from what I can gather is simply a load of stuff boiled forever without any seasoning and thrown into a bowl - fatty bits and all.

His version of a salad is a bit of dry lettuce and tomato. When we offered to dress it for him he was appalled that anyone would put oil and vinegar on a salad.

The only way he knew how to cook mince was to boil it for an hour, and it's the same with vegetables (the few that he will eat).

Recently, after being diagnosed with high cholesterol, I thought my chance had arrived to improve his diet. I supplied him with oven-roasted vegetables dressed in rosemary and thyme, roasted chicken with lemon and tarragon, home made granary bread and all sorts of other stuff.

He hated it all (that which he tried anyway).

He's now back on white bread, albeit he has changed his butter to "Lurpak lighter". He's still boiling his vegetables (diced swede from Farmfoods once per month) and frying his potatoes so often that you need to clean the crockery of grease BEFORE you use it.

We had a breakthrough last week when he told me, "I found this great sauce in Asda on offer for a pound. It's by that Lloyd Grossman chap and it's called 'bol-og-nay-see'."
I was REALLY surprised, and I replied, "Wow Dad. Did you have it with spaghetti?"
"Oh no," he said. "It's very runny. If you put it with spaghetti it would be like one big mess. I just put a table spoon of it on top of my pork chop and chips and it was lovely. Do you really mix a tin of spaghetti with a jar of bol-og-nay-see sauce? I think that sounds awful whether young people do it that way or not!"



Can you see what I'm up against here? LOL
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Old 14-12-2010, 19:32
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I am so jealous. I could eat Indian food all day every day.

Have to say, though, my parents didn't use too much tinned stuff. They used fresh veg but just cooked it to tastelessness.
i meant more like tinned beans, ravioli that sort of stuff. i still like heinz ravioli and devon custard.....
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Old 14-12-2010, 19:47
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Oh this post makes me laugh. I really do feel your pain.

My father is Irish and there are many foods he simply won't touch due to the foods he was brought up on.

For instance, he won't touch a soup/stew or broth (not even try it) as he complains that when he was a kid his mother used to continually serve them "shacklepot" - which from what I can gather is simply a load of stuff boiled forever without any seasoning and thrown into a bowl - fatty bits and all.

His version of a salad is a bit of dry lettuce and tomato. When we offered to dress it for him he was appalled that anyone would put oil and vinegar on a salad.

The only way he knew how to cook mince was to boil it for an hour, and it's the same with vegetables (the few that he will eat).

Recently, after being diagnosed with high cholesterol, I thought my chance had arrived to improve his diet. I supplied him with oven-roasted vegetables dressed in rosemary and thyme, roasted chicken with lemon and tarragon, home made granary bread and all sorts of other stuff.

He hated it all (that which he tried anyway).

He's now back on white bread, albeit he has changed his butter to "Lurpak lighter". He's still boiling his vegetables (diced swede from Farmfoods once per month) and frying his potatoes so often that you need to clean the crockery of grease BEFORE you use it.

We had a breakthrough last week when he told me, "I found this great sauce in Asda on offer for a pound. It's by that Lloyd Grossman chap and it's called 'bol-og-nay-see'."
I was REALLY surprised, and I replied, "Wow Dad. Did you have it with spaghetti?"
"Oh no," he said. "It's very runny. If you put it with spaghetti it would be like one big mess. I just put a table spoon of it on top of my pork chop and chips and it was lovely. Do you really mix a tin of spaghetti with a jar of bol-og-nay-see sauce? I think that sounds awful whether young people do it that way or not!"



Can you see what I'm up against here? LOL
The bol-og-nay-see bit made me

And yeah, my mother's mince cooking method is to cook in water for an hour. It wouldn't be so bad if she would even cook it in stock!
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Old 14-12-2010, 19:57
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This is an interesting thread and until a few years ago I kind of imagined everyone was brought up on food like I was. My Mum was a great cook and my Dad a keen gardener so we had loads of fresh veg.

Everything was cooked from scratch and nothing was wasted. I had no interest in cooking as a teenager and we didn't do it at school and I think my Mother despaired of me. But I got to love cooking after I married and can almost make a meal from nothing and, like my Mum, not a crumb is ever wasted.

What has surprised me is people of my age who say they can't cook and their families live on convenience food! I have heard many stories from people who say they wouldn't have a clue how to cook yorkshire puds and the only "proper" meal they can do is a roast. I've also been told about living on things like beans on toast, Angel Delight, tinned meat and even tinned potatoes.
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Old 14-12-2010, 20:16
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My mother is a good cook, but my MIL? In the 3 years I have been with OH, there have been 2 dishes. Two, based on visiting on average once a month.

Lasagne or roast dinner. Thats it. In 3 years.
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Old 14-12-2010, 21:59
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OP - I find you very funny!

My mum was a good cook but I suppose our food was fairly plain - but still really nice. Her best things she made were meat pies like steak and kidney - and my fave thing was her stew made with mince - it usually had chunks of potato in it and occasionally dumplings.
I enjoyed them then but don't eat meat now.

I don't think it's all down to bad or bland cooking though. It's just the changing times. Even I remember meals accompanied with plainly boiled potatoes with a bit of butter on top - although we did have mash and also home made chips too.

Also things were flavoured then with onions and copious stock cubes! None of the paraphenalia (can't spell that ) that we have today!

Even pasta was looked at differently. Italian is my favourite cuisine now - but my first experience of pasta was having macaroni at home added to milk and sugar as a sort of dessert - I KID YOU NOT!!
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Old 14-12-2010, 22:01
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OP - I find you very funny!
Heh heh, why?
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Old 14-12-2010, 22:11
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Even I remember meals accompanied with plainly boiled potatoes with a bit of butter on top
Well, boiled spuds with butter and salt are a joy - so long as they're waxy.
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Old 14-12-2010, 22:11
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Your opening post of course!

You ungrateful bugger!

Am sure a lot of peeps will identify with your gripes - but I really think it's just down to (probably) your parent's age group. People get stuck in their ways, cooking wise - and tend to stick with 'what they know' for years.

Maybe one answer is to eat out more often - that way they get to experience new foods and dishes that they end up wanting to try making at home.
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Old 14-12-2010, 22:13
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Well, boiled spuds with butter and salt are a joy - so long as they're waxy.
Yep - I s'pose my mum was never afraid of salt!
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Old 14-12-2010, 22:21
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Your opening post of course!

You ungrateful bugger!
No, I pointed out that they did feed me well but that it was boring!
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Old 14-12-2010, 22:42
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We didn't get butter on our potatoes cos our Dad said it was fattening and not good for us! We just had bisto gravy and to this day i do not like it LOL

My Dad decided that no butter, wholemeal bread, no dressing and no fried foods was the way to go to lose weight, the only problem was this made his already plain diet even plainer!
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