I don't watch The Apprenctice to see who is the best businessman/woman but to see a bunch of arrogant so and sos make complete and utter fools of themselves and to my mind the interviews are an integral part of that
Does anyone else NOT like seeing people humiliated in the interviews?
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The thing is, how long are the Candidates in Interview for?
We only see 20 to 30min edited highlights of the whole of the interviews[i would assume 4 to 5 Candidates being Interviewed by 3 people would take more than 30 min], so only form an opinion based on those edited highlights, so in some series the Interviews come across as aggressive, yet the Candidates came saying positive things about the Interview.
We only see 20 to 30min edited highlights of the whole of the interviews[i would assume 4 to 5 Candidates being Interviewed by 3 people would take more than 30 min], so only form an opinion based on those edited highlights, so in some series the Interviews come across as aggressive, yet the Candidates came saying positive things about the Interview.
Well, I was wanting to see Smug Stella get taken down a peg or two, but it looks like she's got them all in check. :sleep:
I don't really like the interviews and always find them a bit cringe worthy. I think I get more embarrassed for them than they do 
Originally Posted by oulandy:
“It's not just the interviews, either. Sugar is a nasty character as well and all his henchmen interviewers - I mean the three originals, not Margaret - are the most peculiarly repulsive set of people I have ever come across. It really isn't reflective of the real world and has nothing to do with how business is conducted despite its pretension to be a serious business programme.”
“It's not just the interviews, either. Sugar is a nasty character as well and all his henchmen interviewers - I mean the three originals, not Margaret - are the most peculiarly repulsive set of people I have ever come across. It really isn't reflective of the real world and has nothing to do with how business is conducted despite its pretension to be a serious business programme.”
Yeah, it's like the higher up in sugar's world you are, the more of a **** you are.
Originally Posted by Jepson:
“I find the interviews the least palatable part of the entire procedure. The interviews bully people just because they know they can get away with it. To me they actually come across a lot worse than the candidates as their bullying is a lot worse than anything we see in the tasks.
If anyone carried on like this in r/l people would walk out of the interview and the interviewer could well get a punch in the face for good measure.
Of course, here, the candidates have already invested so much both in time and emotionally that this isn't an option.
Surely there must be others who don't find this sort of spectacle entertaining?”
“I find the interviews the least palatable part of the entire procedure. The interviews bully people just because they know they can get away with it. To me they actually come across a lot worse than the candidates as their bullying is a lot worse than anything we see in the tasks.
If anyone carried on like this in r/l people would walk out of the interview and the interviewer could well get a punch in the face for good measure.
Of course, here, the candidates have already invested so much both in time and emotionally that this isn't an option.
Surely there must be others who don't find this sort of spectacle entertaining?”
Love the interviews, although the segment with Joanna close to tears seemed a bit excessively harsh
I loved Stuart v Claude, a lot of the stuff I've wanted to Stuart to be told, but I felt they were very hard on Joanna, a bit OTT, but they did speak fondly of her in the boardroom.
They obviously play a persona but again, its good TV
It's all about pushing buttons and seeing what happens.
It's all about pushing buttons and seeing what happens.
Originally Posted by JulesF:
“If you are so criminally stupid as to make wildly exaggerated claims on a CV that you know is going to be picked apart and broadcast to the nation, then a bit of public humiliation is in order.”
“If you are so criminally stupid as to make wildly exaggerated claims on a CV that you know is going to be picked apart and broadcast to the nation, then a bit of public humiliation is in order.”
But if you don't do that, you probably won't even make it past selection. It's a hard line to walk.
In my opinion, what we saw of Stuart Baggs didn't justify the outrage in the boardroom. So by "fully licensed" he meant he had the full license needed to do his telecoms business. It was at worst misleading, and not an outright lie like Lee had.
The other thing I don't like about this stage of the process is that it could all have been done earlier, at the application stage. A few years ago he lied about a rival company going bankrupt; if admitting that in his application is enough to get him fired, then he ought to have been rejected before the show started. It was a waste of our time his being there.
I think grilling people in an interview is fine, but quite often it crosses the line.
It's for the same reason why I hate Dragon's Den - more often or not they just act like dicks because they can, and it's like.. why bother?
It's for the same reason why I hate Dragon's Den - more often or not they just act like dicks because they can, and it's like.. why bother?
I had to change the channel is some of the meaner moments; I don't think it makes good tv, why not show some more positive moments so they we start to think that any of these people deserved to be there.
On a slightly different note, how did they manage to drag out the interviews from first thing in the morning till it was dark.
On a slightly different note, how did they manage to drag out the interviews from first thing in the morning till it was dark.
you're missing the point. They are not normal interviews intentionally. They are designed to highlight the holes and are a test of pressure. Claude for example didn't seem like that much of a bully when talking to Lord AS about the candidates, in fact he had a lot of good to say about them. He and the rest are just an act.
Joanna tears got the sympatrhy she wanted, but she is a nastier person than Baggs, watch the series back.
I'd go for a pint with Baggs ANY DAY. Joanna? No thanks.
Claude's interview methods are a disgrace, yes, he may give a glowing report at the end of it all, but his angry disposition, not even saying 'good morning/afternoon' or anything like that, proves to me that he is a ....
Well, a word beginning with C.
I'd go for a pint with Baggs ANY DAY. Joanna? No thanks.
Claude's interview methods are a disgrace, yes, he may give a glowing report at the end of it all, but his angry disposition, not even saying 'good morning/afternoon' or anything like that, proves to me that he is a ....
Well, a word beginning with C.
The whole point of the interviews is to antagonise and disect the contestants and see how they react under pressure. They want people who aren't going to get aggressive or rude when dealing with difficult people. It's a good test of the candidates true character. Stella is a good example of someone who conducted herself with dignity no matter what they threw at her.
I've never been to an interview where I'm antagonised in that fashion. And antagonising behaviour is usually against most rules of conduct in a place of work
Smacks of hypocrisy.
Smacks of hypocrisy.
Originally Posted by mary patricia:
“The whole point of the interviews is to antagonise and disect the contestants and see how they react under pressure. They want people who aren't going to get aggressive or rude when dealing with difficult people. It's a good test of the candidates true character. Stella is a good example of someone who conducted herself with dignity no matter what they threw at her.”
“The whole point of the interviews is to antagonise and disect the contestants and see how they react under pressure. They want people who aren't going to get aggressive or rude when dealing with difficult people. It's a good test of the candidates true character. Stella is a good example of someone who conducted herself with dignity no matter what they threw at her.”
Yep.
Jamie's a good example of how not to handle it as well. He just rambled and then smiled nervously.
Chris kept his composure and gave good answers I thought.
I don't think Jo was grilled that badly. Bordan saying she was unprepared was fair enough. Claude actually gave her some positves by saying she was enterprising as well.
I LOVE the interviews, we get to see if they told any porkies 
Watching Stuart get ripped a new one was hilarious, you just knew it had to happen! It didn't do him any harm, he was fine with it on the You're Fired show afterwards, even admitting he probably should have gone the week before anyway
Stella did very well as I knew she would, Chris handled himself well too, mostly - except for the revered bit
Jo unfortunately kept stressing her lack of experience which is never a great idea in an interview. And to not have done your homework regarding your potential future boss is embarrassing. She also didn't have a good enough reply to the question she must have known was coming, why she wanted to give up her business and work for someone else again.
Jamie was the only one I felt sorry for, he was so nervous of Margaret. When he said he was a great cog in a wheel and she asked him if he meant any wheel he should have said yes any wheel, meaning that he is a key team player in any team. But he kinda lost it, which I do understand because she's scary
Watching Stuart get ripped a new one was hilarious, you just knew it had to happen! It didn't do him any harm, he was fine with it on the You're Fired show afterwards, even admitting he probably should have gone the week before anyway Stella did very well as I knew she would, Chris handled himself well too, mostly - except for the revered bit
Jo unfortunately kept stressing her lack of experience which is never a great idea in an interview. And to not have done your homework regarding your potential future boss is embarrassing. She also didn't have a good enough reply to the question she must have known was coming, why she wanted to give up her business and work for someone else again.
Jamie was the only one I felt sorry for, he was so nervous of Margaret. When he said he was a great cog in a wheel and she asked him if he meant any wheel he should have said yes any wheel, meaning that he is a key team player in any team. But he kinda lost it, which I do understand because she's scary
Originally Posted by Kyle123:
“I think grilling people in an interview is fine, but quite often it crosses the line.
It's for the same reason why I hate Dragon's Den - more often or not they just act like dicks because they can, and it's like.. why bother?”
“I think grilling people in an interview is fine, but quite often it crosses the line.
It's for the same reason why I hate Dragon's Den - more often or not they just act like dicks because they can, and it's like.. why bother?”
Exactly. There is no need for them to be nasty either - and it's not remotely how business is done. What does the BBC get out of adding cruelty and humiliation to so-called business programmes?
Originally Posted by oulandy:
“It's not just the interviews, either. Sugar is a nasty character as well and all his henchmen interviewers - I mean the three originals, not Margaret - are the most peculiarly repulsive set of people I have ever come across. It really isn't reflective of the real world and has nothing to do with how business is conducted despite its pretension to be a serious business programme.”
“It's not just the interviews, either. Sugar is a nasty character as well and all his henchmen interviewers - I mean the three originals, not Margaret - are the most peculiarly repulsive set of people I have ever come across. It really isn't reflective of the real world and has nothing to do with how business is conducted despite its pretension to be a serious business programme.”
Absolutely .. One thing I dislike about TA is that it givers the wrong impression of what it takes to be successful.
I have enjoyed Stuart massively this series. He truly added to the whole entertainment theme this series and was definitely what you could define as a 'braggart'.
But despite all that, I believed that he was sincere and wanted to prove everything that he bragged about that he could deliver to SA. Whether or not he actually could in reality is despite the point, as even the winner has still got to prove that.
What I thought was despicable was how they ridiculed and humiliated and then the final horrible firing of him.
This guy has probably been the one that's made this show single-handedly entertaining this series, and yet he was treated abominably by SA at the end.
There was absolutely no need to trample him into the ground and practically end any future ambitions and career that he has. Who would employ him now and who will believe in him?
I'm appalled at how he was treated in these interviews and SA's final firing of him.
But despite all that, I believed that he was sincere and wanted to prove everything that he bragged about that he could deliver to SA. Whether or not he actually could in reality is despite the point, as even the winner has still got to prove that.
What I thought was despicable was how they ridiculed and humiliated and then the final horrible firing of him.
This guy has probably been the one that's made this show single-handedly entertaining this series, and yet he was treated abominably by SA at the end.
There was absolutely no need to trample him into the ground and practically end any future ambitions and career that he has. Who would employ him now and who will believe in him?
I'm appalled at how he was treated in these interviews and SA's final firing of him.
Originally Posted by Jepson:
“I find the interviews the least palatable part of the entire procedure. The interviews bully people just because they know they can get away with it. To me they actually come across a lot worse than the candidates as their bullying is a lot worse than anything we see in the tasks.
If anyone carried on like this in r/l people would walk out of the interview and the interviewer could well get a punch in the face for good measure.
Of course, here, the candidates have already invested so much both in time and emotionally that this isn't an option.
Surely there must be others who don't find this sort of spectacle entertaining?”
“I find the interviews the least palatable part of the entire procedure. The interviews bully people just because they know they can get away with it. To me they actually come across a lot worse than the candidates as their bullying is a lot worse than anything we see in the tasks.
If anyone carried on like this in r/l people would walk out of the interview and the interviewer could well get a punch in the face for good measure.
Of course, here, the candidates have already invested so much both in time and emotionally that this isn't an option.
Surely there must be others who don't find this sort of spectacle entertaining?”
on the contrary and after reading some other views on the interview process, I wonder why some people watch the Apprentice! If you think the interviews are a spectacle, then you must think the tasks are? Sorry, I don't understand your logic and the other FM's posts about how hard they feel they interviews are. These candidates, if they didn't want to be subjected to the limelight/stress/hardship of not seeing their families/ etc would not subject themselves to the programme. They do it, because they are not the conventional folk who want a 9-5 job in a supermarket/office/warehouse. I know which one I'd prefer and it certainly would not be to be on the programme. They can't have it all ways and they certainly aren't going to be treated kindly in the interviews.
Originally Posted by Jepson:
“I'm sure a lot of us have had multiple high pressure interviews but I've never had anyone be as rude as some of these muppets are.
An interview should be a cooperative process where employer finds out about employee and, to a certain extent, the reverse.
I wonder how many people would actually want to work for a company who employed people as abrasive as Sugar's cronies like to be.
I'm really hoping Margaret's performance doesn't cause me to re-evaluate my currently very high opinion of her.”
“I'm sure a lot of us have had multiple high pressure interviews but I've never had anyone be as rude as some of these muppets are.
An interview should be a cooperative process where employer finds out about employee and, to a certain extent, the reverse.
I wonder how many people would actually want to work for a company who employed people as abrasive as Sugar's cronies like to be.
I'm really hoping Margaret's performance doesn't cause me to re-evaluate my currently very high opinion of her.”
I had a row with an Interviewer once, when he was obnoxious towards me, over something he didn't know about, but spoke as if he did, and tore a strip off me. There were other Interviewers in same room, but this one man did all the talking, so to keep my voice steady I focused on the other guys who seemed very nice. But the 1st Interviewer wouldn't let up and I lost my temper, had my say, got up to leave, but knew I had blown my chances of a job with them. But I wasn't going to sit there and be insulted by someone up themselves. Some jobs are not really worth it, when you get bullying Interviewers. Oh, one of the other guys spoke up for me, but he was shouted down. Thanked him, then I left still upset.
Reckon some of the Apprentice interviewers were quite mild as Margaret smiled and so did Claud. The Candidates could have done better for themselves though. Stu gave the best value.
Originally Posted by madetomeasure:
“on the contrary and after reading some other views on the interview process, I wonder why some people watch the Apprentice! If you think the interviews are a spectacle, then you must think the tasks are? Sorry, I don't understand your logic and the other FM's posts about how hard they feel they interviews are. These candidates, if they didn't want to be subjected to the limelight/stress/hardship of not seeing their families/ etc would not subject themselves to the programme. They do it, because they are not the conventional folk who want a 9-5 job in a supermarket/office/warehouse. I know which one I'd prefer and it certainly would not be to be on the programme. They can't have it all ways and they certainly aren't going to be treated kindly in the interviews.”
“on the contrary and after reading some other views on the interview process, I wonder why some people watch the Apprentice! If you think the interviews are a spectacle, then you must think the tasks are? Sorry, I don't understand your logic and the other FM's posts about how hard they feel they interviews are. These candidates, if they didn't want to be subjected to the limelight/stress/hardship of not seeing their families/ etc would not subject themselves to the programme. They do it, because they are not the conventional folk who want a 9-5 job in a supermarket/office/warehouse. I know which one I'd prefer and it certainly would not be to be on the programme. They can't have it all ways and they certainly aren't going to be treated kindly in the interviews.”
Stuart, despite his young age, and despite that he was the most humiliated, is the one who looked like he was still smiling and taking everything on board even on YF.
In fact, despite his age, he went into the show full blazes and fought tooth and nail to win a place in the final, which he achieved.
So why suddenly the cruel humiliation and firing at the end of it? Why was Jo and Jamie allowed to leave with some self-respect at getting so far, but he was sent to the gallows like a criminal?
Nah, he might have lied on his CV, but so did others, even if it was slightly.
And there's no way on this earth that former barrowboy SA has never lied in his career to get him where he is today.
Originally Posted by JTW:
“I have enjoyed Stuart massively this series. He truly added to the whole entertainment theme this series and was definitely what you could define as a 'braggart'.
But despite all that, I believed that he was sincere and wanted to prove everything that he bragged about that he could deliver to SA. Whether or not he actually could in reality is despite the point, as even the winner has still got to prove that.
What I thought was despicable was how they ridiculed and humiliated and then the final horrible firing of him.
This guy has probably been the one that's made this show single-handedly entertaining this series, and yet he was treated abominably by SA at the end.
There was absolutely no need to trample him into the ground and practically end any future ambitions and career that he has. Who would employ him now and who will believe in him?
I'm appalled at how he was treated in these interviews and SA's final firing of him.”
“I have enjoyed Stuart massively this series. He truly added to the whole entertainment theme this series and was definitely what you could define as a 'braggart'.
But despite all that, I believed that he was sincere and wanted to prove everything that he bragged about that he could deliver to SA. Whether or not he actually could in reality is despite the point, as even the winner has still got to prove that.
What I thought was despicable was how they ridiculed and humiliated and then the final horrible firing of him.
This guy has probably been the one that's made this show single-handedly entertaining this series, and yet he was treated abominably by SA at the end.
There was absolutely no need to trample him into the ground and practically end any future ambitions and career that he has. Who would employ him now and who will believe in him?
I'm appalled at how he was treated in these interviews and SA's final firing of him.”
You really are turning soft JTW, and I thought that I was soft!
I really cannot believe that you thought that Stuart was sincere! I think that he is the biggest bullshitter that we have ever had on the show. He kept saying how great he was and how better than all the others he was but he never fulfilled his promises. When he was project manager he was awful and Stella could not believe how bad he was either! I always felt that we could not believe a word he said and that most of his CV was made up. He was so useless and being a sales person and he could definitely not lead a team. He was rude and obnoxious so how can you actually feel sorry for him?
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