BBC don't do slick, glossy light entertainment. So it was a typical LWT type show in my eyes.

Strictly Come Dancing?

I get the feeling the ratings won't agree though.

For some reason the figure 5m is sticking out in my head for P&T.

Popstar to Operastar got 4m in that slot. I'd expect something similar.

There's nothing slick about Strictly.

Jersey Shore's ratings are incredible, the show is trash but it's watchable trash. I do think ratings will decline when the likes of Snooki and The Situation eventually leave,

It had been doing really well - around 3.0 or more for much of the summer and early fall. But this is definitely a big leap from what it was getting. It'll be interesting to see how much more it can grow.

I think we need to hope that The Only Way Is Essex never does anything similar, or we will end up with The Only Way is Colchester.

I think TOWiE is similar to the MTV show we are discussing.

Is MTV using Jersey Shore as a lead in for any of its upcoming scripted shows like Skins or Teen Wolf? Will be interesting how Skins as it should really be on HBO, Showtime or Starz.

Also interested how the US version of Being Human and Shameless does. Wonder what other shows will be adapted? Outnumbered and The Inbetweeners have pilots ordered for a US remake.

Agree on the whole, most of the BBC's light entertainment offerings are woeful to the say the least.

Strictly Come Dancing, The Apprentice, Masterchef, Comic Relief, But Yeah ITV1

You're not including Children in Need in the line up?

Those are the standouts for me last night.

Great numbers, particularly Mastermind against EmFm - 5.7m?!


I knew it was obviously NGO's best rating, but was 3.76m really its best ever?

Sure it had low 4m's when it first launched before dropping off - perhaps they were officials?


You have to wonder where they could have put CFWM in the schedules and got it to deliver better than 6.5m. They can't give it a Christmas Day/New Year's Day slot and an EE/Royle Family lead-in every week. But they gave it two massive nights to launch on (admittedly with two weak episodes), which was the best they could do.

Thursday 9pm was the slot Little Britain had for its 2 BBC1 series, admittedly before an increasingly desperate ITV marched its tanks onto the Thursday night lawn with the 8pm soap block. So the 8m+ that LB got is too ambitious now, and of course LB was more consistently funny. Sunday 9pm has potential, but it doesn't really fit in with what BBC1 delivers on Sundays. Friday night is a proven comedy flop night, and no other weeknight slot would deliver better than 6.5m IMO.

A 9pm Saturday slot, between the lotto show and a 9.30 showing of Casualty might be a decent slot, but I still couldn't see it getting more than 6.5m on a regular Saturday.

And of course, it will be getting higher than 6.5m because that is just the overnight. I'm confident now that CFWM can sustain 7m+ for its run, which will be quite a result.

Plus it can help Not Going Out finally find an audience which it, mystifyingly, has never been able to do.

Dented?

It completely thrashed it!


That clearly shows why ITV has wrapped Corrie and EmFm round EE like poison ivy.

The viewers lose out, because it has stopped BBC1 using EE's strength to bring us distinctive, new and interesting programming, except on high days and holidays.

Nice one ITV. The shareholders will be happy though...

I couldn't see Peter Salmon being sacked as BBC1 boss because some mere underling mixed up the order of clips of the Queen on a showreel, but I underestimated the combined power of the Mail, Express and Telegraph.

I also thought Jonathan Ross would survive "he ****ed your granddaughter" but I underestimated the combined forces of the Mail, Express and Telegraph.

If those three decide they want him out, they will hound the BBC until he goes.

I don't approve of the storyline, but it's only a bleedin' soap opera. Murder, rape, incest, shootings after a gunman goes on the rampage in real life, lipstick lesbian schoolgirls getting it on for primetime ITV1 viewers - all fair game it seems, but an admittedly poor taste dead baby-swap storyline causes national outrage.

It wasn't real...


Yes, I'm sure the lipstick lesbian schoolgirls storyline came about only because they exhausted the mine of potential Roy Cropper trainspotting storylines...

Looks like it. Monday 17th January has a new Jersey Shore at 9pm and Skins at 10pm. Not sure if it stays that way for the rest of the run.

Though the Tuesday slot would still be available if BBC1 had the balls to move Holby City. No reason why they should, but...

Besides, BBC1 haven't had many shows that have underperformed thanks to the soap block. The thought processes aren't in place on the channel to be 'distinctive'.


That's Fincham, not Salmon.

I'm sorry, I can't remember reading any posts on it - does anyone have any ratings on Neighbours' performances in Australia since the New Year?

Quite right, sorry!

They should drag Salmon back from his empire building in Salford, and get him running BBC1 again. He was rather good.

lol Neighbours has not returned yet, it was going to return to TEN, but TEN decided against it, so it will return when ELEVEN starts, which is next Tuesday.

Those ratings will be interesting

Makes sense for MTV to use JS as a way to drive viewers to Skins. For Being Human, Syfy has scheduled on Mondays rather than the usual scripted nights of Tuesdays and the 10pm Fridays. Maybe they are hoping to build a new night for scripted shows.

A lot of cable networks seem to put their scripted on a designated nights. For HBO, AMC and A&E its Sundays, for Starz its Friday while USA, TNT and FX have it across the weekdays.

Ah right ok - thanks.

no problem the decesion to delay the shows return was very last minute, a further sign of TEN trying to screw the show over.

From memory, Not Going Out launched to just 2.8m then grew throughout the first series to about 3.6m.

All low ratings but the fact it actually grew its ratings and had a commited following saved it.