take your point, I just have the impression that ITV support their shows better than the BBC. They re-commision most of their entertainment shows whether they've poulled in monster figures or not, and give them a chance to build some momentum. I think they're right to do so because I reckon these sorts of shows benefit from being familiar...

...DOI bad example maybe...

official for w/e 2nd January 2011 up in about 30-45mins

in the meantime

EASTENDERS (MON 1959) 11.1
EASTENDERS (TUE 1930) 11.03
EASTENDERS (THU 1931) 10.61
ERIC AND ERNIE (SAT 2103) 6.65
MORECAMBE AND WISE CHRISTMAS SHOW (SAT 1956) 4.59
ERIC AND ERNIE - BEHIND THE SCENES (SAT 2233) 3.71
FILM: IRON MAN (2008) (SUN 1741) 3.39

no top 30's for ITV1 or Five, which probably explains the lack of ITV1 HD in m/c top 30

but you'll see that for yourselves..... when I put the data live

ciao for now

Hi Ellie

I wonder if its worth having a bet that this third rounder will be the highest F A Cup rating this year

Certainly Dalglish return must have added a few.

good rating for Iron Man on C4.

Presumably because its too late for some and, well I think whether x or y survives in DOI isnt always as important as other reality talent shows.

it's all live on BARB website

enjoy!

That was me being a bit flippant, I was just suggesting that you could hardly commend ITV for doing a family drama when the Beeb has way more, it just so happens none of them are running at the moment. And there's no way Primeval would have been a) shown on Saturday nights or b) commissioned in the first place if it hadn't been for the success of Doctor Who.

There was some discussion about Robin Hood here a few weeks ago, the third series was probably a series too far as everyone left, and it didn't get the Strictly lead-in.


You'd think that, given the format for That Sunday Night Show has been knocking around for ages, first at the Beeb - where it was going to be The Ten Show and Chiles was going to give up Friday's One Show for it - and now at ITV, where Chiles is going to give up Friday's Daybreak for it, it would be something other than the most generic format you've ever seen.

The format was virtually identical to that of Adrian's mate Frank Skinner's Opinionated (another Avalon show) and I don't see the point of it, some of the stuff had already appeared on other shows and there's Graham Norton and Ten O'Clock Live going at the same kind of thing. It'll be interesting in two weeks time when it goes up against Adrian's old show MOTD2.


You say that, but Todd Carty went out really quickly, not like John Sergant or Widdicombe who hung around for ages. Maybe people just really want to annoy the Strictly judges.

But Dancing On Ice baffles me, because people slag off Strictly for having too many contestants, filling the show full of nobodies and going on for too long, yet Dancing On Ice has more contestants than ever before, most of them are complete unknowns and it drags on for about three hours. And it's the most contrived show ever made.

Wow at ITV1 HD reach!! 4.637m, 8.1%

Way up on previous best, 4.022m, 7% and that was way back during the World Cup.

There was always going to be an extra bit of buzz about the first show, and for some reason the 23/1/11 edition is two hours twenty minutes long. Why would that be given they will have dumped 4 by then? Not sure it can increase figures based on that timescale.

Christmas boost probably

plus more people buying (Freeview) HD tellys, me included

Only eight last night, and eight next week.

The 23rd will have twelve.

If you get the chance, try and watch some BBC HD, they desperately need some viewers!!

Doesn't help when EastEnders repeats are pushing first run programmes around the schedule.

Tonight's Episodes, gets bumped to 10.30pm and last week's Sinking of Laconia hasn't even been shown yet!!

Chiles is giving up Friday's Daybreak?

It's like history repeating itself. Except when the BBC asked him to do that (with The One Show) it didn't end so well.

Seen a few ads for The Biggest Loser and it really does baffle me as to why ITV are giving this the best slot of the week-this really is daytime material. Fair enough when ITV promote stuff like Dickinsons Real Deal to primetime and put it against Eastenders, but to give this rubbish a slot capable of much more is astonishing. I would say that Taggart was originally marked for Mondays, but there was a last minute change for some reason. Taggart is going to completely sink tomorrow.

Good point. The thing about the top five reality formats is that there are a base audience of about 8 million which will instantlly make them slot winners irrespective of the standard of the show. I couldnt sit through DOI partly because ice related stuff has never interested me and any vestige of other interest is killed off by the ad breaks and Pips shouting. But quite clearly there is a large minority in audience terms who are automatic devotees -reality is the new variety it seems. Four out of the five formats are ITV shows-maybe the Beeb need look for something a bit more audience friendly than the too arty SYTYCD -I remember around November last year there were alot of promos of SYTYCD advertising the last auditions like mad-I got the impression they had not got all that much interest. And no press coverage that I noticed-doesnt bode well.

Ahh I see. Thanks.

is that offical Adrian isnt doing Fridays Daybreak?

One Born Every Minute on C4 could really benefit. I expect The Biggest Loser will probably be ahead but it should be very close between the two channels at 9pm as I really can't see TBL doing much better than 3m.

Silent Witness will dominate the slot.

As for Taggart, maybe it was moved to Tuesdays to give ITV1+1 a bit of a boost for its launch? It could stand to pick up a fair few ex-Silent Witness viewers at 10pm.

Lol there is a concrete slab full of irony there -all it needs is Chris Evans to present Fridays Daybreak and the cycle will be complete.

This does happen, but I think it ought to be sorted out, by either splitting Saturday/Sunday or airing it at 8.30pm as I've mentioned before.

Forget about the ads for a minute, ITV would prefer to consolidate its existing schedule - instead of seeking short-term interests.

Launching 9pm dramas without ad breaks might mean higher audiences - and less pressure to get above a minimum rating too.

Does anybody know if the ratings for Daybreak are any higher when it is presented by Kate Garraway and Dan Lobb? I can't be the only person who only watches it when it's those two present and switch off for Chiles and Bleakley

His integrity is shot to pieces now as it proves all that hoo-ha when he moved about the 'principle' of removing him from TOS Fridays was complete nonsense. He was money chasing when he went to ITV, pure and simple. :yawn:

Biggest loser is actually a real alternative to the other shows on at 9pm tonight - it's different to all of them. It's massive around the world and is actually pretty inspirational.

It's a risk though, I hope it works.

This ITV1 +1 business is going to run and run on this thread and whilst we get BBC ratings finally ITV 's will come through in about 4 stages. There is going to be more arguments about what should and shouldnt be allowed rather than the ratings themselves. How long before ITV1+1+2. We will have to learn algebra soon