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Old 27-12-2010, 22:10
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Depends on how you look at it...and this isn't just Enders as I've said

Total hours....not much....maybe.....BUT 4 Days out of 5 for gawds sake of prime time..only the news does more days

If it wasn't for digital channels then we'd only be able to look forward to ITV and BBC1 soap zones midweek 7 whilst 9

They all "give up" whilst the others have a soap on....mutually consented vacuum
EastEnders is the soap thats on the least though and what has corrie and Emmerdale got to do with the BBC?

EastEnders takes up 30mins of prime-time (mon,Tues,Thur,Fri)

whille soaps take up 1hr30 on ITV 1 (mondays,Thursdays,Fridays) and 30mins (Tues and Weds)

And whille the soaps are on ITV1 the BBC are showing something thats no soap and usually panorama or watchdog or comedy
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Old 27-12-2010, 22:25
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For what its worth, my parents tell me that they have already given up on Upstairs Downstairs because its set in the city and its not Downton- which is lovely according to my mum.

So there we are. One nil to ITV as far as they are concerned.
Shame as they missed a great episode tonight in my book, very good drama with the added political undertone. I'm not familiar with the original but I am very impressed with this so far.
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Old 27-12-2010, 22:31
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Boxing Day 2010 - Full Roundup
BBC One (inc HD)
17:15 - Songs of Praise: 3.6m (17.1%)
18:00 - Nigel Slater's Christmas Suppers: 3.1m (14.1%)
Nigel Slater's stuff certainly wasnt Boxing Day BBC1 for me-should have been on BBC2.
I think thats proved how out of place Nigel Slater's show was. Beaten by Songs of Praise is rather embarrasing (No disrespect to Songs of Praise but its there for PSB rather than ratings purposes). IMO Christmas Suppers should have been on last week. The Wednesday 2030 Simple Suppers could have been moved to Monday 1930 and the Christmas show could have gone out last Wednesday instead. Surely it would have been more use before Christmas?

To be honest thats not a bad rating for Songs of Praise in itself,
Any other Sunday 3.6m would have been fantastic wouldn't it? Though I suspect the Big Sing format maybe attracts a few extra viewers compared to the normal weekly format

I predict the Songs Of Praise Big Christmas Sing will go out at 1pm before Top Of The Pops.
As for Christmas Day falling on Sunday next year, with two live church services on BBC One that day (Midnight mass) and the 10am service, I think an additional Songs of Praise would be overkill.
I'll agree with pizzatheaction here. There will surely be a morning service on BBC1. So a Songs of Praise so soon after maybe a bit too much. Especially if there is an evening carol service on BBC2 again. So maybe the Big Sing would be ideal for New Years Day next year?

I am not at all religious but we have to recognise there are still a significant number of people (even if only a small minority) for whom religion is still a central part of their lives and these people have to be served.
Although I certainly wouldn't advocate reduced Christian programming, when was the last time there was any significant coverage given to other religions on BBC1 (or BBC2 for that matter)?

It was truly bizarre scheduling to have aired so late, just as BBC1 was gearing up for its evening assault
What did the programme immediately after Songs of Praise get again?

Absolutely. It didn't need Aled Jones's Big Flop in a plum Boxing Day slot as well.
Whats the flop. It won it's slot?
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Old 27-12-2010, 22:31
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Shame as they missed a great episode tonight in my book, very good drama with the added political undertone. I'm not familiar with the original but I am very impressed with this so far.
Fair enough. I will pass that on.
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Old 27-12-2010, 22:48
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If Songs of Praise can move to BBC Two for random sports events, there's no reason why it can't move for Boxing Day. And it should have taken Simple Suppers with it.

As for Christmas Day falling on Sunday next year, with two live church services on BBC One that day (Midnight mass) and the 10am service, I think an additional Songs of Praise would be overkill.
The BBC didn't think so in 2005:

Christmas Day BBC1 2005:

9.00am CBBC The Snow Queen
10.00 Christmas Morning Service: Stranger in the Manger
11.00 Songs of Praise
11.45 Blue Peter's Christmas Presents
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Old 27-12-2010, 23:14
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to break up this EE "discussion" im going to ask a stupid question

Ive been seeing the Glee promo on C4/E4 etc, would I be right in thinking the Britney towards the end (looking like she did in the Hit Me Baby One More Time video) is a guy?
Unless if they have been showing different versions of the advert, then it is definitely female
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Old 27-12-2010, 23:19
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Unless if they have been showing different versions of the advert, then it is definitely female
oh, then why is there something not quite right about how she looks?
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Old 27-12-2010, 23:27
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Old 27-12-2010, 23:29
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Out of Top gear, Miranda, Dragons Den and Masterchef, whats the ratings order (as in most watched)?

In my opinion, they should all go to BBC1 at 1900-2030 slots.
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Old 27-12-2010, 23:35
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17:15 - Songs of Praise: 3.6m (17.1%)
18:00 - Nigel Slater's Christmas Suppers: 3.1m (14.1%)

It's a repeat!!!!! Besides, I would have shifted Songs of Praise to the morning and put Indy Jones at 1800. Then, New Years Day can have the repeat because then NYD consists of 3 premieres - doom for ITV with Harry Potter 3!
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Old 27-12-2010, 23:43
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Out of top gear, miranda, dragons den and masterchef, whats the ratings order (as in most watched)?
Top Gear is easily the most watched programme out of those TV shows, capable of 6m+.

I'd say MasterChef Professionals and Miranda are about the same: MC was getting high 2's for the early stages and 3-3.5m for its latter stages of the competition. Miranda averaged 2.5-3m against Corrie but is capable of high 3's/low 4's when not against Corrie. You could say that with repeats taken into account, Miranda's more popular.

For its latest series, Dragons' Den was getting 2.7/2.8m, although in the past it's had 3.0-3.5m.
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Old 28-12-2010, 00:15
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Hope everyone had a very Merry Christmas.

You'll get this officially confirmed in a few days, but you can expect "South Riding", Andrew Davies' next Costume Drama to transmit at 9pm on Sunday's from Jan 23rd - Feb 6th.

I remember a few people where expecting it a couple of months back..
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Old 28-12-2010, 00:37
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I was expecting South Riding to appear once Zen had finished its run as both are only three episodes. Human Planet on Thursdays is interesting, I would thought Sundays would have been a good slot.
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Old 28-12-2010, 01:47
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Boxing Day 2010 - Full Roundup
BBC One (inc HD)
17:05 - BBC News / Regional News and Weather: 5.3m (26.4%)
17:15 - Songs of Praise: 3.6m (17.1%)
18:00 - Nigel Slater's Christmas Suppers: 3.1m (14.1%)
That's a pretty decent rating by Songs Of Praise standards, and my personal opinion is that it's fair enough to air it late afternoon during Boxing Day/Christmas Sunday/whatever. I wouldn't choose that slot on actual Christmas Day though. The problem for me is what on earth is Nigel Slater doing there at 6pm. The Beeb should have opted for a 6pm movie, which would have been more special (festive) than Countryfile and Antiques Roadshow and would have got in 20mins before ITV's movie premiere.

Looking at the info for Toast on BBC1 Thursday 9pm and it says it is Nigel Slater's memoirs. Although it sounds quite good, hopefully it can pull in more viewers than Simple Suppers has been of late.

BBC One (inc HD)
20:30 - EastEnders: 8.3m (29.7%)

BBC Two
20:00 - Top Gear Special: 6.4m (23.5%) inc HD
Very decent rating for the Top Gear special although judging from Eastenders' share it has dented Eastenders somewhat.

ITV1 (inc HD)
20:30 - Harry Hill's Best of Christmas TV Burp: 3.0m (10.8%)
21:00 - Benidorm: 6.0m (23.0%)
If a Benidorm Christmas special can pull in 6m on Boxing Day (Christmas Sunday) then I think that bodes very well for next year's Christmas special of Downton Abbey to take 9pm Boxing Day. Although I would hope it gets a better lead-in.
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Old 28-12-2010, 08:01
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I was expecting South Riding to appear once Zen had finished its run as both are only three episodes. Human Planet on Thursdays is interesting, I would thought Sundays would have been a good slot.
I wondered where Human Planet was going. Billed in the Radio Times to start in the week 8th-15th January but I couldn't see any slots available on BBC1.

Up against Emmerdale and Corrie? That's a nice bit of complementary scheduling and a great alternative for someone like me who doesn't watch soaps. It also puts less pressure on HP in the ratings. 4m against such competition would be a good figure whereas 4m or less in a 9pm slot (which was what happened to BBC1's last big natural history series) would be poor.
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Old 28-12-2010, 09:19
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Here's something interesting regarding Christmas Day ratings:

Doctor Who vs Emmerdale - Region by Region Breakdown
0.15m (19.3%) vs 0.30m (37.6%) --> Northern Ireland
0.76m (32.9%) vs 0.79m (34.2%) --> Scotland
0.40m (26.1%) vs 0.51m (33.5%) --> Wales
8.8m (40.0%) vs 5.6m (25.3%) --> England (see below)

1.1m (35.2%) vs 1.3m (40.6%) --> North West
0.4m (30.7%) vs 0.5m (37.1%) --> North East
0.9m (36.3%) vs 0.7m (29.7%) --> North
1.1m (39.1%) vs 0.7m (25.4%) --> West Midlands
0.3m (40.5%) vs 0.2m (24.8%) --> South West
1.7m (44.5%) vs 0.9m (23.0%) --> London
0.6m (53.5%) vs 0.2m (20.9%) --> West
0.5m (42.9%) vs 0.2m (19.7%) --> South East
0.7m (45.6%) vs 0.3m (18.9%) --> East
1.0m (48.3%) vs 0.4m (18.0%) --> South
0.5m (51.8%) vs 0.2m (17.6%) --> East Midlands

So Emmerdale performs worse in the South unsurprisingly, Doctor Who performs good everywhere really, but surprisingly not in Northern Ireland or Wales. Wales confuses me, especially considering Who is based there.
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Old 28-12-2010, 10:09
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Also surprising is that Emmerdale performs better in the North West than in Yorkshire, where Emmerdale is actually set!

The fact that Emmerdale is also strong in Scotland may point out how damaging it is when STV opt out of major network programming, assuming that trend also applies to other ITV programmes.
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Old 28-12-2010, 10:17
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oh, then why is there something not quite right about how she looks?


To be honest, she does wear quite a bit of make up
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Old 28-12-2010, 10:17
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Monday 27th December Overnights
BBC One (inc. HD)
20:30- Celebrity Mastermind: 3.16m (11.2%)
21:00- Upstairs Downstairs: 6.66m (24.6%)

BBC Two
18:45- Top Gear: 2.7m (10.3%)
20:00- Three Men Go To Scotland: 3.03m (10.7%)
21:00- Oz and Hugh Raise The Bar: 1.41m (5.2%)
22:00- Charlie Brooker's 2010 Wipe: 1.11m (5.4%)

ITV1 (inc. HD)
20:00- You've Been Framed: 4.14m (14.6%)
21:00- Agatha Christie's Marple: 4.22m (17%)

Channel 4 (inc. HD)
19:15- Porridge: 1.21m (4.4%)
21:00- Lee Evans: Access All Areas: 1.59m (5.9%)
22:00- Lee Evans: Up Close: 1m (4.2%).
22:30- Something About Mary: 642k (4.8%)

Channel 5 (inc. HD)
20:00- There's A Hippo In My House: 540k (1.9%)
21:00- Greatest TV Christmas Moments: 704k (3.3%)

BBC Three
21:00- Most Annoying People 2010: 870k (3.8%)

Film4
21:00- Die Hard 4.0: 1.36m (5.8%)

Primetime Shares
ITV1 (inc. HD): 23.3%
BBC One (inc. HD): 20.9%
BBC Two: 8%
Channel 4 (inc. HD): 4.6% (+1: 0.6%)
Film Four: 3.3%
BBC Three: 2.9%
Channel 5 (inc. HD): 2.4%

Source: DS
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Upstairs Downstairs down 0.88m (-12%) compared to the previous day. I think that drop is okay and against relatively weak competition today, it should remain more stable. I think Marple did okay-ish considering it was up against another period drama. Fantastic rating for Die Hard 4.0 on Film4 - may well be a record high audience for the channel.
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Old 28-12-2010, 10:18
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- Film Four, BBC Three beat Channel 5 in primetime
- Upstairs, Downstairs loses 880,000 of its premiere audience
- Charlie Brooker is BBC Two's least-watched primetime show
- EastEnders tops 10m, beats Coronation Street, which has low shares for a Monday, but both ep sabove 9m - 8.4m for Emmerdale (more in soaps roundup a little later)

Link: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...ds-880000.html
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Old 28-12-2010, 10:54
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It seems UD and Marple dented each other last night, with UD shedding almost 1m and Marple about 0.5m down on what it usually gets. Also on BBC1 Celeb Mastermind seems a bit low, only slightly up on what Panorama gets. I'm sure I remember it getting 4-5m last year, maybe that's in the 7pm slot?

Excellent for the TG repeat up against Casualty & the soaps and another strong 8pm figure.

Ch5 seemed to collapse with its line up of repeats, but there's no point in showing new programmes this week. They may as well have a cheap week of fillers, before all the new factual and US drama starts the week after and I guess it's better than showing wall to wall films.

EDIT: Soaps ratings report is up. Casualty is about 1.5m down on what it should be getting and I can't understand why it didn't air pre Eastenders on Boxing Day, shunting Coountryfile and/or AR out of the way. It would have done much better there-airing it against the soaps on a Monday is a disaster waiting to happen.

Great for Emmerdale & EE, both on par with what they usually get on a Monday, but Corrie is strangely low, both in share and raw figures. Not sure why, because the competition wasn't that different and Casualty didn't seem to dent Emmerdale. Hopefully just a blip and it will pick up again come next week with the big Tracy plot.
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Old 28-12-2010, 10:57
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And yesterday's soap ratings:

BBC One (inc. HD)
19:10- Casualty: 4.04m (14.9%)
20:00- EastEnders: 10.22m (36.1%)

ITV1 (inc. HD)
19:00- Emmerdale: 8.36m (32.1%)
19:30- Coronation Street: 9.71m (35%)
20:30- Coronation Street: 9.75m (34.5%)

Channel 4
18:30- Hollyoaks: 961k (4%)

BBC Three
23:30- EastEnders: 652k (5.2%)

E4
19:00- Hollyoaks: 401k (1.6%)

Source: DS
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Old 28-12-2010, 11:02
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- Film Four, BBC Three beat Channel 5 in primetime
LOL, which is a very rare thing to happen but is anyone surprised? They ran a repeat of a countdown show first shown three nights ago! The Hippo doc was also a repeat from a few months ago. C5 didn't even turn up last night, so where they came in the rankings is neither here nor there I'm afraid. Very predictable that this would become a headline though - when Channel 5 finishes third it rarely gets a mention. And the amount of nights where C5 has beat C4 in primetime is also underreported. Indeed, DS like to add the +1 share to C4 to artificially boost its performance and deny C5 as many wins as possible. I'm not usually a conspiracy theorist, but I'm beginning to wonder?

As for Film4 performing so well - I have no idea why Die Hard 4.0 was such a popular choice with viewers. It was shown on C4 as recently as early October. Very lazy and uninspiring scheduling. Could they not hold back one or two premieres for Film4 every now and again instead of premiering absolutely everything on C4 first? :yawn:

And as for the diabolical BBC Three, well it got lucky with that programme about Annoying People which somehow posts a good result each year and gives them something to repeat endlessly for the next 2 weeks. The ironic thing about the programme is the talking heads are often more annoying than the subjects...
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Old 28-12-2010, 11:06
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LOL, which is a very rare thing to happen but is anyone surprised? They ran a repeat of a countdown show first shown three nights ago! The Hippo doc was also a repeat from a few months ago. C5 didn't even turn up last night, so where they came in the rankings is neither here nor there I'm afraid. Very predictable that this would become a headline though - when Channel 5 finishes third it rarely gets a mention. And the amount of nights where C5 has beat C4 in primetime is also underreported. Indeed, DS like to add the +1 share to C4 to artificially boost its performance and deny C5 as many wins as possible. I'm not usually a conspiracy theorist, but I'm beginning to wonder?

As for Film4 performing so well - I have no idea why Die Hard 4.0 was such a popular choice with viewers. It was shown on C4 as recently as early October. Very lazy and uninspiring scheduling. Could they not hold back one or two premieres for Film4 every now and again instead of premiering absolutely everything on C4 first? :yawn:

And as for the diabolical BBC Three, well it got lucky with that programme about Annoying People which somehow posts a good result each year and gives them something to repeat endlessly for the next 2 weeks. The ironic thing about the programme is the talking heads are often more annoying than the subjects...
It's procedure, we'll be adding +1 to ITV1 when that launches - it wouldn't just be Channel 4.

Don't you think - having +1 is likely to decrease the original broadcast?
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Old 28-12-2010, 11:08
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It seems UD and Marple dented each other last night, with UD shedding almost 1m and Marple about 0.5m down on what it usually gets. Also on BBC1 Celeb Mastermind seems a bit low, only slightly up on what Panorama gets. I'm sure I remember it getting 4-5m last year, maybe that's in the 7pm slot?

Excellent for the TG repeat up against Casualty & the soaps and another strong 8pm figure.

Ch5 seemed to collapse with its line up of repeats, but there's no point in showing new programmes this week. They may as well have a cheap week of fillers, before all the new factual and US drama starts the week after and I guess it's better than showing wall to wall films.

EDIT: Soaps ratings report is up. Casualty is about 1.5m down on what it should be getting and I can't understand why it didn't air pre Eastenders on Boxing Day, shunting Coountryfile and/or AR out of the way. It would have done much better there-airing it against the soaps on a Monday is a disaster waiting to happen.

Great for Emmerdale & EE, both on par with what they usually get on a Monday, but Corrie is strangely low, both in share and raw figures. Not sure why, because the competition wasn't that different and Casualty didn't seem to dent Emmerdale. Hopefully just a blip and it will pick up again come next week with the big Tracy plot.
Casualty rose from 3.8m at 7.15pm-7.30pm to 4.4m by 7.45pm-8pm
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