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OK, its Christmas... but still.
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I disagree. Under the VOSDAL rule overnights now include people who record a programme and watch it by 2am on the same day. +1 channels are just the same as this, as surely they are just another form of same day timeshifting, meaning that they should be included in the overnights. They do indeed take away audiences from the main screening as for instance, when Strictly Come Dancing and The X Factor clashed last year, had ITV1+1 been around viewers who would have watched The X Factor may have opted for Strictly instead as they could catch The X Factor on +1, meaning that the audience for the main screening would be affected. It really is just another form of timeshifting, and ITV and C4 will certainly include them as they will be running exactly the same ads on +1 meaning that +1 will be included, and rightly so.
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I'm guessing it beat five though
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I'm guessing it beat five though
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Yes, except there has been no cut to the programme budget. If anything he claims to have increased it.
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At 7.30pm, Thomas & Friends (on Five) had 235k versus Daybreak's 200k. Embarrassment?
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At 7.30pm, Thomas & Friends (on Five) had 235k versus Daybreak's 200k. Embarrassment?
Obviously that's still poor for Daybreak but I don't think it was beaten by Thomas & Friends. |
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Are you sure? I have Thomas & Friends down as 123k to Daybreak's 325k over the same period (7.30-7.45am).
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Its suggests that Daybreak picked up a lot of viewers from that point onwards......
![]() Five USA should've been scrapped ages ago, creating Five and Fiver - sticking mostly to imports, football and action movies and shock docs (only things capable of 2m+) |
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Are you sure? I have Thomas & Friends down as 123k to Daybreak's 325k (exc. +1) over the same period (7.30-7.45am).
Obviously that's still poor for Daybreak but I don't think it was beaten by Thomas & Friends. ) - mentioning so many ratings in one morning is starting affect me, Sorry.
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I notice the tram effect seems to be wearing off for Coronation St and audiences are down by over a million again. However, Emmerdale seems to be gaining momentum and seems to have added 1.5 million viewers over the past year. I reckon Emmerdale could average out at 7.5 million this year, with its Weatherfield rival holding out at around 9 million.
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It did - on the topic of Five - I wouldn't have changed the name back to Channel 5 personally.
Five USA should've been scrapped ages ago, creating Five and Fiver - sticking mostly to imports, football and action movies and shock docs (only things capable of 2m+) I liked five as an alternative to BBC/ ITV/ Ch4 when they had nothing good on. You knew the next CSI show wasnt far away or failing that there would a similar crime procedural there. Now FFS on the 30th you are going to see a 30 year old Terry & June. And its not the one where June finally snaps and impales Terry on the garden shearers either........ |
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Phew, spared a massive embarrassment there George, albeit only just. Talking of Daybreak, I did enjoy Barry Shitpeas' take last night.Quote:
"When Daybreak came along right, some people like didn't like it, because they are afraid of change and progress and being bored and stuff. But I thought it was really clever, like a TV experiment. Like someone at ITV had gone, what would happen if we took The One Show and hid it somewhere where noone could see it, like first thing in the morning. But the set was a bit depressing though, 'cause there were these big windows where it was often really dark like the sun had just died of leukemia. And so it all felt a bit like you were stuck at the airport at 4 in the morning with some people who just wouldn't shut up, and were just talking, and smiling, and talking, and going on and on, and pointing at stuff, and laughing, and smiling, and talking, and laughing, until you just think, I hate this world, I hate it, I hate this world and that probably isn't the sort of tone they were going for."
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If Thomas does that well they should give him a chat show at 6.25pm........
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Five USA should've been scrapped ages ago, creating Five and Fiver - sticking mostly to imports, football and action movies and shock docs (only things capable of 2m+)
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Going back to Christmas, I think ITV1 might have hit on a formula that while it knows it can never rival BBC One, unless Eastenders and Doctor Who stiff, is providing an alternative. Poirot was the ideal tonic for those who find Jim Royle vile and Little Britain too much and their two soaps are ratings bankers. I think this is the direction ITV will follow for next Christmas, serious drama versus the BBC's comedy and the soaps. After all, Emmerdale narrowed the gap with Doctor Who, though it has to be said people who like Emmerdale generally don't like DW and vice versa.
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If Thomas does that well they should give him a chat show at 6.25pm........
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I watch Channel 5 far more than ITV1 now and think the channel does have a good mix of programmes and at least hasn't turned into a soaps and reality ghetto like ITV1. They are at least trying and have a wide range of programmes from live football to kids shows.
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The Fluffy Club is kids shows, as mentioned earlier, it got 48k (2.9%) so well worth doing.
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Consolidated rating for The Apprentice semi final was 8.77m and for the final it was 8.63m, according to a reliable source.
The timeshift for the final was only 0.3m which is bizarrely low. From a ratings perspective, the BBC should've split the final into two when they submitted their logs to BARB. Like last year, the final ended up with a lower "official" rating than the semi-final. |
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My problem with five's Christmas schedule is that it confuses the brand. With five, its always going to be a niche player, regardless of what the Express/ Star say. Now they seem to be throwing in random shows into the schedule, presumably on the basis that the rights were cheap, regardless of whether it fits with fives brand.
I liked five as an alternative to BBC/ ITV/ Ch4 when they had nothing good on. You knew the next CSI show wasnt far away or failing that there would a similar crime procedural there. Now FFS on the 30th you are going to see a 30 year old Terry & June. And its not the one where June finally snaps and impales Terry on the garden shearers either........ This "random" scheduling you speak of is a couple of nights of nostalgia driven programming over the holiday period. It really is insignificant in the broader sense, but the way some are talking you'd think C5 was to reposition itself as a mainstream rival to GOLD in the new year. |
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I watch Channel 5 far more than ITV1 now and think the channel does have a good mix of programmes and at least hasn't turned into a soaps and reality ghetto like ITV1. They are at least trying and have a wide range of programmes from live football to kids shows.
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I watch Channel 5 far more than ITV1 now and think the channel does have a good mix of programmes and at least hasn't turned into a soaps and reality ghetto like ITV1. They are at least trying and have a wide range of programmes from live football to kids shows.
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Channel 5 during the daytime and mid evening has a good mix of programmes, from Milkshake in the morning, Wright Stuff, soaps, afternoon film, Monkey Life repeat, Studio 5 and then endless CSI repeats. It's not that bad of a channel that some make it out to be.
I watch Channel 5 far more than ITV1. And the new year schedule is looking strong with brand new NCIS, CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, CSI: NY, Cowboy Builders, Emergency Bikers, Eddie Stobart and Ice Road Truckers. Each and every one of them excellent programmes. Plus in daytime The Wright Stuff is being extended by 15 minutes, Vanessa Feltz' new show follows at 11am and Matt Barbet becomes the main presenter of Five News at 5pm. All positive changes, I think it could be a great start to the year for the channel. ![]() The 6:30pm-8:00pm period and underperformance of Home and Away are ongoing issues though. |
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The 6:30pm-8:00pm period and underperformance of Home and Away are ongoing issues though.
No one when the overnight ratings come out look at the 9am ratings, or the 1pm ratings... we look at the evening and night-time ratings. Because that's when primetime is. |
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The sad thing for Casualty is that it has lost any momentum that it gained on SCD night through that scheduling. Its quite strange as in the past there have been big set piece stories over Christmas and tie ups with Holby.This time its practically filler against the soaps having an awkward start time and getting significantly fewer viewers than One Show and Nativity in that slot. Not the most encouraging treatment to me.
Hope Upstairs Downstairs doesnt shed too many more viewers tonight. |
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