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Old 29-12-2010, 12:29
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Good grief, a night to forget for Channel 4. I thought the Haiti doc might at least crack the 1m mark, was it a repeat? Beyond awful for Morgana.
I dont know, I think Hollyoaks did ok
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Old 29-12-2010, 12:31
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I don't think DOI would be a problem. It's not got the same following as XF and the celebs are usually below Z rating.
I think DOI could really struggle. The ratings have already slid in recent series and the celebs are awful.
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Old 29-12-2010, 12:35
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Something no one has pointed out from the data we have available so far (not much) is that E4 beat Channel 4 at 10pm last night with an Inbetweeners repeat:

Channel 4 [inc +1]
22:00 - The Morgana Show: 412,000
22:35 - The Morgana Show: 331,000

E4 [inc +1]
22:00 - The Inbetweeners: 481,000
22:40 - The Inbetweeners: 563,000
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Old 29-12-2010, 12:36
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Not the first time you posted lies George
Who is bitter now?

It seems the BBC are the ones who are going around trying to stir the pot on all this - presumably because they couldnt drum up interest any other way.

If its more important to the BBC execs to get their CV's correct than to make the original programming, I guess that says it all really
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Old 29-12-2010, 12:41
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Who is bitter now?

It seems the BBC are the ones who are going around trying to stir the pot on all this - presumably because they couldnt drum up interest any other way.

If its more important to the BBC execs to get their CV's correct than to make the original programming, I guess that says it all really
George I used the roll eyes emotion because I caught you lying again, I see your response has nothing to do with your original point that ITV turned down U/D which I proved was rubbish.

Stop trying to desperately spin yourself out of another corner.

Are you going to apologise for lying on the thread again?
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Old 29-12-2010, 12:45
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Anyone got the Avatar ratings?
Sky Movies Premiere's ratings are pretty meaningless with multiple showings and Anytime (which arrives on boxes before the first linear showing).

In September, The Hangover had 811,000 viewings on Anytime, but its highest Sky Movies Premiere rating was only 189,000 (on its second showing, not including +1).
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Old 29-12-2010, 13:00
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Sigh, it can be so frustrating at Christmas not getting our full dose of daily ratings.

I'm dying to know what The Best of Candid Camera got on ITV1 last night...
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Old 29-12-2010, 13:06
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Something no one has pointed out from the data we have available so far (not much) is that E4 beat Channel 4 at 10pm last night with an Inbetweeners repeat:

Channel 4 [inc +1]
22:00 - The Morgana Show: 412,000
22:35 - The Morgana Show: 331,000

E4 [inc +1]
22:00 - The Inbetweeners: 481,000
22:40 - The Inbetweeners: 563,000
Now that is embarrassing. So what has been the bigger flop. The Morgana Show or The Stephen K Amos Show?
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Old 29-12-2010, 13:16
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Eastenders 10m / 38.7%
Upstairs Downstairs 6.9m / 26.5%
Holby 6.6m / 25.7%

The Good Life 2.7m / 10.5%

Emmerdale 7.2m / 28.8%
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Old 29-12-2010, 13:18
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Sigh, it can be so frustrating at Christmas not getting our full dose of daily ratings.

I'm dying to know what The Best of Candid Camera got on ITV1 last night...
Aren't we all

Putting you out of your mysery Robbie, it got 3.03m (11.9%)

Quite why DS, the website that makes money from this forum, can't make full, complete and timely artictles for one of its most popular threads is beyond me - then again I guess they're busy browsing the papers / other publications for stories to make up the front page...
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Old 29-12-2010, 13:20
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Eastenders 10m / 38.7%
Upstairs Downstairs 6.9m / 26.5%
Holby 6.6m / 25.7%

The Good Life 2.7m / 10.5%

Emmerdale 7.2m / 28.8%
Thanks dubsj.

Any ratings for Giles and Sue's Good Life show last night and The Goodies?
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Old 29-12-2010, 13:20
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Thanks dubsj and Matt. Surprise there is Holby City, great rating for it. I guess I shouldn't be so surprised considering one of its main characters left last night.
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Old 29-12-2010, 13:21
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Thanks for those dubsj and MattJKR. Holby and EastEnders seem to be on a roll at the moment, whilst the Candid Camera thing did badly, but if I'm honest I thought it'd be in the 2s so it actually did a little better than I expected. Do either of you know how I Am Legend did? Thanks.
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Old 29-12-2010, 13:21
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Putting you out of your mysery Robbie, it got 3.03m (11.9%)
Thanks MattJKR. Low rating but as expected I think.
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Old 29-12-2010, 13:22
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I do wonder what Upstairs Downstairs would do with a better lead in, heck how would it do with that 10 milllion lead in from EastEnders?
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Old 29-12-2010, 13:26
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Tuesday 28th December Overnights
BBC One (inc HD)
12:30- Just William: 1.8m (15.5%)
18:20- BBC News: 6.85m (29.3%)
18:45- BBC Regional News: 7.36m (30.2%)
19:00- Celebrity Mastermind: 4.86m (19.4%)
19:30- EastEnders: 10.0m (38.7%)
20:00- Holby City: 6.55m (25.7%)
21:00- Upstairs Downstairs: 6.88m (26.5%)
22:00- BBC News at Ten: 6.46m (26.7%)
22:15- BBC Regional News: 5.95m (25.7%)

BBC Two
18:30- Miss Potter: 1.69m (6.6%)
20:00- Penelope Keith: Lady of the Manor: 2.37m (9.4%)
20:30- The Good Life: 2.70m (10.5%)
21:00- All About The Good Life: 2.14m (8.2%)
22:00- Sue & Giles Live the Good Life: 1.28m (5.9%)

ITV1 (inc HD)
19:00- Emmerdale: 7.42m (29.6%)
19:30- River Monsters: 2.61m (10.1%)
20:00- Smile: That Was Candid Camera: 3.03m (11.9%)
21:00- I Am Legend: 4.65m (19.1%)

Channel 4 (inc. +1 & HD)
18:00- The Simpsons: 1.84m
18:30- Hollyoaks: 1.12m
19:15- One Born at Christmas: 0.86m
21:00- The Miracle of Haiti: 0.74m
22:00- The Morgana Show: 0.41m
22:35- The Morgana Show: 0.33m

Channel 5 (inc. HD)
19:00- Cowboy Builders: 0.79m (3.1%)
20:00- Greatest Christmas Adverts: 0.81m (3.3%)

E4 (inc. +1)
22:00- The Inbetweeners: 563k

Film4 (inc. +1)
19:00- The Seeker: The Dark is Rising: 342k
21:00- Juno: 331k

More4 (inc. +1)
17:30- The 100 Greatest Musicals: 313k

Sources: Attentional, C4Sales, dubsj, MattJ
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BBC1 had a very good evening. Celebrity Mastermind improved a lot compared to the day before and dented Emmerdale to below 30%, EE was steady, Holby must've posted one of its top 3 ratings of the year and Upstairs Downstairs rebounded and its ratings for the three episodes should be good enough for a recommission. On ITV1, I think I am Legend did well - it was a million better than what I expected but otherwise a pretty bad evening for them.
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Old 29-12-2010, 13:31
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Putting you out of your mysery Robbie, it got 3.03m (11.9%)

Quite why DS, the website that makes money from this forum, can't make full, complete and timely artictles for one of its most popular threads is beyond me - then again I guess they're busy browsing the papers / other publications for stories to make up the front page...
They could be waiting for you to post them!
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Old 29-12-2010, 13:44
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Thanks for those guys - I Am Legend did pretty well, and did significantly better than most Tuesday flopzone stuff. Just goes to show that if they put something decent on in that slot they will rate. Hopefully Taggart will do OK there in the New Year.
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Old 29-12-2010, 14:16
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I think DOI could really struggle. The ratings have already slid in recent series and the celebs are awful.
Maybe time to give the show its P45 then. It doesn't attract the same type of enthusiasm as SCD and the celebs, as you say, are completely Z list. However, ITV still can't give up its love affair with Z list celebs.
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Old 29-12-2010, 14:38
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This is an interesting read. There will always be comparisons between Downton Abbey and Upstairs Downstairs now.

Downton Abbey v Upstairs Downstairs – who won? - Downton Abbey, of course. What it did in a deliciously melodramatic thespian whisper, Upstairs Downstairs did with a cartoon sledgehammer
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Old 29-12-2010, 14:50
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Good grief, a night to forget for Channel 4. I thought the Haiti doc might at least crack the 1m mark, was it a repeat? Beyond awful for Morgana.
A year to forget really - and I think already we can put Famous and Fearless down as one of the flops of 2011. There just seems no method in their madness at the moment with a very weak primetime schedule where they put anything anywhere.

You used to know you could get popular factual on Tuesdays at 9pm, British drama at 10pm, US drama on Mon/Wed at 10pm, comedy on Fridays, property shows at 8pm etc. At the moment it's just all over the place and most new commissions are completely lacking in originality, something which C4 can usually be relied upon for - whilst anything with an ounce of promise seems to be killed off once it gets into the schedulers hands.

Even without considering the impact of the loss of Big Brother it's a huge year for C4 - and if they just stepped back and thought for a few minutes before shoving shows anywhere in the schedule they could quite quickly get back on the road to recovery.

The general consensus about UD is that it was inferior to Downton. But those ratings were healthly. I see UD as being a good choice to replace Lark Rise To Candleford.
I'd agree with that consensus, though I suspect if Downton had followed UD the consensus may be different. I think though the BBC need to get out of this habit of reviving old brands though - Christmas has been pretty much solely remakes and rehashes of old favourites. Indeed has there actually been a single show on BBC1 we could call original?

Re Downton and Upstairs Downstairs, an article in the Telegraph over the bank holiday mentioned that it's looking likely they will be pitched against each other when they both return. Not at the same time (as that would be suicidal for both shows) but in the same season, most likely autumn.

Would UD work well just before Strictly on a saturday, with DA retaining its slot after the X Factor results on a sunday? Assuming ~8 further episodes each are commissioned. Both could start in October and end in mid November, just before IAACGMOOH's run. I know UD at teatime may not work well with Merlin, but I can't see when else it could be shown.
Upstairs Downstairs is clearly not a tea-time drama. At best it could slot into the schedules once Downton finishes and I'm a Celeb begins - this week I think there was six weeks of Sundays to play with there. Really though they're best holding it till the New Year, though with Wild at Heart in the 8.30-9.30pm slot I wonder whether it's best at 8pm, 8.30pm or 9pm, assuming it's on a Sunday.

Jean Marsh in The Guardian:

"I think we were all surprised. The new Upstairs Downstairs had been in the works for about three years. We were trying to sort out ... 40 years of rights, and then [ITV] also started Downton Abbey – in the Edwardian era, which Upstairs Downstairs did. So it might be a coincidence, and I might be the queen of Belgium."
Because Upstairs Downstairs is the only period piece that's ever existed. If she really cared about it she wouldn't have casted herself in it - she's clearly the weak link in the cast.
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Old 29-12-2010, 15:01
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I Am Legend did really well. I suppose it helped that the film isn't all that long.

Interested to see how Forgetting Sarah Marshall does on Saturday. Not a bad film but it finishes a little late.
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Old 29-12-2010, 15:03
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So its official then! Downton Abbey is the period peice to end all period pieces. Presumably there will be no point in commsioning any other different projects from now on.

(Interesting to note that the next series of DA will jump into WW1 with the house as rest home for solidiers)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010...irs-downstairs
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Old 29-12-2010, 15:04
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Because Upstairs Downstairs is the only period piece that's ever existed. If she really cared about it she wouldn't have casted herself in it - she's clearly the weak link in the cast.
Absoltely. And how she's aged since she last worked at 165 in 1930.

The programme would have been better without her and any reference made to the original.
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Old 29-12-2010, 15:08
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I Am Legend did really well. I suppose it helped that the film isn't all that long.

Interested to see how Forgetting Sarah Marshall does on Saturday. Not a bad film but it finishes a little late.
Yes I Am Legend was different enough and short enough to grab a decent holiday audience-and ofcourse it helps that they didnt break it up with news. I tuned it see which ending they used as there is a different one on added to the DVD.
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