Does that include +1 or not?

Just shows how misleading the amount of online buzz can be as when I saw the level of reaction on DS, Twitter & other social networking sites, I was thinking more along the lines of 3-3.5m.

A poor start indeed, and a reality check for a C4 seeking a direct replacement for Celebrity Big Brother. How long before it's back on the air I wonder? I give it another year.

To be fair though, for all the people saying The Games was better, Famous and Fearless will easily beat the 2.03m official rating that the fourth series of that show opened with back in 2006.

The Games however managed to grow its audience to finish on a high of around 2.4m. I think we are unlikely to see this pattern repeat given the overall response to Famous & Fearless.

Except Famous and Fearless is going to be way under the series average for Celebrity Big Brother last year and we're only an episode in.

The series average from Celebrity Big Brother 7 was 3.7 million. It's launch had 6.7 million in the officials. Famous and Fearless could easily be near to 1 million tonight.

2.1m sounds OK to me for F&F - bang on what I expected.

5.1m seems OK-ish on paper for Zen - nothing special though. And if it started with 5.8m but ended with 4.4m to average 5.1m, then BBC1 has a flop on its hands - and a boost for ITV's returning line up next weekend.

Looking back to the 2005 series of The Games, its ratings were extremely erratic.

Fri 2.24m
Sat 2.15m
Sun 3.09m
Mon 3.65m
Tue 2.50m
Wed 2.46m
Thu 2.70m
Fri 3.59m

Source: BARB.

I'm not sure those tell us very much, except it launched similar to F&F last night. Some very good ratings in there for C4 standards but the fluctuation is a bit bizarre.

EDIT: Should also bear in mind that The Games aired at 9pm, an hour later than F&F. Although this was before the days of C4+1.

Completely agree.


I think they would have been expecting more given the scale of the advertising campaign across commercial TV. As I mentioned last night I even saw it being advertised on another channel whilst it was being broadcast, something I don't remember seeing before.

It would be interesting to see a breakdown to see how it faired across the two hours. *hint hint to the people with the data*

what rating did got to dance get last night on SKY 1 ?

Yes, but that was a year into Millionaire's life. The original runs of Millionaire were...
September 1998
Christmas Day 1998 (one episode)
January 1999
March 1999 (for the new schedule with the news moving to 11pm)
September 1999
November 1999 (part of a demented week when they just churned out hundreds of hours of that, Corrie and Emmerdale to screw BBC1)
Christmas 1999 (one episode on Christmas Eve, three on Christmas Day)
January 2000
April 2000
1st May 2000 - one-off celebrity episode
...and then from September 2000 it carried on running every week for several months.


Hmm, unlikely, I don't think this series has been repeated on BBC1 before. And they're nowhere near even writing it, let alone making it. It reminds me of the first series of I'm Alan Partridge which got two repeat runs very quickly, it was first shown on BBC2 in November 1997, then they repeated it in May 1998, then BBC1 repeated it after ten on Sunday nights in January 1999.

The thing about The Games was that someone from C4 boasted in Media Guardian at the time of the first series that no other channel would be so groundbreaking as to strip a completely new series every night, and ITV wrote it to say that they'd already done two series of I'm A Celebrity, stripped every night.

the Fact the new boss of C4 had to make this plea says a lot.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010...am-big-brother

it always struck me as odd,How clean, Wife swap were steady rating pullers for Channel 4 yet even they got axed.When they axed Big brother the show had seen a terrible year no live coverage (apart from the early hours of the morning) really bad Hm's and a terrible house that gave you a headache looking at it.

they said at the time producers would be invited to create new shows to fill in the huge gap BB would leave,but it seems all C4 has done is try and create a new 'live' vibe show and nothing else.

As someone who hated BB I couldn't care less that it was axed.. it was when C4 dumped comedy that I gave up. Ok, much of it was US but they've come up with nothing that matches the strength of Friends/Frasier/Cheers/Father Ted etc as a line up.

C4 used to be my "go-to" channel but now it tends to be Five or E4.

Yes, it really would - most people I know gave up within the first 30 mins although several were flicking back and forth while waiting for the 9pm shows to start.

That said, I opted for Zen.. and dropped out within 20 mins. I don't know if F&F just frayed me so much I couldn't handle anything else but I just went to bed!

From Sky1 Twitter:


Excellent rating there!

He's only on for another two weeks, though.

In his slot last year was Wallander, which had overnights of 5.35m then 5.14m then 4.37m (add a bit more for HD). Lowly figures didn't necessarily boost ITV. In the final week of Wallander then DOI skate off had 1.3m viewers less than the main programme.

Isn't it about the same as what series 1 was getting?

It is an excellent rating for pay TV admittedly but nothing overly special. There seems to be a limit to what Sky1 can achieve and this seems to be more or less it. (even An Idiot Abroad was around the 1.1-1.2m mark in the overnights)

Has rzt got his ratings yet?

Nope, I personally usually only get the ratings in the late-afternooon/evening. Unfortunately no other source has posted yesterday's ratings yet.

Good start to the series for Got To Dance by the way.

I think BBC3 are trying to block out F and F on Ch4 with their films. I wouldn't be surprised if BBC3 would get more Wall-E viewers than BBC1, even MotD beat them! Zen seemed good for a Sunday, but they flopped as the drama went on. Interesting to see if Primeval beat its rating for Saturday. Who is covering for the One show now, with Evans gone.

We watch all Sky's home produced stuff, ad free on Anytime, not off air and according to Sky Media many others do too.


http://www.skymedia.co.uk/Advertising/TV/audience.aspx

I would expect a live talent show like Got To Dance to fall under the category of appointment-to-view television though, not the sort of show people look for in any great number on catchup services.

Also the last claim in that Sky PR is a little dubious, since it's not really a "channel" as such, is it?

Except that Got to Dance will have 4 weeks of double bill audition shows which are not live and thus not strictly appointment-to-view.

That's true, forgot about that.

With Anytime, you know the programmes are going to be there, so you don't have to 'look' for them.

I suppose, it's more a channel than a catchup service as it's passive with nothing to do except press on button and all the programmes are already waiting to be viewed.

It's good of Sky to encourage viewers to watch 92 minutes of uncluttered TV, rather than 120m with seven ad breaks.

Enlighten me, how would that be any different to iPlayer built into Freeview PVRs?

I would agree that Sky are blurring the lines somewhat with their statement - but as we move ahead with technology I imagine more and more often we will hear of "non-linear" channels such as Anytime.

Sky will no doubt view it as a channel as it isn't a case of putting every show that airs on catch-up. They cherry-pick a schedule which they deem fits the "Anytime" brand.

With iPlayer, surely you need to search out the programme and download it. With Anytime it's ready to view. Don't you need a good internet connection* for iPlayer too?

* edit. Don't you need an internet connection for iPlayer?