far be it for me to support stuart, but in the interview with bawden he was incorrect ISP stands for Internet Service provider not protocol and it is licensed by the telecommunications regulators.

So actually he was fired on incorrect evidence, if he holds a licence he is as he stated a fully licensed telecoms operator.


Anyone else feel that this was not very good from a CEO who works in the technology sector such as Viglen?

Indeed!. I was thinking the same thing...Mr Viger-len trying to bullshit a bullshitter

Correct, he confused the P in HTTP with the one in ISP

Agreed - it was an interrogation fail.

He also tripped over 'broadband' in the boardroom.

But didn't Stuart reckon he'd got a mobile phone company called Blue Player (or something like that), when he only had a broadband licence that could be obtained by anyone?

That's management for you. No fcking clue what they're managing, but they still want the quarterly bonus!

Excellent point. I got the distinct impression that Bawden guy was just trying to look clever and that what he exposed wasn't even shocking, it seemed like he was nitpicking about the way Stuart had phrased something, and it was also meant to be an interview.. he didn't let Stu get a word in edgeways! Alan hired a liar once.... so he was really the one full of hot air tonight.

I'm glad I've seen this thread, I thought I must have had it wrong all my life! I'm surprised Stuart didn't correct him! lol

they have just clarified this on the your fired show.

Yeah I know, what a dingbat, poor Stuart.

Funny!


Service Protocol , Viglen , and ISP is all trending on Twitter!

Haha, pointed this out on the main thread! I bet the Apprentice people didn't pick it up on the main show and thats why they let it through? Or do you reckon they knew what they were doing?

Talk about making mountains out of molehills for the sake of TV - that interviewer guy was BSing as much as Stuart. We didn't even see Stuart get a chance to get a word in edgeways. What he out on his CV was no way as big a deal as they were trying to make out.

More likely the P in TCP/IP.

I thought his whole schtick of 'I've talked to The Man and he says you're not all that' was dodgy.

Stuart tried to offer an explanation several times but was shot down in flames and not allowed to give it on the basis that he was not telling the truth. Which is fairly circular.

ISP - Internet service protocol is correct.

Stuart has a licence to provide internet protocols over a telecoms bandwidth. An Internet protocol is a what allows information to be encapsulated across a bandwidth and then carried by whatever medium. They were talking in technological terms relating to the networking model and license issues. As consumers we are not really bothered about the fine details of a broadcast licence.

For the lay person, a company that supplies us with these internet services is an Internet service provider. Also acronymed ISP. The debate in the interview was about the service licence and the allowed communication protocols.

Wrong! ISP stands for Internet Service Provider when used in this context. You (and the Bawden chap) may maybe getting it muddled with TCP/IP where the IP stands for Internet Protocol.

Nah, Protocol.

he was confusing TCP/IP

dispapointed in him, he seemed ok in earlier series, but has made some big mistakes in his interviews on some series...

Splitting hairs over whether it should be protocol or provider isn't relevant to Stuart's downfall. Stuart was wrong to say he was a fully licensed telecoms provider. That would mean he was licensed to provide any kind of telecoms, which he clearly isn't. He has a license to provide broadband services.

He overcooked his CV, and paid the price.

What I found unfair as an interviewer, was Bordan Tkachuk repeatedly interrupting any explanation Stuart might have had until he eventually asks for a simple yes or no answer.

The CV page Bordan's holding, Stuart has contradicted himself with the last paragraph applying for additional licences, so makes you wonder why he exaggerated his company's position a few sentences earlier, saying it was fully licenced?
Perhaps this is why Bordan looked at this situation more closely as to what the real truth was, and why didn't someone pick up on it weeks ago that Stuart's CV isn't making sense ?

And yet on previous series of The Apprentice someone has fabricated a degree and still gone on to win the competition.

I think Stuart is a complete tit but it was a transparent set up job. He was (underservedly) put through last week purely so that he could be shot down in flames this week.

A bit of an exageration! Lee claimed to have been at Thames Valley uni for two years, but had actually dropped out after four months - not in the same league as falsely claiming to have been awarded a degree!

ISP stands for Internet Service Provider.

In 27 years in the IT industry, I have never heard of the term "Internet Service Protocol". Google the term "Internet Service Protocol" - it doesn't exist.

That interviewer really showed himself up - anyone in the IT industry would regard such a statement as a howler from someone pretending they know what they're talking about but clear doesn't.

To me, it's unimaginable that anyone so deeply involved with provision of hardware for networks wouldn't know what ISP stands for - it's such a common term.

So what do you usually go to uni for?