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The Matt Cardle Appreciation Thread (Part 13)
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mattadore
17-12-2010
Well, Boko, I think you're right....things are never clear cut esp where family breakups etc are concerned...I think essentially the story is correct though

Liz - We are true Mattadores and are willing to spend the time examining the evidence to prove/disprove a story (well, we don't really need to examine it because it is seared into our brains!)...but for those not quite as fervent as we, it does taint his image and dent his credibility....alot of people take the view that there is no smoke without fire. ....it all seems rather fishy that this crap is being circulated now.

...and are we now on Thread 13?
clfan
17-12-2010
Originally Posted by mitacond:
“DM has constantly got the things about Matt wrong. ”

ok thank you

no surprises there then

not even going to read it . they will use any excuse to bring him down
MarellaK
17-12-2010
I wouldn't get too upset over this article.

I don't think Matt ever said his parents 'adopted' those boys. I think it was probably more a case of them looking out for them and including them in family events. I had a similar experience with cousins who lost their mum and spent holidays with us. They treat my mum as their own but they had their father......

Matt's little story on the Xtra factor took on a life of its own - it got twisted and elaborated on so now it appears as if Matt has created a tangled web of deceit which was probably never his intention.

Most people know nothing of the original story and doubt too many will venture outdoors tomorrow to buy the DM. The weather is absolutely terrible. I fear Matt's important Saturday sales are going to be affected - but I think he's guaranteed number 1 anyway.
mitacond
17-12-2010
Originally Posted by Queen Maeve:
“So agree Mita, I fel sick that the Mail has gone to these lengths.

We dont need to forensically disect the piece, we know the gist of the real story.”

Thanks QM I find the DM info, seemingly 'tainted' and that is a polite way and cannot disguss it

Oh OH got 4 CDs for me tonight
Queen Maeve
17-12-2010
Originally Posted by SAMofBEV:
“Did she delete it?”

No !!!

I have told her twice.

guess she is young.
mazzamac2
17-12-2010
When's the wedding? This weekend?
liz83
17-12-2010
Originally Posted by bokonon:
“Liz, just to respond I am entirely sympathetic to Matt's situation but I dont think a war will particularly help anybody. It is the sort of thing that people will believe if they dont like him but I think even a casual reader would be pushed to say what great crime he is supposed to have committed.

I found the mundane nastiness of the press's treatment of all the contestants really depressing but I get the impression that it is the sort of thing famous people have to put up with. Its not fair at all and I dont think they should have to put up with it. But sometimes they just do. I think that is particularly true in this instance because there must be all sorts of involved parties who I am sure would prefer the story to just go away.”

Im not sure what you mean by a war? The Mail have made a massive attack on Matt and who he is. People love him because hes straight and honest and down to earth; the Mail have smeared him in the worst way. Hes not an average celeb - hes a kind of embryo celeb and he cant take that kind of attack and suck it up without real damage at this stage IMO. Thats why they need to rebutt it. His parents too have been slandered, Its just horrible.
mazzamac2
17-12-2010
I have a theory ...am I allowed to air it?
It's about children being made wards of court
mattadore
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by MarellaK:
“I wouldn't get too upset over this article.

I don't think Matt ever said his parents 'adopted' those boys. I think it was probably more a case of them looking out for them and including them in family events. I had a similar experience with cousins who lost their mum and spent holidays with us. They treat my mum as their own but they had their father......

Matt's little story on the Xtra factor took on a life of its own - it got twisted and elaborated on so now it appears as if Matt has created a tangled web of deceit which was probably never his intention.

Most people know nothing of the original story and doubt too many will venture outdoors tomorrow to buy the DM. The weather is absolutely terrible. I fear Matt's important Saturday sales are going to be affected - but I think he's guaranteed number 1 anyway.”



Matt said his mum took them in and and it made their family bigger and better
SAMofBEV
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by mazzamac2:
“I have a theory ...am I allowed to air it?
It's about children being made wards of court”

You can for me Mazz
mattadore
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by mazzamac2:
“I have a theory ...am I allowed to air it?”

Yes go on.....coz I've got one too....and I've got another one unconnected to this story but am reluctant to air on lurkey thread
mitacond
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by clfan:
“ok thank you

no surprises there then

not even going to read it . they will use any excuse to bring him down”

I have not read it either and I agree with you that is exactly what they are trying to do.

I will now disreguard their existance they have lost out some are no longer going to buy their paper.
Nessie88
18-12-2010
Whats done is done concerning the DM! We cant change that fact unfortunately...we can express our dissatisfaction however we cannot change it! However I dont think one (horrible) story will sway true Matt fans! We have come to love Matt and obviously we dont want this kind of media attention but its not always going to be positive publicity! Will be interesting to see SYCO's dealing of it!

We need to keep with the positives and look forward to a great winners story 2mrw night!!
And for myself personally...maybe a bottle of wine!!

Chin up guys
xxx
meglosmurmurs
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by mattadore:
“...and are we now on Thread 13?”

13 is my lucky number.

I always have a great time, especially on Friday the 13th.
Hope this luck continues and our combined powers of positivity can destroy the evil schemes of the Daily Fail.
bokonon
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by liz83:
“Im not sure what you mean by a war? The Mail have made a massive attack on Matt and who he is. People love him because hes straight and honest and down to earth; the Mail have smeared him in the worst way. Hes not an average celeb - hes a kind of embryo celeb and he cant take that kind of attack and suck it up without real damage at this stage IMO. Thats why they need to rebutt it. His parents too have been slandered, Its just horrible.”

OK, well we definitely shouldnt have a war about the best tactics for the PR people to adopt.. Basically I agree Matt is a straight up guy and the story is distasteful and horrible.
toastedtoad
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by SAMofBEV:
“From Nightfalls from the previous part

There is no way I am going to bring myself to register with them to do it.”

The last time I commented on there I got censored
mitacond
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by mazzamac2:
“I have a theory ...am I allowed to air it?
It's about children being made wards of court”

Oh if that is so then I understand wow; carry on.


I JUST FEEL FOR MATT MAZZA
SAMofBEV
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by Queen Maeve:
“No !!!

I have told her twice.

guess she is young.”

Its gone off the normal twitter.
bokonon
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by meglosmurmurs:
“13 is my lucky number.

I always have a great time, especially on Friday the 13th.
Hope this luck continues and our combined powers of positivity can destroy the evil schemes of the Daily Fail.”

I quite liked that experimental Blur album 13. It came out just as I more or less entirely gave up listening to the charts. And now I will be listening again on Sunday.
mitacond
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by bokonon:
“OK, well we definitely shouldnt have a war about the best tactics for the PR people to adopt.. Basically I agree Matt is a straight up guy and the story is distasteful and horrible.”

Same here too how dare they
Queen Maeve
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by MarellaK:
“I wouldn't get too upset over this article.

I don't think Matt ever said his parents 'adopted' those boys. I think it was probably more a case of them looking out for them and including them in family events. I had a similar experience with cousins who lost their mum and spent holidays with us. They treat my mum as their own but they had their father......

Matt's little story on the Xtra factor took on a life of its own - it got twisted and elaborated on so now it appears as if Matt has created a tangled web of deceit which was probably never his intention.

Most people know nothing of the original story and doubt too many will venture outdoors tomorrow to buy the DM. The weather is absolutely terrible. I fear Matt's important Saturday sales are going to be affected - but I think he's guaranteed number 1 anyway.”

Exactly !

I dont give a fiddlers about sales. Even if he got a million in week 1 , MF haters would say - 'well his next single will be the challenge, blah blah'
MarellaK
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by mattadore:
“Matt said his mum took them and and it made their family bigger and better”

'Took them' doesn't mean adopted them. The kids were at boarding school. My family was bigger and better during school holidays too.

I'm not saying Matt is lying, I'm saying his story may have been misinterpreted and the press ran with it. Most of what was printed was rubbish, eg. Matt singing at the funeral.
mitacond
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by bokonon:
“I quite liked that experimental Blur album 13. It came out just as I more or less entirely gave up listening to the charts. And now I will be listening again on Sunday.”

Oh I have not heard that one
NaughtyNan
18-12-2010
I'm off to bed to dream on and still revel at the sound of the single I still haven't received my hard cd copy can't wait. night xx
liz83
18-12-2010
Had a thought. Hs anyone been on Pippas FB to see what theyre saying? Theyve known Matt and his family forever. Ive lost their new address though?
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