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judges favoring Kara
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crispih
18-12-2010
how can craig and the judges say Kara's dance was as good as mats - she was weak on tumbles and forgot which way she was going at the end.
Parmesan
18-12-2010
started a thread similar.

they told matt not enough dancing in it, but not Kara.

they told matt it was stop start but not kara.

it stinks
drbolognaise
18-12-2010
Errm, Kara is not top of the board...the judges favour Pamela
rossyrahrah
18-12-2010
All 3 showdances were bloody awful for a variety of reasons.

Is it really worth debating which was the crappiest?
Xassy
18-12-2010
Why do you keep attacking Kara? I agree that Matt was underscored but why attack another contestant to make your point?
thenetworkbabe
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by crispih:
“how can craig and the judges say Kara's dance was as good as mats - she was weak on tumbles and forgot which way she was going at the end.”

Quite easily. Matt had a routine made up of random pointless gymnastics moves and still had errors and timing mistakes. Kara had a properly choregraphed dance routine with more dancing more content and more difficulty and made errors and over ran a bit. He gets 7 for a mess that could never get a 10 even if performed perfectly . She gets 9 for a routine thats stuffed with too much difficulty for even a 10 routine, but which was performed with errors. You do the right sort of routine and you make errors trying for too much difficulty and you get rewarded for it.

Pamela's mark from Craig made sense too. There wasn't anything new or that difficult there, but it flowed and looked like a standard dance. She made fewest errors doing it, but she has to lose 1 when the difficulty level wasn't high anyway.

Its pretty much impossible to mark much better than that with 3 widely different dances and 3 lots of questionable, over ambitious or safe choregraphy. Even if they had 3 better choreographers, there's probably not much time to do better when you have too much to do this week.
danielleh
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by drbolognaise:
“Errm, Kara is not top of the board...the judges favour Pamela ”

To be fair, Pamela's showdance was much better than Kara's
crispih
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by Xassy:
“Why do you keep attacking Kara? I agree that Matt was underscored but why attack another contestant to make your point?”

because I don;'t like her -
dragonrat
18-12-2010
Apparently, Kara injured her arm doing her show dance. (
crispih
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Quite easily. Matt had a routine made up of random pointless gymnastics moves and still had errors and timing mistakes. Kara had a properly choregraphed dance routine with more dancing more content and more difficulty and made errors and over ran a bit. He gets 7 for a mess that could never get a 10 even if performed perfectly . She gets 9 for a routine thats stuffed with too much difficulty for even a 10 routine, but which was performed with errors. You do the right sort of routine and you make errors trying for too much difficulty and you get rewarded for it.

Pamela's mark from Craig made sense too. There wasn't anything new or that difficult there, but it flowed and looked like a standard dance. She made fewest errors doing it, but she has to lose 1 when the difficulty level wasn't high anyway.

Its pretty much impossible to mark much better than that with 3 widely different dances and 3 lots of questionable, over ambitious or safe choregraphy. Even if they had 3 better choreographers, there's probably not much time to do better when you have too much to do this week.”

mats routine was not a mess - it was not to the judges liking - they are against him
Caro07
18-12-2010
What a surprise! Kara overmarked as usual!!!!

In her earlier VT I thought she'd never manage to make her eyes water, so many attempts to get emotional without her voice even breaking. And then sucess! Finally her eyes produced some liquid! At least all that that effort (and stage school) finally got its reward!
crispih
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by dragonrat:
“Apparently, Kara injured her arm doing her show dance. (”


on injury each plus hints of really liking each other, she left out the granny and how she was imspired by someone deceased
Darcyprincess
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by crispih:
“how can craig and the judges say Kara's dance was as good as mats - she was weak on tumbles and forgot which way she was going at the end.”

Because Kara had more up tempo dancing and put so much into it. If the judges are favouring anybody then it is Pamela not Kara!

I was not impressed with Matts own dance with the cap on at all!
MACTOWIN
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by crispih:
“how can craig and the judges say Kara's dance was as good as mats - she was weak on tumbles and forgot which way she was going at the end.”

In your opinion of course.
Darcyprincess
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by dragonrat:
“Apparently, Kara injured her arm doing her show dance. (”

Yes, I thought so, hope that it does not hamper her with the next two dances if she gets through!
BillyBoy7
18-12-2010
Rubbish... The whole thing is set up for Pamela to win.
Putting her on last, which is always an advantage.

But I'm voting for the girl who's been a class above anyone I've ever seen on this show... Kara.
GetMeOuttaHere
18-12-2010
Not from where I'm sitting. Pamela is the one being favoured. Kara got given the kiss of death by one of Brucie's poor jokes.
Abbasolutely 40
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by GetMeOuttaHere:
“Not from where I'm sitting. Pamela is being favoured. Kara got given the kiss of death by one of Brucie's poor jokes.”

I said the very same ,
Darcyprincess
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Quite easily. Matt had a routine made up of random pointless gymnastics moves and still had errors and timing mistakes. Kara had a properly choregraphed dance routine with more dancing more content and more difficulty and made errors and over ran a bit. He gets 7 for a mess that could never get a 10 even if performed perfectly . She gets 9 for a routine thats stuffed with too much difficulty for even a 10 routine, but which was performed with errors. You do the right sort of routine and you make errors trying for too much difficulty and you get rewarded for it.

Pamela's mark from Craig made sense too. There wasn't anything new or that difficult there, but it flowed and looked like a standard dance. She made fewest errors doing it, but she has to lose 1 when the difficulty level wasn't high anyway.

Its pretty much impossible to mark much better than that with 3 widely different dances and 3 lots of questionable, over ambitious or safe choregraphy. Even if they had 3 better choreographers, there's probably not much time to do better when you have too much to do this week.”

Kara definitely had more content and was more up temp with lots of dance moves. I thought that Pamelas was so samey and boring! They definitely played it safe. It really is so obvious that the judges want James to win this year because he has been with them for so long and does not want Artem or the red haired lady to win!
OldLady
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by crispih:
“on injury each plus hints of really liking each other, she left out the granny and how she was imspired by someone deceased”

May I hazard a guess that you don't like Kara very much?
Xassy
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by crispih:
“mats routine was not a mess - it was not to the judges liking - they are against him”

It was a mess, sorry but it was. Kara's wasn't very good either but it pipped Matt's to the post.
Darcyprincess
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by BillyBoy7:
“Rubbish... The whole thing is set up for Pamela to win.
Putting her on last, which is always an advantage.

But I'm voting for the girl who's been a class above anyone I've ever seen on this show... Kara.”

Yes, totally agree, and I have voted over 20 times for Kara already and if she is in the final two I will vote more. She is easily the best all round dancer this year!

Not only is Kara a class above all the others, I also agree that she is probably the best we have had on the show and the passion and charisma that she has with Artem is totally amazing. They are on fire!
Daisy19
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by crispih:
“how can craig and the judges say Kara's dance was as good as mats - she was weak on tumbles and forgot which way she was going at the end.”

:yawn: :yawn: :yawn:
ianswaiting
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by crispih:
“how can craig and the judges say Kara's dance was as good as mats - she was weak on tumbles and forgot which way she was going at the end.”

It isn't a tumbling competition, its a dancing competition. Kara's was more difficult than Matt's and had more dance content. Even despite errors it was better than Matt's (which I thought was awful)
fjif
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by Caro07:
“What a surprise! Kara overmarked as usual!!!!

In her earlier VT I thought she'd never manage to make her eyes water, so many attempts to get emotional without her voice even breaking. And then sucess! Finally her eyes produced some liquid! At least all that that effort (and stage school) finally got its reward!”

I'm totally fed up with the poisonous digs you never miss a chance to aim at Kara, so I'm going to have to admit defeat and put you on ignore.
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