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Jame/Pamela dance just a rip off - I feel cheated!
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Cornchips
18-12-2010
If I had wanted to watch Dirty Dancing then I have it on DVD and let's face it James is no Patrick!! How cliche of him to do that particular song - and he hardly changed the dance at all!!

I feel positively cheated - none of the dances were brilliant tbh but at least the other two were original and different!
hilary.jones
18-12-2010
completely agree Pamelas no different from usual
Karas - she was a bit clumbsy
Mat - nothing special
Suzi-Q
18-12-2010
I disagree. I felt both Matt and Kara's dances were uninspired and relied too heavily on gimmicks - like lifts and gymnastics while Pamela's dance was an actual dance.
kirstylouise666
18-12-2010
Yes, true. Showdances are meant to be original, whether they're good or bad. I'll remember Kara's and Matt's for being awful. Will I remember Pamela's? No. It wasn't any different from her usual dances.
dollface16
18-12-2010
Thought James cheated a bit using the choreography that was in the movie. I say a bit but I mean a lot
gslam2
18-12-2010
THIS THREAD IS JUST A RIP OFF I FEEL CHEATED!!!!

If I had wanted to read a thread moaning about Pamela then there are lots of others on this forum already.
Dragonlady 25
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by Suzi-Q:
“I disagree. I felt both Matt and Kara's dances were uninspired and relied too heavily on gimmicks - like lifts and gymnastics while Pamela's dance was an actual dance.”

How very dare she do a dance as her show dance!!
JoJo4
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by Cornchips:
“If I had wanted to watch Dirty Dancing then I have it on DVD and let's face it James is no Patrick!! How cliche of him to do that particular song - and he hardly changed the dance at all!!

I feel positively cheated - none of the dances were brilliant tbh but at least the other two were original and different!”

When I heard the music I thought 'surely they won't do the lift' - I had no idea they would play it so safe!

Safe and deadly boring - Kara may have missed a few moves but at least they took risks, and Matt took way more.

If P&J win I shall be unimpressed - I don't dispute that Pamela is an accomplished dancer, but their routines have been too safe for a winning couple.
SCDchick
18-12-2010
dont think Karas was awful, but it wasnt good in comparison to her others. I really liked Matts, he can still move better than Pamela, but my faveourite of Mattas was his samba
-Sid-
18-12-2010
I was prepared to hate it, but ended up enjoying what Pamela & James put together.

Maybe I liked it more because of the two horrible Showdances that preceded it.
Cornchips
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by Suzi-Q:
“I disagree. I felt both Matt and Kara's dances were uninspired and relied too heavily on gimmicks - like lifts and gymnastics while Pamela's dance was an actual dance.”

yes - a copy of the dance done in Dirty Dancing. Not an original move in it.
Mystical123
18-12-2010
I think I'm the only one who saw a completely different story to DD in their dance!

It started off with the start of their week 1 waltz, then went into their week 2 salsa (which yes, does have a bit from DD in it) and then as Len said also had some Foxtrot. It was the story of their dancing journey, not the DD story!
brendan's girl
18-12-2010
It was a journey of their dances. The opening bit was from their waltz
Cornchips
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by JoJo4:
“When I heard the music I thought 'surely they won't do the lift' - I had no idea they would play it so safe!

Safe and deadly boring - Kara may have missed a few moves but at least they took risks, and Matt took way more.

If P&J win I shall be unimpressed - I don't dispute that Pamela is an accomplished dancer, but their routines have been too safe for a winning couple.”

Hi hun!! long time no speak.

totally agree with all of that - but then you just knew I would.
gslam2
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by Mystical123:
“I think I'm the only one who saw a completely different story to DD in their dance!

It started off with the start of their week 1 waltz, then went into their week 2 salsa (which yes, does have a bit from DD in it) and then as Len said also had some Foxtrot. It was the story of their dancing journey, not the DD story!”

No - I saw it too, it was a combination of bits from their previous dances. The dance reflected their time on the show - Len pointed that out as well.
tinyangel
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by Cornchips:
“If I had wanted to watch Dirty Dancing then I have it on DVD and let's face it James is no Patrick!! How cliche of him to do that particular song - and he hardly changed the dance at all!!

I feel positively cheated - none of the dances were brilliant tbh but at least the other two were original and different!”

Agree with OP totally and have said as much on several other threads.! And yes I am bitter, and twisted and really disappointed! They had better buck up for the next part!
Cornchips
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by brendan's girl:
“It was a journey of their dances. The opening bit was from their waltz ”

It might have purported to be that - but many of the moves were the same as those from Dirty Dancing - I almost know that routine by heart I have watched it so many times.

If James had wanted to do that then he could have chosen a dozen or so songs to reflect that. They played it safe with the song, the routine and even the bliddy dress to hark back to DD. And clearly if it has to be explained that the dance was about their journey then he must have been doing something wrong as it should have been obvious. Instead we were blinded by another routine. Two routines in one night that hark back to a patrick swayze film!
Mystical123
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by Cornchips:
“yes - a copy of the dance done in Dirty Dancing. Not an original move in it.”

Not true, the start was definitely not DD, it was their waltz!
Dragonlady 25
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by gslam2:
“No - I saw it too, it was a combination of bits from their previous dances. The dance reflected their time on the show - Len pointed that out as well.”

Precisely!!
marvola45
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by -Sid-:
“I was prepared to hate it, but ended up enjoying what Pamela & James put together.

Maybe I liked it more because of the two horrible Showdances that preceded it.”

Same here.

There were a few fixed grins on the faces of some of the pros up in the Tesspit after Matt and Aliona's as well.
olivej
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by Cornchips:
“If I had wanted to watch Dirty Dancing then I have it on DVD and let's face it James is no Patrick!! How cliche of him to do that particular song - and he hardly changed the dance at all!!

I feel positively cheated - none of the dances were brilliant tbh but at least the other two were original and different!”

totally and utterly agree
echelonx
18-12-2010
I just don't understand what people expected from Pamela's showdance. No disrespect to her but James can hardly lift her and do all those fancy tricks like the other two. I thought it was by far the best showdance of the night, the other two were complete messes.
Mystical123
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by Cornchips:
“It might have purported to be that - but many of the moves were the same as those from Dirty Dancing - I almost know that routine by heart I have watched it so many times.

If James had wanted to do that then he could have chosen a dozen or so songs to reflect that. They played it safe with the song, the routine and even the bliddy dress to hark back to DD. And clearly if it has to be explained that the dance was about their journey then he must have been doing something wrong as it should have been obvious. Instead we were blinded by another routine. Two routines in one night that hark back to a patrick swayze film! ”

Please don't assume it wasn't obvious to everyone, I knew what it was as soon as I saw that waltz opening!

And yes, I will concede the salsa bit was straight out of DD, but if you watch week 2 again that exact same choreography was in their original salsa, so it fits the story.

I don't know if it's you I'm debating with on the other thread that's exactly the same as this, but I'm sure Pamela and James didn't choose the dress. I agree it wasn't a great music choice, but it certainly wasn't taken straight from Dirty Dancing. The judges didn't criticise the choreography, and they've shown themselves willing to do so tonight. They had no need to be nice to Pamela as they have no influence.
Cornchips
18-12-2010
Originally Posted by echelonx:
“I just don't understand what people expected from Pamela's showdance. No disrespect to her but James can hardly lift her and do all those fancy tricks like the other two. I thought it was by far the best showdance of the night, the other two were complete messes.”

something original would have been nice. I didn't expect lifts all over the place but I did expect something I hadn't seen before.
qwerty282
18-12-2010
I felt it was a complete rip off too. and I really hated it. It might be because I despise Dirty Dancing and never get why everyone love's it so much. I just wanted some new choreography, something a bit different. Also, didn't Brendan and Natasha do a similar showdance in the first series?
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